Read in afew different threads that there are quite a few mcf forumers like myself who are looking to get an MPV soon.. Starting this thread to share our findings and perhaps there may be enough like minded brothers out there for a group buy, with stronger bargaining powers since unity and numbers are strength : ) First off, anyone seriously considering the following : 1. Toyota Wish 2. Chevy Orlando 3. Mazda Biante 4. Opel Zafira