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My Latio AT felt jerky this morning when I drove to work. Went direct to AD as its near my office. They told me the ignition coil and spark plugs need to be replaced. Est $900. Went to a small motor shop and the uncle who had a nissan diagnostic computer told me only 1 ignition coil need to change. Est $100 plus. However, spares are available only on Monday. Anyone knows if driving with one misfiring coil will damage the engine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PKM3Eo737E Anyone try or already hook up ??

Hi.....any workshop in JB that is good in AC service/repair? Need to change new compressor and coil... TQVM

My car is 6years+ old .Just a few weeks ago detected that the aircon is not as cold before - it's ok when the car is moving and not when it's idle .I can hear the 'hissing' sound whenever the car is stationary . I check the fan - it's running fine and the compressor cuts in regularly . The temperature control knobs works fine . So last week went to my usual wksp to diagnose and they suspect it's the cooling coil that is leaking and they top up the refrigerant and ask me to monitor .However as the days passes , i can feel that the aircon is not as cold as the first day when the refrigerant was being top up , so i decided to go to Tomika in alexander village to check. I describe the symptom and finding to the boss and he quoted $880 all in for replacement of the coil and it's a 2 days job.(citing they have to remove the dashboard to get to the cooling coil)As i needed the car daily , I just ask them to top up the refrigerant and I left . Is the price reasonable ? Any recommendation will be greatly appreciated !

Hi guys, My 2009 Fielder's cooling coil is leaking. So I'm looking around for resources and some info. Probably will check with a few shops on monday but was thinking of asking if anyone with the above models have had similar issues and how much was the cost of repair? I've called 2 shops which are opened today and found that this model is more expensive than Toyota Altis which is around $330-$350. I'm probably also going to call up a few stockist to see if I can buy the coil directly but sometimes for such aircon parts it's difficult cos if it's leaking then everyone will be pushing the blame around. so probably will still go to 1 shop and get it all done.

Where to find them in Singapore?

Last night, my 4 year old Latio suddenly vibrated terribly afetr move off from traffic light, scared and called Insurance company immediately to tow to to Tan Chong Motor, today I was informed 3 out of 4 ignition coils were damaged, the last one also degrade, might not last long. For safety and balance, they requested to replace 4 coils together. total cost was 800+, Just wondering, what is the chance that 3 coils spoil at the same time? is it necessary to replace all the 4 coils?

Confirmed that my BMW (316 96model) cooling coil is leaking. After topping up gas, the aircon is cold. After few day, when I on the aircon, smoky particles was blown out and afterthat, not cold anymore. The workshop recommended to use OEM copper coil which is cheaper ~$400+ and more durable (at least 4-5 year no problem) rather the original coil which is aluminium, more ex. ~$1,100, though faster cooling but may leak again in just 2-3 year time. The whole repair work cost ard $750 which inclusive labour + materials (copper type cooling coil, dryer, expansion valve) + 6 month warranty. Is the cost reasonable? Anyone can recommend a good repair workshop and price reasonable?

Hi I expericnced this at low rpm. Car vibrates at low rpm and accelerats with a judder after 2k rpm seems fine. Sent to mechanic and realised one of the ignition cool went dead. I'm driving a Toyota Camry acv40 2007 I still have 3 spare ignition coil that is still of good working condition that we can trade or exchange for fee. Toyota Part Number: 90919-T2005 COIL ASSY, IGNITION Pm me. Thanks.

dear guys, asking on behalf of friend. she got a fit, 2006 model, having problems with ignition coil. was told to replace all 4 rear ignition coils. due to budget constraints. would like to just replace the faulty one, any recommendations to how about doing this

Hi my car air con gas has been leaking and today finally decided to repair it once and for all. I went to a air con work shop at circuit road and was quoted $1200 to replace both the cooling coil and condenser. It is my first time repairing aircon and I was shocked by the price quoted. May I know if this is the industry market place or am I overly paying over the odds? My drive is a Peugeot 308. Look forward to more inputs and sharing of the repair cost by fellow bros. Thanks

was quote $420 to change the cooling coil, reasonable?

Hi everyone May i know which coil over is recommended for (latio 06) My current front stock absorber oil leak and was quoted $ 700 plus to change front absorber only. That why was thinking as well change all 4 to coil over. ANY LOBANG BOI

Dear all, Currently driving a 2007 WRX, front suspension giving way. got knocking sound and increased body roll. My friend 2007 Swift Sport also similar, so both of us are looking at changing to a coil over system. Can anyone recommend any suitable coil-over system and the associated workshops to get it done. Will appreciate if you able to give the specific model or series. Criteria will be: Cornering stability and durability. Both of us do not track. looking for something a tad stiffer and harder than our stock suspension but not to extend that will puke. Budget is around $2k for front and back coil over. hope this is a realistic budget. Tried reading up but seems like there are too many variant and different car model owner got different opinion. So i am zooming it in for WRX and Swift sport. do let us know which will be a good system for our cars.

where to install....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MSD-8252-Bl...=item53dc5c3165 Bought this coil off ebay and finally arrives today. Installation is simply straight forward. Effects is awesome!! I can feel even better low end torque compared to my MAllory coil. 4th gear can go up slope at 30KM/H. My mallory will struggle. Good stuff!

Recently bought a 2nd hand Mallory ignition coil from another MCFer for $50. http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?autoco...mp;product=5505 Good stuff.... My low end performance improved by quite a margin. Previously, my car will feel very sluggish @ 40KM/H on 4th gear. Now no problem. I can shift earlier now. Why waste $$$ on all those expensive VS stuff when a cheap coil will be able to do the same?

My '06 Wish has hit 150,000 km, time for them shocks to be replaced (it's getting a bit "bouncy") I want to go for a set of not too expensive coil-overs. Drop the ride height by maybe 2.5 cm or so (to fill the wheel well a little better, and lower C of G) Car is running on 17' rims with 215 / 50 rubber. Am not a super sporty driver, so don't need anything fancy, just would like to have slightly better handling, I will probably couple it with a rear sway / anti roll bar and a engine bay brace at the same time to stiffen the torisional rigidity a little. Big thing is that I don't want to have a harsh ride - or the FC will fxxk me every day for months on end - and I will never hear the end of it. Any suggestions? And is there anywhere I can do a "pre purhase test" of the coilovers? It is one thing to tell workshop what I want, but another altogether to experience as ride comfort is so very very subjective, and if they get it wrong, I die

hi, one of my room air con fan coil unit has finally up lorry. The blower can't blow anymore. is it possible to just change to a newer fan coil unit because i don't think they have my model which is abt 8 yr ago. any bro here got experience?

Yoz folks.. i need to find tis.. pls help.. For details, pls refer to pdf file attached. 20080626084642751.pdf

My car has been acting funny the past 2 days. On uphill stretch of the expressway, the car will suddenly lose power momentarily a few times. Downhill is ok. Today went test drive with a mechanic, and the car stalled completely. Closer inspection shows a broken ignition coil (there was a crack on the coil cover). The car was towed back to the workshop. Now the workshop tells me that beside having to replace the ignition coil, I should also change the 4 spark plug cables. Can anybody advise me if the spark plug cables should also be changed? Total cost comes close to $600 include ignition coil, cables, spark plugs. I know it is expensive but no choice, the car won't start without replacing the ignition coil.

Capacitor discharge ignition system with inductively extended discharge time A capacitor discharge ignition device for an internal combustion engine includes a booster coil 21 and a transistor 22 for generating a boosted voltage; a circuit 15A for generating a switching signal for the transistor in response to an ignition signal; first and second condensers 7, 8 for charging with the boosted voltage; an ignition coil 10 to whose secondary a spark plug is connected; a thyristor 13 forming a first closed discharge circuit with the first condenser and the ignition coil primary, which is turned on in synchronism with the ignition signal; and an inductor 9 forming a second closed circuit with the second condenser, the ignition coil primary and the thyristor. The discharge energy of the second condenser stored in the inductor is supplied to the ignition coil primary to extend the discharge time at the spark plug. A delay circuit 16 prevents the transistor from turning on during the extended discharge time, thus establishing a third closed inductor discharge path through the booster coil. ============================================= Claims: What is claimed is: 1. An ignition device for an internal combustion engine, comprising: a booster means including a booster coil and a first switching element for generating a boosted voltage from the booster coil; a driving signal generating circuit for forming a driving signal for driving the first switching element in response to an ignition signal; a first and a second condenser for charging with the boosted voltage from the booster means; an ignition coil having a secondary side to which an ignition plug is connected; a second switching element forming a first closed circuit for discharge with the first condenser and a primary side of the ignition coil, said second switching element being turned on in synchronism with the ignition signal; an inductor forming a second closed circuit with the second condenser, the primary side of the ignition coil and the second switching element; a rectifying element connected to the primary side of the ignition coil; wherein voltage is generated in the ignition coil by discharging the first and second condensers therethrough in synchronism with the ignition signal, and a discharge energy of the second condenser stored in the inductor is supplied to the primary side of the ignition coil thereby extending a discharge time at the ignition plug; and a delay means for preventing a turning on of the first switching element during the extended discharge time by outputting a delay pulse in synchronism with the ignition signal to the driving signal generating circuit, thus establishing a third closed circuit for maintaining the extended discharge time through the booster coil, the inductor, the primary side of the ignition coil and the second switching element. 2. The ignition device for an internal combustion engine according to claim 1, further comprising a plurality of cylinders each having an ignition coil, an ignition plug and a second switching element, in which the booster means, the first and the second condensers and the inductor are provided commonly with respect to the respective cylinders. 3. The ignition device for an internal combustion engine according to claim 1 or claim 2, further comprising a current detecting means for detecting a current flowing in the first switching element, wherein the driving signal is interrupted every time a current flowing in the first switching element reaches a predetermined value. ============================================ Description: BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION Field of the Invention This invention relates to a capacitor-discharge-type ignition device for an internal combustion engine which extends the discharge time by using a closed circuit, and particularly to such an ignition device achieving cost reduction and downsizing thereof by reducing the number of parts. Discussion of Background Conveniently, a capacitor-discharge-type ignition device for an internal combustion engine (CDI) generates discharge in an ignition plug by charging a previously-boosted voltage in a condenser, and by discharging the boosted voltage to the primary side of an ignition coil from the condenser. In such an ignition device, a closed circuit for maintaining discharge including an inductor is provided in parallel with the primary side of the ignition coil to prevent, especially, a misfire during cold starting, thereby extending the discharge time at the ignition plug (which is an LCDI). FIG. 6 is a construction diagram showing a conventional ignition device for an internal combustion engine composed of an LCDI, wherein reference numeral 1 designates a battery, and numeral 2 designates a booster circuit for boosting an output voltage of the battery 1, including a booster coil 21 and a first switching element, that is, a power transistor 22 for generating a boosted voltage from the booster coil 21 by repetitively flowing and breaking current in the booster coil 21. A numeral 3 designates an ignition signal generating circuit for forming an ignition signal G composed of timing pulses, 4, a trigger circuit for forming a trigger signal T at the fall of the ignition signal G, 5 and 6, diodes connected in parallel with an output terminal of the booster circuit 2 for passing the boosted voltage from the booster circuit 2, 7 and 8, first and second condensers (hereinafter respectively condensers) for individually charging the boosted voltage which passes through the respective diodes 5 and 6, and 9, an inductor interposed between terminals on the charging sides of the respective condensers 7 and 8 for storing a discharge energy of the condenser 8 to extend the discharge time. A numeral 10 designates an ignition coil to the primary side of which the boosted voltage from the respective condensers 7 and 8 is supplied, 11, an ignition plug connected to the secondary side of the ignition coil 10, 12, a diode for checking inverse flow to prevent a current vibration on the primary side of the ignition coil 10, and 13, a second switching element, that is, a thyristor interposed between the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and the battery 1, which is fired by the trigger signal T. A numeral 14 designates a diode interposed between a junction point of the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and the thyristor 13, and a junction point of the condenser 8 and the inductor 9, forming a closed circuit for maintaining discharge with the inductor 9 and the primary side of the ignition coil 10. Furthermore, the condenser 7, the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and the thyristor 13 compose a first closed circuit for discharge, and the condenser 8, the inductor 9, the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and the thyristor 13 compose a second closed circuit for discharge. A numeral 15 designates a driving signal generating circuit for forming a driving signal D to repetitively switch the power transistor 22 on and off in response to the ignition signal G, which re-charges the boosted voltage from the booster circuit 2 to the condensers 7 and 8 after discharge. Next, an explanation will be given of the operation of the conventional ignition device for an internal combustion engine shown in FIG. 6 referring to the waveform diagrams of FIG. 7. Normally, a predetermined boosted voltage is charged in the respective condensers 7 and 8 by the booster circuit 2. In this situation, when the ignition signal G at a predetermined ignition timing is formed by the ignition signal generating circuit 3 in response to a requirement of the internal combustion engine, the trigger signal T is formed by the trigger circuit 4 at the fall of each ignition signal pulse. By this trigger signal, the thyristor 13 is fired. The charged voltage of the condenser 7 is rapidly discharged through the first closed circuit for discharge, that is, the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and the thyristor 13, which generates a high voltage on the second side of the ignition coil 10. Similarly, the charged voltage of the condenser 8 is discharged through the second closed circuit for discharge, that is, the inductor 9, the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and the thyristor 13. The thyristor 13 is turned off when the discharge current from the condensers 7 and 8 is lowered to a conductivity maintaining current thereof or less. At this moment, the discharge energy of the condenser 8 stored in the inductor 9 maintains a current through the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and the diode 14, even after the discharge of the condensers 7 and 8 is finished. Accordingly, a discharge is generated at the ignition plug 11 connected to the secondary side of the ignition coil 10 at the fall of the ignition signal G. Furthermore, the discharge time is extended while the current in the inductor 9 is maintained, thereby performing the required ignition with certainty. For instance, the discharge time of the condenser 7 through the thyristor 30 is about 100 .mu. second, whereas the discharge time of the closed circuit for maintaining discharge is about 1.5 m second. On the other hand, in discharging the condensers 7 and 8, the driving signal generating circuit 15 intermittently forms the driving signal D in synchronism with the fall of the ignition signal G, and switches the power transistor 22 in the booster circuit 2. In this way, an input current to the booster coil 21 synchronized with the driving signal D, is supplied by the battery 1. The boosted voltage is generated from the booster coil 21 during the fall of the respective input currents. The boosted voltage is repetitively charged to the condensers 7 and 8 through the diodes 5 and 6. However, normally, a plurality of cylinders are provided in an internal combustion engine each having an ignition coil 10, an ignition plug and a thyristor 13, which are connected in parallel to the circuit including the condensers 7 and 8 and the inductor 9. In this case, since the diode 14 in the closed circuit for maintaining discharge is commonly utilized, the current for maintaining discharge flows to the ignition coils 10 of all the cylinders. To prevent such a wasteful power consumption of the current for maintaining discharge, it is necessary to interpose a switching element such as a thyristor in place of the diode 14 in the closed circuit for maintaining discharge and to individually provide the switching element for every cylinder. The number of circuit elements thus becomes considerable, and the cost reduction and downsizing can not be achieved. SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION It is an object of the present invention to provide an ignition device for an internal combustion engine dispensing with diodes (or thyristors) in the closed circuit for maintaining discharge, and achieving cost reduction and downsizing. According to an aspect of the present invention, there is provided an ignition device for an internal combustion engine: having a booster means including a booster coil and a first switching element for generating a boosted voltage from the booster coil; a driving signal generating circuit for forming a driving signal for driving the first switching element for boosting in response to an ignition signal; first and second condensers for charging the boosted voltage in response to the booster means; an ignition coil to whose secondary side an ignition plug is connected; a second switching element composing a first closed circuit for discharge with the first condenser and a primary side of the ignition coil which is turned on in synchronism with the ignition signal; an inductor forming a second closed circuit with the second condenser, the primary side of the ignition coil and the second switching element; and a rectifying element connected to the primary side of the ignition coil. Discharge is generated in the ignition coil by discharging a charged voltage of the first and second condensers in synchronism with the ignition signal, and a discharge energy of the second condenser stored in the inductor is supplied to the primary side of the ignition coil thereby extending a time for maintaining discharge at the ignition plug. A delay means prevents the turning on of the first switching element during the time for maintaining discharge by outputting a delay pulse in synchronism with the ignition signal to the driving signal generating circuit, thus establishing a third closed circuit for maintaining discharge through the booster coil, the inductor, the primary side of the ignition coil and the second switching element. According to a second aspect of the present invention, there is provided an ignition device for an internal combustion engine according to the first aspect, further comprising a plurality of cylinders each having an ignition coil, an ignition plug and a second switching element, in which the booster means, the first and the second condensers and the inductor are provided commonly with respect to the respective cylinders. According to a third aspect of the present invention, there is provided an ignition device for an internal combustion engine according to the first or the second aspect, further comprising a current detecting means for detecting a current flowing in the first switching element, wherein the driving signal is broken each time a value of a current flowing in the first switching element reaches a predetermined value. According to the first aspect of the present invention, the first switching element is maintained OFF during the predetermined period for maintaining discharge, and the current from the energy in the inductor flows to the primary side of the ignition coil through the booster coil. Furthermore, according to the second aspect of the present invention, the current for maintaining discharge is supplied to the ignition coil without increasing the number of circuit elements, even for a multi-cylinder engine. Furthermore, according to the third aspect of the present invention, the current flowing in the first switching element is limited thereby achieving the downsizing of the first switching element. BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS FIG. 1 is a construction diagram showing an embodiment of the present invention; FIG. 2 shows waveform diagrams for explaining the operation of the embodiment of the present invention; FIG. 3 is a construction diagram showing another embodiment of the invention; FIG. 4 is a circuit diagram showing another example of a booster circuit utilized in this invention; FIG. 5 is a circuit diagram showing another booster circuit utilized in the invention; FIG. 6 is a construction diagram showing a conventional ignition device for an internal combustion engine; and FIG. 7 shows wave diagrams for explaining the operation of the conventional ignition device for an internal combustion engine. DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE PREFERRED EMBODIMENTS Example 1 An explanation will be given of an embodiment of the present invention referring to the drawings as follows. FIG. 1 is a construction diagram showing an embodiment of the present invention, wherein notations 1 through 13 are the same as before. A notation 15A designates a driving signal generating circuit for forming a driving signal D' based on a delay pulse P and a current signal I (mentioned later), 16, a monostable multivibrator for forming the delay pulse P in synchronism with the rise of the ignition signal G and for inputting it to the driving signal generating circuit 15A, and 17, a current detecting circuit for detecting a current flowing in the power transistor 22, and inputting a current detecting signal I to the driving signal generating circuit 15A. In this case, the monostable multivibrator 16 comprises a delay means for outputting the delay pulse P synchronized with the ignition signal G to the driving signal generating circuit 15A, and for preventing the ON-operation of the power transistor 22 during a time for maintaining discharge. Furthermore, the diode 14 shown in FIG. 6 is removed, and the booster coil 21, the diode 6, the inductor 9, the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and the thyristor 13 form a closed circuit for maintaining or extending the discharge time. Next, an explanation will be given of the operation of the embodiment shown in FIG. 1 referring to the waveform diagrams of FIG. 2. First, as before, when the ignition signal G is formed by the ignition signal generating circuit 3, the trigger circuit 4 forms the trigger signal T which fires the thyristor 13, and the charged voltage of the condensers 7 and 8 is discharged through the primary side of the ignition coil 10 and thyristor 13, thereby generating a discharge at the ignition plug 11. At this moment, the discharge energy of the condenser 8 is stored in the inductor 9, and the current in the inductor 9 flows through the closed circuit for maintaining discharge, that is, the primary side of the ignition coil 10, the thyristor 13, the booster coil 21 and the diode 6, thereby extending the time for maintaining the discharge of the plug 11. Furthermore, the thyristor 13 is not turned off while the current for maintaining discharge flows, since the conductivity maintaining current is provided. On the other hand, it is necessary to flow an input current to the booster coil 21 by the driving signal D' for recharging the boosted voltage to the condensers 7 and 8 after discharge. The monostable multivibrator 16 forms the delay pulse P synchronized with the ignition signal G. The width of the delay pulse P is set to be longer than that of the ignition signal G by a time corresponding to the required time for maintaining discharge. The delayed pulse P is inputted to the driving signal generating circuit 15A, and generates the driving signal D' at the fall of the delayed pulse P. Accordingly, the power transistor 22 is maintained OFF during the time period for maintaining discharge of the ignition plug 11. The current in the inductor 9 keeps flowing to the primary side of the ignition coil 10 through the booster coil 21 without flowing to ground through the power transistor 22 and the current detecting circuit 17. As shown in FIG. 2, the driving signal D' is not generated while the current flows in the secondary side of the ignition coil 10 generating a secondary voltage, and a current for maintaining discharge flows in the booster coil 21. Furthermore, the driving signal generating circuit 15A, when the condensers 7 and 8 are charged by the driving signal D', breaks the driving signal D' every time the current in the power transistor 22 reaches a predetermined value, based on the current detecting signal I obtained by the current detecting circuit 17. In this way, since the value of the input current to the booster coil 21 which is periodically broken is maintained constant, the charging of the condensers 7 and 8 is performed with certainty, and the value of the current flowing in the power transistor 22 is restricted. Accordingly, the power transistor 22 is not destroyed by an overcurrent, and downsizing of the power transistor 22 is achieved. Furthermore, in the above Example, the value of the input current to the booster coil 21 is restricted to a constant value, based on the current detecting signal I from the current detecting circuit 17. However, when a current allowance value of the power transistor 22 is large, a driving signal D' having a predetermined period may be formed without utilizing the current detecting circuit 17. Furthermore, an explanation has been given of the case wherein a single cylinder is driven. However, naturally this invention is applicable to the case wherein a plurality of cylinders are driven which are respectively provided with an ignition coil 10, an ignition plug 11 and a thyristor 13. Example 2 FIG. 3 shows another embodiment of this invention. In this case, the current for maintaining discharge is supplied to the primary sides of the respective ignition coils 10 of multi-cylinders without increasing the number of circuit elements. In FIG. 3, notations E.sub.1 through E.sub.n designate a plurality of cylinders having the same construction, and an ignition signal generating circuit 3A and a trigger circuit 4A respectively form ignition signals G.sub.1 through G.sub.n and trigger signals T.sub.1 through T.sub.n for the respective cylinders E.sub.1 through E.sub.n. The booster circuit 2, the condensers 7 and 8 and the inductor 9 are commonly provided for the respective cylinders E.sub.1 through E.sub.n. In this case, since the current for maintaining discharge flows through the individual thyristors 13 incorporated in the respective cylinders T.sub.1 through T.sub.n, this current is not supplied in parallel to circuits of the other cylinders. Furthermore, the booster circuit 2 is utilized as a booster means, and the booster voltage is generated simply by repetitively supplying and terminating current to the booster coil 21. However, the booster voltage may be generated from a secondary side of a booster transformer by utilizing a DC-DC converter incorporating the booster transformer. For instance, as shown in FIG. 4, it is possible to utilize a DC-DC converter 2A having a common terminal with the positive pole side of the battery 1 instead of the booster circuit 2, as a booster means. In this case, the secondary side of the booster transformer 23 in the DC-DC converter 2A becomes the booster coil 21. The boosted voltage from the booster coil 21 is similarly charged to the condensers 7 and 8 through the diodes 5 and 6 (refer to FIG. 1). Furthermore, as shown in FIG. 5, it is possible to utilize a DC-DC converter 2B as a booster means having a common terminal on the ground side. In this case, the common terminal for forming a reference potential of the thyristor 13 and the condensers 7 and 8 (refer to FIG. 1) is connected to the ground side of the battery 1. http://www.fastcarscoolcars.com/

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