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Siao liao then those with vocation as a sniper can do what huh? Maybe work for LTA's outsourced enforcement agencies catching motorists perhaps? [laugh] From ST Forum: http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/forum-...kplace-20130408 Recognise skills learnt in NS at the workplace Published on Apr 08, 2013 MANY interesting ideas were put forward to change the perception of national service (NS) being a liability rather than an asset ("Getting back that NS feeling"; March 23). The top suggestion should be to recognise the skills acquired by full-time national servicemen during their training. Even the roles of non-combat NSFs as clerks, for example, should not be viewed as a form of compulsory cheap labour. Instead, the IT skills and work experience they acquire during their NS stints should be taken into consideration in the selection of applicants for government scholarships or civil service jobs. This is especially so for those who are recognised by their supervisors for having commendable work attitudes. Similarly, for officers in the public service, the leadership skills they acquire during their training days should be noted when they are being considered for promotion. Simply giving NSmen pay increments is insufficient. By being recognised for their skills, NSmen will view their service as an advantage rather than a burden to be performed without a choice. This is especially so as there are significant disadvantages in devoting two years at the prime of one's life to NS. I hope the upcoming review will be fruitful and yield more positive attitudes towards serving NS. Yeo Boon Eng (Ms)

Well that's an interesting idea.... From ST Forum: http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/forum-...iority-20121129 Recognise NSmen with HDB priority Published on Nov 29, 2012 WHEN Singapore's first-generation leaders adopted the Israeli model of a citizen army in 1966, they ensured that every Singaporean family had access to affordable public housing in the form of Housing Board (HDB) flats. The rationale then was to give every conscript soldier greater motivation to defend our young country by giving him a home and country to protect. In the light of the recent debate over public housing, I would like to suggest that the relevant government ministries such as the Ministry of National Development and the Ministry of Defence work together to adopt a back-to-basics approach to address this public property crunch. Singaporean citizens, especially those who have at least one family member who has served or is currently doing National Service should be given first priority to buy new and resale HDB flats. This way, not only are the needs of affordable public housing for Singaporeans met, it will also ensure that every Singaporean soldier has both a home and a country to defend. Some second-generation permanent residents who have served NS but opted not to take up Singaporean citizenship should also be allowed to buy new and resale HDB flats to recognise their contributions to the defence of our nation. New citizens with male children also should not be left out. Those who have sons eligible for NS soon should be allowed to buy new and resale HDB flats surplus to market requirements. This will ensure that the public housing needs and defence requirements of Singapore are met at one go. Hong Chou Hui

my bro. just bought a 2nd hand Honda Fit from dealer & finance under Hong Leong, wanted to source own insurance cos dealer quote very high, managed to get cheapest from Aviva. then inform dealer then dealer say hong leong not recognise Aviva. is there such a thing?