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Hi, Just saw a ticket in my car wiper today, ticket for parking at double yellow line issued by cisco police. My fault clearly. Do you know what is the penalty (how much) for this offence? I believe no demerit for this. Anyone know a link where all these are described officially? Thanks.

What do you think? http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/penalties-crime-must-reflect-public-opinion-shanmugam Penalties for crime must reflect public opinion: Shanmugam SINGAPORE — How society feels about the punishment meted out in criminal cases has to be something the Government must pay heed to, but this does not equate to bowing to public pressure, said Law Minister K Shanmugam. This is because, if penalties do not reflect the weight of public opinion and people do not find them fair, the law would lose its credibility and would not be enforceable, he added. “You enhance the penalty (for a certain law) to reflect what people feel is the right penalty, what conduct should be more severely punished — that is not bowing down; that is understanding where the weight of public opinion is,” said Mr Shanmugam in an exclusive interview with TODAY last week. He added: “(Paying attention to public expression) is important because these people represent the ground feelings ... Penalties and criminal laws can only be enforced if people believe that they are fair and that certain conduct ought to be made criminal ... Otherwise they lose credibility.” Reviews of laws for a string of offences have been announced by Mr Shanmugam, who is also Minister for Home Affairs, in recent days, including some in high-profile cases that attracted close public attention, and even outcry. For instance, he directed his ministries to relook the sentences for sex offenders such as Joshua Robinson, a mixed martial arts instructor who had sex with two 15-year-olds and showed an obscene film to a six-year-old. The American was sentenced to four years’ jail, which was deemed too light by some — an online petition calling for a harsher sentence has since garnered almost 30,000 signatories. In a Parliament sitting earlier this month, Mr Shanmugam said reviews of the laws relating to the abuse of foreign domestic workers was also being conducted. While he did not cite any specific cases, news of the review came in the wake of a Singaporean couple who starved their maid, causing her weight to plunge from 49kg to 29.5kg in 15 months. The man was sentenced to three weeks’ jail and a S$10,000 fine while his wife was sentenced to three months’ jail. Public outcry over penalties in individual cases do not necessarily lead to a review of the laws, Mr Shanmugam stressed, noting that reviews have been announced by ministries for laws in cases that did not attract any public attention. Drugs, drink-driving, and false and malicious allegations against public officers are some offences that have been flagged recently for review. He said: “Even without public expression, when I see a sentence (and if) I see these needs to be looked at ... (where) I feel need a review, I announce them. And that is our job.” But, he noted: “When there is a reaction to a sentence by the public, as in the Joshua Robinson case, then I think it is important for us as policymakers to sit down and understand why people are upset ... It is important because these people represent the ground feelings — they are mothers, they are sisters, they are people who want their children to be safe.” He added: “But it doesn’t mean automatically you agree with it. You must assess it, whether it is also fair. So, there are two parts to it — one, whether it is fair; two, what does the public believe is right.” In a similar way to how he had urged the public against personal attacks on the High Court judges who recently reduced the sentences of six City Harvest Church leaders for misappropriating church funds, Mr Shanmugam said the announcement of reviews for laws should not be taken as an indictment of the work of the Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC). The Public Prosecutor can only apply the law of the day and it is up to the Government to decide what the laws and penalties ought to be, he noted. “It is the task of the Government to decide what is the appropriate legislative provision. And that is the mixture of ... what is fair, what is right and also where is the weight of public opinion.” A deputy public prosecutor, who declined to be named, had reservations about reviews being announced soon after a case concludes in court. “When the Government says these things, it ties our hands,” he said. A former prosecutor, who wanted to remain anonymous, said that while public perception is a “relevant” concern, it “must not be the overriding consideration”. “Otherwise we may run the risk of undermining the rule of law with mob justice ... In my view, it would help if the AGC engages the public more actively and explains its decisions,” said the lawyer, who is now practising in a private firm. “This way, concerns of bowing to political pressure of public opinion would be allayed to some degree.” Lawyers TODAY interviewed agreed there was nothing wrong with public uproar leading to legislative reviews. Mr Sunil Sudheesan, president of the Association of Criminal Lawyers of Singapore, said: “The Government ultimately is a servant of the people. And if people are legitimately outraged (over a particular court sentence), then it should be of concern to the Government.” He added that the Ministry of Law reviews a whole host of laws, noting “it just happens there has been a number of high profile cases lately”. Legislative reviews are also a “product” of a more vocal and involved citizenry, said Mr Sudheesan. “I hope and trust that the engagement between the authorities and the public carries on for a long time ... The public should continue to speak up.”

Irresponsible motorists to face harsher penalties; new dangerous, careless driving offences to be created https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/irresponsible-motorists-to-face-harsher-penalties-new-dangerous-careless-driving-offences It has begun....

Not stopping at a red light, which is an offence with 12 demerit points, carries increased fines of S$400 for drivers of light vehicles, up from S$200, and S$500 for drivers of heavy vehicles, up from S$230. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/higher-fines-traffic-offences-motorists-pedestrians-cyclists-apr-11275482

Piangz............ But sibei funny too...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyn1NhnQXyA

Hi guys. Been a while. Hope everyone has been doing well. I'm going to be trading in my car with an existing loan for a new car (and taking minimum loan). I was wondering if anyone has managed to get their bank to waive the early settlement penalty (rule 78) if they took up another car loan from the same bank.

aside to the rule78's 20%, is there such practice impost by the loan company in the market? banks? in house? private institutions? TIA

Death Penalty Abolition Forum at Substation on 6th March -- Call for Support Dear friends, The mandatory death penalty in Singapore is an archaic and draconian law that requires review and eventual abolition. To highlight this issue, fellow NUS Law School students will be holding a forum on the mandatory death penalty at the Substation from 2pm this Saturday, 6th March. Renowned lawyer and activist, M Ravi, currently defending death row inmate, Yong Vui Kong, will be providing first-hand insights on why the mandatory death penalty should be abolished and how to call for this change. Please help spread the message around for a clear show of support for the forum. Say No to the MDP. http://forums.vr-zone.com/chit-chatting/57...ll-support.html

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/12/ballboy-helps-china-goalkeeper-save-penalty

hi Reverse from small road to main road wanted to find out whats the penalty for such an offence? thanks

wats the penalty if i want to cancel my car booking? juz signed, now waiting for coe bidding. reason: cng station coming up at my backyard so i can run 100% cng and still keep my guzzler. now trying to read up to find out how much km/kg or km/l of cng i will get and see if it makes $ sense to run cng or go with hybrid.

<_< Singaporeans are already feeding him for life. Drug courier spared death now challenges caning sentence Malaysian drug courier Yong Vui Kong, who was spared the gallows after a string of unsuccessful fights against his death sentence, is now challenging the caning regime in Singapore. Yong, 25, was re-sentenced in November last year to life imprisonment and 15 strokes of the cane. This followed changes to the law which give judges the discretion to impose life terms and caning, instead of the previously mandatory death penalty, for drug couriers who help the authorities in a substantive way. However, Yong filed an appeal last week, asking for his caning sentence to be quashed. His lawyer M Ravi is challenging the constitutionality of caning, in particular the manner in which the punishment is carried out. http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/courts-crime/story/drug-courier-spared-death-now-challenges-caning-sentence-20140428

*BREAKING* Singapore has concluded its death penalty review. Penalty holds but is no longer mandatory for certain drug trafficking and murder offences. Courts can order life imprisonment instead sauce: CNA facebook page.

Yahoo News S$120000 penalty for buyer who cancelled wedding A home buyer who acquired a flat under the HDB's design, build and sell scheme (DBSS) with her fianc

Last night & today, almost rear collided by motorbikes who tried to overtaking, first was a bike with exhaust mod racing along a bend on lane1 at high speed, today was another bike cant wait for cars to exit road on left, die die want to overtake. Come to worse only the bikers will suffer bodily harm not the car owners, money cannot buy back their lives. So do u think anything will change if more stringent demerit penalty is imposed on motorcyclist?

Unfortunately the cubs lost the shootout after holding the Brazilians to 0-0 at full time

Have you guys ever encounter incidents whereby no summon ticket was issued but red letter from HDB informing to pay up offence committed???? I used to think it was neigbouring kids or BO LIAO neighbours trying to be funny by taking away the summon ticket from the windscreens but after hearing a story from a so called witness. He claimed seeing parking wardens putting the summon ticket into the poket after keying the neccessary informations and details of offence together with date/time as such. The thing is , by the time driver received notification from HDB via ANG letter stating the time . date and place of offence...normally it will be weeks later. Unless for drivers who has the habbit of keying into HDB parking site to check on the exisitng summons against his/her own vehicle... btw ANG letter received, dun you think it is hard to recalled what actually happened that particular day???? If you can hardly remember what happened that day, how to make appropiate appeal ????? Of course it is only the witness onesided story,hopfully it isnt true but if it is????? So for the parking warden , wont it be a win win situation???? If driver is lucky enough to keep track of the summon commited everyday on HDB wedsite, good for him/her ...make an appeal then matter settles. If liike most of us who , can say take things for granted...only make appeal upon seeing summon ticket on windscreen...than with according to what witness said, HO SEY liao .... can anyhow summon and put ticket in pocket then receive comission if driver lan lan paid up because cannot recall what happened because thought ticket must have being removed by naugthy kids or bo liao neighbours like myself????? BTW, is it really true that aprking wardens got extra incetive like a comission basis for every ticket issued???? can anyone verify this myth???? Drivers are punished for committing parking offences, kiasu go tempt with coupon and such heavy fine and jail term, what if parking warden commite an offence how????? Wrongfully summon or the above case situation???? Maybe can suggest a point system like licence ??? Commite more than designate offence , warden licence kangtong and cannot appy for the same post after 2 years or so..... No offence , I like many drivers may hated them down the gut but still without them , who the heck will wanna follow law and buy coupons and to ensure safety rules precaution????? However dun you think they (P.wardens) should be penalized too if they commited an error or wrongful summon with intend???? Hmmm .... maybe better this way. 一事同人嘛？？？？ agree???? [rolleyes]

Situation: Bought new car from AD. 5 months down the road, I want to sell the car. Must face what penalty? if its a fine, how much would it be? Thanks.

see news here The stewards have decided so fast to penalize Schummi and stripped off his points. I think the decision is biased as Alonson is a potential contender for the world champion. And why did Mercedes decided against appealing when their interpetation of the rules are quite logical? Again I think its kelong. Mercedes give face to the stewards. If the stewards recognised Mercedes interpretation of the rules, they should at least be fair and not penalize unneccessarily and so quickly. The stewards are again

Anyone know what's the penalty for using HP while driving?

Currently my colleague is engaged with her girlfriend. They have bought a resale 4 room flat, taking the $30k HDB grant. Renovations are on going and they are supposed to register their marriage in Dec. Payments for the flat has started 3 months ago, each paying 50% of the loan. However, both discovered that they are not suitable for each other. Worse still, the girl is now seeing another person and my colleague is distressed. He claims that he will have to pay HDB a large sum of money and be sued breach of contract. He can't sell the house due to min occupation of 5 years. Is there any way out to sell the house, return the grant and lead separate lives without being sued. bankrupt and jailed? They have both seen marriage counsellors and even the professionals feel that they should reconsider their choices. Any one know the exact penalty or have friends who went through the same thing?

My friend got caught just now around 5pm for using a remote to control the fuel needle.. Anyone know wats the Fine like?? he was ask to go back 1 hr later and wait for TP/LTA letter...

IF you hit someone on the road and flee from the scene of the accident, you will get into trouble with the law. But what if you knock down an animal? Well, don't think you can just drive off. Be it a person or an animal, the same law applies. Under the Road Traffic Act, if you are involved in an accident where a person or an animal is injured, you have to stop your vehicle and help the victims. If not, you can face a fine up to $3,000 or be jailed up to a year. For a subsequent conviction, you can be fined up to $5,000 or jailed up to two years. Lawyer Luke Lee told The New Paper: 'Animals are protected under the same law as humans.' And those who injure an animal in a hit-and-run case face the same penalties if the law is violated, he added. Ms Deirdre Moss, executive officer of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA), said: 'Most people, unfortunately, do not think that such cases are important just because (the victim) is an animal.' Student Andrew Teo's dog was one such victim. On 4 Jun, the 23-year-old took his 2-year-old miniature schnauzer, Vodka, for their usual evening walk. At 9.45pm, they were about to cross Choa Chu Kang Crescent when a white van sped towards them. Mr Teo said he was standing on the pavement while Vodka, who was on a leash, was already on the road. On seeing the van, Mr Teo tried to pull the dog back, but Vodka slipped out of his collar and dashed across the road. It was hit by the van and blood oozed from its right ear and nostrils. Mr Teo saw the van had stopped a few metres away and two men came out. Mr Teo said that when they saw him, they quickly got back into the van and allegedly drove off. But he managed to take down its licence plate number. Three passers-by, two of whom are Mr Teo's neighbours, helped him move Vodka onto the pavement. He said: 'By that time, I knew Vodka was dead. His body was intact, but you could feel that his skull had been crushed.' Mr Teo took the dog to its vet to get a death certificate and then went to a police station to make a report. A police spokesman confirmed Mr Teo's report and said they are investigating the accident, which happened between Block 662 and Block 691A at Choa Chu Kang Crescent. The road has no pedestrian crossings or traffic lights, but Mr Teo and other residents said that it has low traffic even during the day. The vet's medical report declared Vodka dead on arrival. It suffered severe trauma to the head and chest. Mr Teo is upset that the van occupants did not stop to help and feels they must take responsibility and be punished accordingly. AWARENESS NEEDED Motorist William Neo, 28, was unaware that the penalty for hit-and-run cases is the same for both humans and animals. The project coordinator feels that motorists need to be better educated on road rules. He said: 'Most people would probably think hitting an animal is much less serious than hitting a person. 'Informing motorists of the consequences would make them think twice about driving off after hitting an animal.' The SPCA said that when pets are injured in road accidents, the owners should alert the SPCA and try to move the animals to the side of the road. But those with little experience in handling animals should not try to pick them up. They should wait for SPCA staff members to arrive, while alerting motorists to slow down and drive cautiously - the traffic police will generally assist in this area. DRIVE CAREFULLY

It has come to my notice that the latest car loans in the market has some forms of penalty cluases for early redemption/settlement. This is in addition to the Rule of 78 in calculating interest rebate when you do an early redemption/settlement, which is effectively already by itself a penalty. It was a big suprise for me as my last loan 2 years ago does not has such clauses. There was a big discussion not too long ago about Rule 78 which is deemed an outdated rule and unfair to consumers and now in additional to Rule 78 there is these penalty clauses. The banks/finance/leasing companies are really capitalising on consumers' habit of changing cars 'frequently'. While most only concern about the interest rate, please do not believe that the lowest interest rate gives you the best deal. The penalty clauses can make a huge difference, it can be in the quantum of hundreds to thousands of dollars difference depending on the clauses, loan amount and when you do an early settlement.

I am sure many bros here have encountered ur cars being vandalised and for some of you, even repeated times. im pretty sure theres an increasing amount of such cases happening but probably due to the nature that these cowards are difficult to trace and due to the lack of incentives or lax penalties that leads to insufficient resources allocated to capturing them. i personally am a victim of repeated vandalism, i've repeated to police but seems to no avail, resprayed my car twice before and now my car is 3 yrs old and its still getting vandalised at my house carpark. Suggestions: 1. Higher fines 2. Repeated offenders should be jailed or even caned(as if vandalism on public property) 3. Incentives for people who report and catches these offenders(etc good citizen award..) 4. Campaign on awareness of vandalism These are some of my personal opinions, hope some of the bros would like to share ur views and opinion here. thx