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I'm beginning this thread so I can continue to discuss matters on a topic that interests me. I know there is a thread with similar content, but it's become a bit toxic, so if the mods don't mind, I'll start one here? Otherwise go ahead and merge. Basically we have an economic crisis on us, and internationally things are not doing well either. But in spite of this, property prices seem to be headed northwards and the agents will want to tell you, they won't drop. But job losses are on the way, and the capital appreciation on property isn't what it used to be and despite what agents try to tout, one must consider all factors rationally, and see if your money is better served elsewhere. Eg a good benchmark will be the 2.5% that CPF offers. But property remains enticing because it takes a lot more effort and investigation to find alternatives and not all Singaporeans are that hardworking or familiar with the investment instruments available. I wonder what the rest think? Cheers

Hi Guys, Just got my tire patched today. Very surprised the price of patching has increased by so much I remember having a simple worm patch at 4-5 dollars a few years back. I was quoted between 8-10 dollars at various shops over the past 1 month I had the puncture Finally had the time to finally do the job, and stopped by at simpang bedok. I was quoted $18 for a patch, but the boss said his is patching from the inside, where the tire is removed from the rim for sticking it with a round pad. Its definitely a safer way of patching, as I've had a bad experience for the worm method. For this price, I should have been roberted, but seriously, what is the market price for this job?

Do you feel that their 95 feels like esso/shell 92? That's why their 95 is cheaper?

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/china-oil-giant-enters-singapore-petrol-station-business Or are they joining the cartel?

Business Times - 16 Jul 2008 CNG car sales race ahead as petrol prices soar Over 800 units sold in past 6 months compared to just 34 for whole of 2007 By SAMUEL EE SALES of CNG cars are continuing to power ahead this year, with the number of such vehicles in the first six months soaring to 804 from a mere 34 for the whole of last year. According to the Land Transport Authority, there were 1,564 bi-fuel cars on Singapore roads as at end-June. June was also the hottest month in the first half of this year for such cars, with an all-time high of 124 units registered. Bi-fuel cars can run on both petrol and CNG (compressed natural gas). Mercedes-Benz is the only car maker that offers a CNG model - the E200 NGT (Natural Gas Technology) - direct from the factory. The rest of the petrol-engined cars here have been retrofitted with gas tanks and injectors so that they can also operate on CNG. As petrol prices soar, more and more buyers of new cars are converting their vehicles to run on CNG, which is less expensive. Apart from lower running costs, such retrofitted cars also attract a green vehicle rebate, currently set at 40 per cent of OMV (open market value). This means its list price will also be lower, thus outweighing the CNG conversion cost, which can range from $3,400 to $4,500, depending on the size of the gas tank installed. But the price of CNG is also rising fast because it is pegged to the price of high sulphur fuel oil (HFSO). Last week, it cost $1.59 per kg at Smart Energy, one of two CNG refuelling stations in Singapore. On Monday, the price rose to $1.73. 'The higher cost of CNG will definitely affect the demand for CNG cars because the price difference compared with petrol is reduced,' says Johnny Harjantho, managing director of Smart Energy. But he says that the mileage gains from CNG versus petrol will continue to make it a popular alternative, 'especially for those who travel a lot'. Mr Harjantho says that on average, a 2.0-litre car can travel about 250km on 18kg of CNG, for a cost per km number of 12.5 cents. For that same distance, the 2.0-litre car will need an average of 27.78 litres of petrol, or 23.4 cents per km using the cheapest fuel grade at $2.102 per litre. One parallel importer also believes the popularity of CNG cars will remain strong. 'Current demand is overwhelming,' he says. 'For every 10 enquiries about new cars, six or seven are for CNG models.' He adds that the waiting time for the installation of a CNG kit used to take two weeks two months ago. 'Now, the queue time is two months,' he notes. 'Look at it this way - one full tank of petrol for a 1.8-litre MPV costs $80 to $90. With CNG, it's about $40 or half the price. So, of course, you will go CNG.'

What do you think? For the coming months, what will the movement be for private properties? Up or down? Stagnant? Asking cos thinking of getting one but duno to wait or buy now... Also, which area is accessible yet affordable? Please contribute. Thanks...

Source: http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080820/tts-...ce-f6a4e2a.html AFP - Wednesday, August 20 SINGAPORE (AFP) - - World oil prices rose in Asian trade Wednesday on fresh supply concerns after key producer Venezuela indicated it could ask OPEC to cut output, dealers said. New York's main contract, light sweet crude for September delivery, rose 56 cents to 115.09 dollars a barrel. The contract had jumped 1.66 dollars to close at 114.53 dollars in New York on Tuesday. Brent North Sea crude for October delivery added 50 cents to 113.75 dollars a barrel after rallying 1.31 dollars to settle at 113.25 Tuesday in London. Venezuela's Energy and Petroleum Minister, Rafael Ramirez, said Tuesday his country will propose production cuts at the next Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) meeting if oil prices continue to fall. The cartel is to meet next month in Vienna. "If there is a trend or dynamic toward lower oil prices, Venezuela will consider the possibility of a cut in production," Ramirez said in remarks released by the ministry. "This is the position that we will take at the next OPEC meeting," he said. Wednesday's price gains were "follow-through from last night's bounce," said Jonathan Kornafel, a director for Asia with energy derivatives trading house Hudson Capital Energy. "I don't think any decision is going to be made but I won't be surprised at the rhetoric and traders are looking at it," he said. Despite the latest price gains, world oil prices are down from all-time highs above 147 dollars in July as weak US economic data raise fears for oil demand and dim investor appetite for commodities. Data released on Tuesday added to signs that demand is slowing in the world's biggest energy consumer, the United States, dealers said. The US Labor Department said wholesale inflation soared to 9.8 percent in July, the fastest rate in 27 years, while the US Commerce Department reported new home construction fell 11 percent to the lowest level in 17 years. "Standing back from all of this to glance at the big picture would certainly seem to endorse the oil market's sharp month-long decline," said John Kilduff, an analyst at MF Global. The US Department of Energy was to release its latest weekly snapshot of energy stockpiles in the country later Wednesday. Oil prices, which broke through the 100-dollar level at the start of 2008, remain well above year-ago levels.

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Wonder if in future when gps erp is up, will OCR properties prices be affected jialat jialat. This is assuming if erp gps starts charging the moment leave house till reach office near town or one frequent central area. Moderator, pardon me if I post in wrong category.

Just wondering, in the context of changing car's color, are there cheaper / more expensive colors? Of course only for standard colors and not talking about special effect paint ( Pearl / Reflex / Iridescent / Satin / etc... ) Or is the $$$ differenc negligible?

I agree, please start with new HDB price slashing by another 40%. Than I say, "You The Man" HDB can stay at current sq/meters but price of 4 & 5 rooms slash ... Yahoo news: Singapore's Home Prices Need to Cool Further: Deputy PM Singapore's longest stretch of property price declines since the global economic crisis may not be sufficient to encourage a relaxation in housing curbs, according to Deputy Prime Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam. Shanmugaratnam, who is also the finance minister, said the government can never get rid of cycles in the real estate market, which it will help cool with housing measures. Shanmugaratnam said: "There is some distance to go in achieving a meaningful correction, after the sharp run-up in prices in recent years. "We can never get rid of cycles in the property market, with the upswings in some years being followed by corrections. Our cooling measures cannot eliminate the cycle, but they aim to temper it. "What this means is avoiding a bubble during the upswing and allowing for a correction in prices subsequently," the minister added. Alan Cheong, senior director of real estate research at Savills in Singapore, told Bloomberg: "The government is signalling that the measures will be in place for a while longer. The curbs may start being rolled back after two to three quarters or maximum in a year." Last week, National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan said it was still not the right time to terminate the government's cooling measures and that there was still room for prices to moderate. Private home prices on the island dropped 0.7% in the three months to September, marking the fourth straight quarter-on-quarter drop, and bringing the slide over the past twelve months to about four percent. Most Expensive City Singapore has become the most expensive city in the world to live in following a rise in house prices after an influx of foreign workers boosted the island state's wealth and demand for homes. According to a February Economist Intelligence Unit report, titled The Worldwide Cost of Living Survey, a strengthening of the Singaporean dollar also pushed the country to pole position as the expansion of the financial industry contributed to the country's wealth. link: https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/singapores-home-prices-cool-further-deputy-pm-112102955--finance.html

Bros... Anyone knows why some car ads the price stated is much higher than the prevailing market price? In fact it's even higher than a new purchase? Is it to try to get higher loan for the buyer? http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=489360&DL=1000 But wouldn't the banks check and know this doesn't make sense? Usually how much margin can Seller's try this tactic? Thx

And what is happening here? Come on Singapore, I am sure we can do better, calling major hypermarkets in Singapore, where are you??? Do I have to start queuing at the causeway?..LOL KUALA LUMPUR: The nationwide price reduction campaign, announced by the Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry, has begun even before its March 1 kickoff date. Major hypermarkets taking part in the campaign are already slashing prices by 30 per cent but have pledged, according to the Star online, that the quality of their food and essential items will not be compromised. Hypermarket Aeon Big launched its “Always Low Prices” campaign on January 16. Mydin Mohamed Holdings, another major hypermarket, will lower the prices of 50 essential items following a decline in operating costs. Tesco Malaysia communications manager Rohazida Mohamed said a total of 134 product lines would see a price drop in line with the campaign. GCH Retail, which owns the Giant hypermarket, has pledged that there would be no compromise on quality under its nationwide price reduction campaign. Hypermarkets and supermarkets aside, restaurants have also jumped on the bandwagon to slash prices. Malaysian Muslim Restaurant Owners Association (Presma) president Noorul Hassan Saul Hameed said that so far 50 of its members have agreed to reduce their prices by at least 5 per cent. More than 6,000 member clinics of the Muslim Doctors Association of Malaysia (Perdim) have offered a 10 per cent discount on medical charges, reports Bernama. Its president Dr. Ahmad Shukri Ismail said the reduction, which began on Monday, would cover treatment, medication and consultation. http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/02/18/nationwide-price-reduction-campaign-before-march-1-kickoff/

Oil prices fell in Asia Wednesday following a three-day rally as dealers were divided on whether the commodity has bottomed out after a plunge of nearly 60% since June, analysts said. US benchmark West Texas Intermediate (WTI) for March delivery fell 94 cents to US$52.11 (RM185.73) while Brent crude for March eased 47 cents to US$57.44 in mid-morning trade. WTI soared US$3.48 to US$53.05 Tuesday, its highest close since December 31, while Brent jumped US$3.16 to US$57.91, its best reading since December 30, as dealers cheered signs that the oil industry is tightening exploration activities to cap a supply glut. Ken Hasegawa, an energy trading manager at Newedge Group in Tokyo, said the crude market was "extremely volatile" after the three-day rally that began Friday saw prices surge nearly 20%. "It has become increasingly difficult to discern the direction of the prices of crude oil, but the fundamentals remain unchanged," Hasegawa told AFP. He added that prices could "fluctuate by increasing up to US$10 and falling up to US$10" in the short term. Deep cuts in capital spending by major oil companies, including new announcements Tuesday by BP and BG Group, had suggested there would be tighter supplies in the future. Last week, The Baker Hughes North America rig count report for the week to January 30 showed a drop of 128 rigs to 1,937. That compared with 2,393 a year ago. Some analysts however remain doubtful that the current oil price rebound will be sustained as supplies still outweigh demand in the immediate term. The oil market has lost more than half its value since June, when crude cost more than US$100 a barrel, largely due to a surge in global reserves boosted by robust US shale oil production. The problem was exacerbated in November after the Opec cartel insisted that it would maintain output levels despite plunging prices. The 12-nation group pumps about 30% of global crude. – AFP, February 4, 2015.

http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/01/10/the-truth-behind-high-oil-prices-in-singapore/

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/asian-stocks-mostly-upbeat-us-retail-sales-084209687--finance.html Since utility prices are pegged to oil, why hasn't PUB lowered the electricity tariffs?

From 2009 to 2010, I studied hawker centres in Singapore while on a Fulbright Fellowship. Before I even arrived, I came across articles suggesting that first-generation hawkers were dying or retiring, but their children were not taking over. These articles focused on the loss of certain foods and did not consider the potential effect on hawker centres. During my research, I concluded that hawker centres were endangered, though everyone I spoke with believed they would always exist. Since 2010, there have been positive signs: The Government has improved stall rental policies, developed a training programme with master chefs and is building the first new hawker centres since 1986. While these actions will help, I do not believe they are enough. Even the Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Vivian Balakrishnan has admitted that while it is easy to build new hawker centres, the "key challenge is to find enough Singaporeans willing to enter this profession, which is a difficult, challenging one". For my research, I interviewed about 100 hawkers at 26 different centres across Singapore. The average age of my interviewees was 50, with a range from 33 to 82. I quickly stopped asking about profits because no one wanted to discuss them. A newspaper article earlier this year ("Hawkers unsure of not-for-profit model"; Jan 13) referred to a man who made only slightly more than $10,000 last year. Based on my research, I suspect such low levels of profit are relatively common. Part of the problem is that hawker food is too cheap. While there has been dismay over price increases, in reality they have not increased significantly in recent years. An article last year ("Serving up a good deal for hawkers"; May 30, 2013) noted that overall, the price of chicken rice has increased a mere 50 cents since 1993. In 20 years, the cost of everything else has risen - fuel, raw ingredients, utilities and so on. It is impossible for hawkers to make decent profit margins if public opinion does not allow them to raise their prices to keep pace. Beyond this financial reality, the reasons people become hawkers are also posing additional challenges for the long-term outlook of hawker centres. The overwhelming majority (69 per cent) of those I interviewed had entered the trade because of family. Only 6 per cent quoted a passion for cooking as their motivation. There was a notable level of dissatisfaction among hawkers, mainly among those who had switched from other careers. I spoke to a 37-year-old engineer who had taken over his father's stall against his father's wishes. When I asked the son what he liked best, he responded: "Actually, I don't like anything." He cited the long hours and resulting loss of a social life as the most difficult aspect. This dissatisfaction is understandable, given that 70 per cent of the hawkers I interviewed worked at least 12 hours per day and 38 per cent of those worked at least 14 hours per day. No one I interviewed worked fewer than nine hours per day. In addition to the long hours and low profit margins, being a hawker involves physically exhausting work in a hot environment. Consequently, it is not seen as a career path for those with higher levels of education. Many of my interviewees did not know what would happen to their stalls in the future, but 32 per cent told me their children would not take over, pointing out that they were better-educated and could therefore get better jobs. If the main reason people become hawkers is to help their families, and that trend is declining as education and corresponding opportunities for better jobs are increasing, where will the next generation of hawkers come from? I'm just an ang moh (Caucasian foreigner) and I can't claim to know what's best for Singapore. But I do know that more action is needed to save hawker centres. And it's not the Government's responsibility to try to save them - it's everyone's. First, the public should accept moderate price increases so that hawkers can make decent profits and have a higher quality of life. If this would make food too expensive for low-income citizens, perhaps the Government could offer them subsidised food cards. Similarly, perhaps the Government could consider offering all hawkers subsidised rental rates. This could make entering the profession more appealing by increasing the potential for profits and the ability to achieve a work-life balance. Others have suggested that raising the profile of hawkers might encourage people to enter the profession. The government could apply for hawker centre culture to be added to Unesco's Intangible Cultural Heritage List. If successful, this designation would significantly raise the profile of hawkers and hawker centres both abroad and at home. Recent television shows such as Wok Stars, in which celebrity chefs Alvin Leung and Willin Low whip into shape a handful of hawker-wannabes, have already attempted to glamorise the hawker profession. However, I would encourage the organisers to offer a prize of free rent at an actual hawker centre, rather than a private food court. If all else fails, serious consideration should be given to allowing foreigners to become hawkers, provided they have completed the training programme. While there is an inherent irony in turning over a cultural institution to foreigners, cooking skills and recipes can be taught. Besides, foreigners already cook in private food centres and coffee shops. Ultimately, whatever path is chosen, hawkers and hawker centres are endangered and should be treated with the respect and acclaim accorded to any other cultural treasure. Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/opinion/more-opinion-stories/story/public-must-accept-rise-hawker-food-prices-20140815

In HK, it costs more to house the dead than the living Jun 4, 2014 11:00am 1 2 0 3 In Hong Kong, it costs more to house the dead than the living. There’s one thing even Hong Kong’s more than 40 billionaires will struggle to buy – a final resting place on their home turf. Land shortages in the late 1970s forced Hong Kong to ban construction of new permanent burial sites, and public cemeteries were ordered to ensure the remains of the deceased be exhumed and cremated after six years to make way for newcomers. The policy has done little to alleviate the grave shortage in a city where more than 40,000 people die each year. Some can get lucky if relatives choose to have the remains of a loved one removed from a public burial site to be cremated, opening the prized permanent space to a lottery system, but plots may only come available every few years. The only other way is if the deceased is a member of a church that has a private graveyard with a plot available, a very rare instance that can cost up to $486,000 (HK$3 million). “In Hong Kong, people cannot buy a final resting place even if they have all the money in the world,” said Hoi Pong Kwok, funeral director at Heung Fok Undertaker. “The government doesn’t just have to settle housing needs for the living. It also needs to address those of the dead.” In land-hungry Hong Kong, where more than 7 million people are packed into just 30 percent of the territory, failure to vacate a plot after six years means bodies will be exhumed by the government, cremated and put in a communal grave. While the funeral policy has resulted in a surge in the number of people being cremated – 90 percent of the city’s dead were cremated in 2013, up from 38 percent in 1975 – cremation is by no means the answer for those seeking a resting place. WAITING GAME Securing a niche in a public columbarium – a drab concrete structure where urns are placed – can take up to five years and there are officially more than 21,800 deceased on the waiting list for a space, which costs more than HK$3,000 ($486). Funeral service providers say there are a further 100,000 jars of remains stored in funeral homes or at funeral companies across the city, some of which are also waiting for plots. Those who can’t stand the wait must pay as much as HK$1 million ($162,021) for a niche about the size of a sheet of A4 paper in a privately owned crematorium. At Lung Shan Temple in Fanling district, a private plot measuring 63 square inches (0.04 square metres) with “the most auspicious position” costs HK$1.8 million ($291,638). With a luxury home in Hong Kong costing roughly HK$151,389 ($24,528) per square metre, that means it’s more expensive to house the dead than the living. “You have the green dragon on the left and the white tiger on the right,” said an agent surnamed Tang, describing the supreme “feng shui” of the high-end niche. “Permanent burial sites are not available any more. We don’t even have enough space for the living,” said Barry Law, sales manager at Fortune Wealth Memorial Park Ltd. In Hong Kong, even death provides little relief from the city’s sky-high property prices. “It’s not easy to afford a piece of land in Hong Kong, even after death,” Kwok said. Source: Reuters - See more at: http://www.tnp.sg/news/hk-it-costs-more-house-dead-living?utm_content=buffer21080&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer#sthash.e79mPlRh.dpuf HUAT ah!!

The Land Transport Authority (LTA) recently announced a 42 percent increase in Certificate of Entitlement (COE) quotas for the May - July period. How do you think COE prices will move in this quarter? http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/article.php?AID=10142

http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring/News/...914-299419.html Opinion: Car prices to head south soon By Christopher Tan At the time of writing, the COE for cars up to 1600cc was at $48,801, and the COE for cars above 1600cc was $70,890. The Open COE, a proxy for the latter, was $70,117. Around the same time last year, they were between $30,000 and $43,000. And as recently as three years ago, the same premiums were mostly around $15,000 or less. With the COE supply staying tight for the rest of the year, the chances of a crash are as far-fetched as you finding a bikini babe on Pluto. The world economy and stock markets are faltering, you say? Well, history has shown that the Singapore car market can be pretty resistant to socio-economic influences. The single biggest determinant of prices has always been the number of entitlement certificates in the system. And the current supply is merely a quarter of what they were in the bountiful years of the mid-2000s. Yes, if consumer sentiment is dampened by the sorry state of the world's former economic powerhouses (which, if you ask me, have not really recovered from the 2008-2009 financial meltdown), people's appetite for shiny new cars will weaken. But this won't make COE premiums nose-dive. At most, you might witness prices stabilise after a soft landing. If a recession hits and persists, and employers wield the axe on salaries and headcounts, then all bets are off. But even then, we might not see premiums see-sawing like they did during the Asian financial crisis of 1997-98, because of the limited quantities of COEs currently. And unlike that period, "taxi participation" is a major factor today. This is because there are many more cab companies as well as a larger population of taxis - both fuelling a demand for COEs. On top of that, the human population in Singapore has also increased significantly. Next >> When will prices fall? So, when will COE prices fall back down to below $20,000? Will they ever? The short answer is probably - and sooner than you think. Again, this has to do with COE supply, which will start to rise as the enormous cohort of cars registered during the COE boom years of 2003-2008 come of age and are scrapped. (COE supply is determined largely by the number of vehicles taken off the road.) Scrapping bonanza If you look at the age profile of passenger cars on the road today, you will get a pretty good idea of when this scrapping bonanza will start to happen. The first wave is likely to take place between mid-2013 and early-2014. The next wave - a bigger one - will be in 2015. And by 2016, we should see COE supply reaching tsunami scale. This will be followed by a couple more years of sizeable quotas before supply starts to shrink yet again. Barring a fundamental change to the way COE supply is determined, car buyers and sellers will continue to experience a feast-and-famine situation. COE premiums and corresponding new car prices will continue to fluctuate from year to year. The savvy consumer should align himself or herself to this cycle which, if you'd notice, makes a full circle once every 10 years. Got a comment? Send it to [email protected] Christopher Tan is the contributing editor of Torque magazine by SPH Magazines. This month's issue is on sale. Check out more stories at Torque online, www.torque.com.sg

TOKYO - TOYOTA Motor Corp said on Wednesday that it was considering raising its prices in response to soaring material costs, following a report that it is preparing to announce hikes in Japan for next month. According to the Nikkei business daily, Japan's top automaker has began notifying affiliated dealerships of the planned price increases. It would be the first time since 1974 that the auto giant has raised the domestic prices of existing passenger vehicles, rather than waiting for the launch of new models, the newspaper said. The increases of between one and three per cent are likely to apply to vehicles most affected by rising steel and raw metal prices, such as the Prius hybrid and the Dyna truck, the report said without naming any sources. The price of iron ore, a vital material to make steel, has soared in recent years due to rising demand, particularly in fast-growing China and India. 'We are aware of the current situation of higher raw materials prices,' said Toyota spokesman Hideaki Homma. He said senior Toyota officials are mulling whether to raise domestic prices in response to soaring material costs although no decision has yet been made. Nissan, Japan's third largest automaker, has indicated that it is waiting for market leader Toyota to raise vehicle prices before it follows suit. Toyota is a pioneer in hybrid vehicles, which reduce fuel consumption by switching between a regular engine and an electric motor. The Prius line enjoys significant success in the global hybrid market so a price hike would be unlikely to affect sales significantly, analysts said. A price rise for commercial trucks may have to be shouldered by vehicle dealers if they are to avoid losing business, they added. Some company watchers warned that the financial benefits of a price hike were likely to be limited and could deter buyers. 'I am not sure if this is the risk worth taking,' said one auto analyst at a Japanese brokerage house, who declined to be named. The surging raw material costs come as rocketing fuel prices and a weak economy weigh on Japanese automakers' sales, particularly of trucks and sports utility vehicles in the United States. Japan's auto market is also in a slump, depressed by weak consumer spending, a shrinking population and signs that younger Japanese are losing interest in cars, particularly in big cities. -- AFP Nissan and Toyota Going to Increase Car Price Again

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New car prices going to hit an all time high very very soon. car dealers will take advantage of the recent coe reclassification to increase prices. what you all think? will there be an even stronger demand for 2nd hand cars?

Hey folks... Seems like used car prices are being controlled by dealers Crazy market put there... Is there a way for genuine buyers & sellers to match one another? After 4 days of intensive sgcarmart fingering & 1 day of checking out dealers, I feel like everywhere chop carrot

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