Ct3833 Supersonic October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 12:03 PM, therock said: Start with the steering wheel.. Press any button Move to the central console. Squeeze the sides, then go and press on the doors.. there are so many things on the Civic that creak.. the fit and finish also leave a lot to be desired. There are so many clever design features in the HRV. Controls all fall into place. A lot of effort has been put into it by the Japanese engineers. The HRV uses a new engine, that can fight with the larger capacity and higher FC 1.6l ancient motor in the Civic. Sure the Civic has more legroom and it's been reported to have better ride and handling. So there are reasons to buy the Civic, the build and old engine notwithstanding.. For some, the Civic monikor is sufficient. The HRV does have a more busy ride, and it may be partly due to the torsion beam suspension. It's a small car after all. Thanks for your advice and comprehensive comparison. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 12:37 PM, Ct3833 said: Thanks for your advice and comprehensive comparison. No prob bro.. I love my FD. And it's important that you buy the car that you love too. Sure, we shouldn't get too attached to our possessions, but it's a ten year relationship.. if we spend a 6 digit sum, we might as well have a little fun too. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 Oh do check out the civic thread too. The new model is even lower slung. Hard for an old man like me to get into .. Even harder for elderly parents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyy Neutral Newbie October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 anybody can share what is the difference between normal hrv and lx version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 3:01 PM, Skyy said: anybody can share what is the difference between normal hrv and lx version? Bro May I suggest you go through the last few posts. Just a page or two before this, all the differences have been listed. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viclee Neutral Newbie October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 12:20 PM, therock said: Furthermore Toyota has it's own CHR coming soon, so it will be an exciting 2017 for potential buyers of cars with SUVs on their minds. Do you have info when CHR arrive Sing, CHR is 1.5L, is good to compare HRV vs CHR before decision on purchare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafansu Turbocharged October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 10:13 AM, therock said: These are the ones they have bought.. so there are already so many, so the influx will slow down. Unless they have not gotten COES for them, then the COE will go up for sure.. saw quite a number of harrier in the photo also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 3:51 AM, Viclee said: Do you have info when CHR arrive Sing, CHR is 1.5L, is good to compare HRV vs CHR before decision on purchare No word from Borneo, but PIs are already bring them in. Your timeline will determine if you can compare. Also I think the price range could be different. Eg, the RAV4 is priced so high, it's not worth it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 8:30 AM, therock said: Let's not rub it in.. many bought their cars during the time when the PI was the only choice. And the PIs helped to force Kah to bring the HRV from Japan, so all credit to the brave bros who helped. Moving ahead, let's hope this kind of pressure can be extended to other models / makes. If Kah gets cocky, they may be punished as people will vote with their wallets. My friend was so pleased with the build quality. Almost spat at the Civic and the Mobilio ... her facial expression would have been great on a Honda ad Toyota wish? Hahaha All car are good car whether PI or AD. Just spend within your budget line and do regular maintenance. Should be fine in spore context. It doesn't matter pte hire or taxi. A BnB car can never be use as sign of status. Just drive it as part of daily transport and not over stress yourselves. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieffe 2nd Gear October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 1:14 PM, therock said: Oh do check out the civic thread too. The new model is even lower slung. Hard for an old man like me to get into .. Even harder for elderly parents. Ya once you get used to the height of the SUV in out it will get stuck to you. On 10/3/2016 at 4:57 AM, therock said: No word from Borneo, but PIs are already bring them in. Your timeline will determine if you can compare. Also I think the price range could be different. Eg, the RAV4 is priced so high, it's not worth it..The CRV is also priced quite bad. Made in Thailand too using older engine and older tranny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 9:53 AM, Wt_know said: wah ... all are vezel ar? Vast majority are Vezel (or maybe some HR-V), but there are a few Odyssey inside, a classic looking Porsches in the corner, a fair quantity of Honda Jade and some Sienta and Harrier as well. On 10/2/2016 at 12:20 PM, therock said: IMO, the Civic is the flagship volume seller for Honda. It deserves the best engineers, designers and the highest level of detail. Sure, a Honda Accord may have better engines, space and even materials, but the Civic has always been the volume seller. When my FD was due, the first thing I did was to look for a new Civic. I was so disappointed with what my money could buy. Not only did I feel disrespected that Honda tried to put the engine from my generation of Civics in it, they also used cheaper and poorer plastics compared to a ten year old car. The final insult was that I will have to pay more for a 1.6l car compared to my 1.8l one. And sitting in the same showroom was a supposedly lower end model the HRV with a new engine, better design, and a superior interior.. When car buyers spend so much, they don't really want to be taken for a ride.. Compared to Civic's traditional rivals, the Corolla, also Thai made, the Mazda and even the Subaru, each own is much better made. The main thing going for it is the ride and handling which are reported to be very impressive. I expect Kah to start giving discounts for the Civic once the initial euphoria dies down and they begin to count the sales or lack of it for their top seller. Now with the Uber / Grab phenomenon kicking in, some buyers of the HRV may switch to the QQ or even the Forrester as they may not want to buy a car associated with a rental company. Furthermore Toyota has it's own CHR coming soon, so it will be an exciting 2017 for potential buyers of cars with SUVs on their minds. Frankly the HR-V/Vezel interior to me is just a mess of incongruent choices in shapes, the Civic has a far more coherent interior design. Materials wise I can't judge the Civic as I've never gone to examine it, but I don't doubt that the HR-V/Vezel is better in this regard. However, smart design choices? Is that ridiculous touch panel climate control smart? Vezel/HR-V is doing very well now because it is riding a stylish CUV wave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 10:48 AM, 7hm said: Frankly the HR-V/Vezel interior to me is just a mess of incongruent choices in shapes, the Civic has a far more coherent interior design. Materials wise I can't judge the Civic as I've never gone to examine it, but I don't doubt that the HR-V/Vezel is better in this regard. However, smart design choices? Is that ridiculous touch panel climate control smart? Bro, after you touch the plastics in the Civic, then let me know what you think. I don't like the touchscreen with no buttons, and yes, it can be better. But you can use the buttons on the steering wheel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 (edited) On 10/3/2016 at 11:09 AM, therock said: Bro, after you touch the plastics in the Civic, then let me know what you think. I don't like the touchscreen with no buttons, and yes, it can be better. But you can use the buttons on the steering wheel. Not gonna happen any time soon, haven't make plans or time to visit showrooms for a long time So what I got about the material quality of Civic is purely hearsay. Frankly I think Vezel is OK plastics wise, nothing special but not "bad", after looking around in one. It's the designs I got problems with - Vezel/HR-V interior looks cheap to me, whereas Civic interior looks less cheap, until you see the gear stick area... I'm referring to the touch sensitive panel for controlling climate control, not the touch screen. Touchscreen infotainment is fine. Touch panel climate control is just nonsensical. Every other brand I've seen try it quickly returned to physical buttons within a generation or two. There's no adjustment of climate control via steering wheel buttons on that car. The only brand I've seen sticking to it is Peugeot, but even then they have some physical buttons. There's also Tesla. I wondering if Volvo will also persist with full-touch system. Edited October 3, 2016 by 7hm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 Honestly bro, if the only thing wrong is a touchscreen climate control, then this car is pretty perfect.. that kind of issue can be easily sorted when Honda does a facelift.. If the hardware, like the gearbox, engine or other heavy duty stuff is broken, that's a lot harder to fix.. If Grab is willing to choose it as a taxi, it should be a pretty hardy car :) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ara 1st Gear October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 Depend in individual. Things have to change. All touch is ok for me. Half touch maybe instead weird to me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 (edited) On 10/3/2016 at 1:15 PM, therock said: Honestly bro, if the only thing wrong is a touchscreen climate control, then this car is pretty perfect.. that kind of issue can be easily sorted when Honda does a facelift.. If the hardware, like the gearbox, engine or other heavy duty stuff is broken, that's a lot harder to fix.. If Grab is willing to choose it as a taxi, it should be a pretty hardy car :) "Perfect" is a pretty strong choice of word. Ergonomically, the touch-climate-control, that's the largest fault. I can't say I've spent time in driver's seat of Vezel/HR-V long enough to say much about other things. The rest of the layout look very typical of Japanese cars, but I'll just state again that my main beef is with the visual design as a whole. Vezel Hybrid did encounter a recall regarding problem with its transmission. And now even gasoline Vezels are being recalled over a fire hazard I think. But otherwise it seems like it's built on mostly proven technology. On 10/3/2016 at 2:40 PM, Ara said: Depend in individual. Things have to change. All touch is ok for me. Half touch maybe instead weird to me. It's fine until you want to try adjusting your settings while trying to keep your eyes on the road. With actual buttons you can feel the buttons, with touch panels you might accidentally brush against the wrong thing. But nowadays, even these cheaper cars, including Vezel, have automatic climate control, so I admit the problem isn't that serious if you hardly touch the temperature settings at all. Edited October 3, 2016 by 7hm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamHoon33 1st Gear October 3, 2016 Share October 3, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 12:20 PM, therock said: IMO, the Civic is the flagship volume seller for Honda. It deserves the best engineers, designers and the highest level of detail. Sure, a Honda Accord may have better engines, space and even materials, but the Civic has always been the volume seller. When my FD was due, the first thing I did was to look for a new Civic. I was so disappointed with what my money could buy. Not only did I feel disrespected that Honda tried to put the engine from my generation of Civics in it, they also used cheaper and poorer plastics compared to a ten year old car. The final insult was that I will have to pay more for a 1.6l car compared to my 1.8l one. And sitting in the same showroom was a supposedly lower end model the HRV with a new engine, better design, and a superior interior.. When car buyers spend so much, they don't really want to be taken for a ride.. Compared to Civic's traditional rivals, the Corolla, also Thai made, the Mazda and even the Subaru, each own is much better made. The main thing going for it is the ride and handling which are reported to be very impressive. I expect Kah to start giving discounts for the Civic once the initial euphoria dies down and they begin to count the sales or lack of it for their top seller. Now with the Uber / Grab phenomenon kicking in, some buyers of the HRV may switch to the QQ or even the Forrester as they may not want to buy a car associated with a rental company. Furthermore Toyota has it's own CHR coming soon, so it will be an exciting 2017 for potential buyers of cars with SUVs on their minds. The engine for the new civic is the carry over for the 1.6 model and the major change is the 1.5 tubro version which is more worth the price even it cost more than the 1.6 model. The new civic is even lower and some people may have problem in getting in or out especailly for the elder people. The Japan HRV has a same engine as the Jazz 1.5. It all depends on individual wants. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnumde 2nd Gear October 4, 2016 Share October 4, 2016 Hi!I just bought my Vezel X as well. I'm thinking of changing my rims to lightweight 18". Any recommendation where I can do a trade-in? Thanks in advance! ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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