[Error] Mazda & Vezel Thread

[inlinesix]

Why so obsessed with the lights? Is it a deal breaker if they are not led lights?

 

A light is a light and is for illumination that's all and both halogen and led lights work fine in Singapore roads.

 

From functional point, agrees.

 

From maintenance point of view, halogen needs to be replaced regularly.  It will become dimmer & dimmer over time.  On the other hand, LED works fine 8 - 10 years.  The only downside is once spoilt, need to replace entire headlight.

 

From aesthetic point of view, it make the car look 21 century.

 

If you can't tell the diff, maybe you should take B.M.W.

[wongpumpkins]

Yes. Alternatively, if you want, you may try to stop with lesser brake pressure. With that, the start stop system will not activate. Or else if you want to restart the engine before shifting gear, turn the steering wheel abit and the engine will restart.

Ic..found this auto start stop stop engine too fast..still adapt thus system but anyway already have habit to off the system but sometime still forgot...but i found that if no auto climate system engage..auto start stop not activated..

[Lamboluver]

From functional point, agrees.

 

From maintenance point of view, halogen needs to be replaced regularly. It will become dimmer & dimmer over time. On the other hand, LED works fine 8 - 10 years. The only downside is once spoilt, need to replace entire headlight.

 

From aesthetic point of view, it make the car look 21 century.

 

If you can't tell the diff, maybe you should take B.M.W.

My 8 year old Camry lights were fine, never blow or replaced, light penetration is better than led, anyway I believe most Singaporeans are obsessed with the bengish look of led lights to such a point that the lights alone would make or break the deal in buying a new car. Edited June 18, 2016 by Lamboluver

[K20VTEC]

Ic..found this auto start stop stop engine too fast..still adapt thus system but anyway already have habit to off the system but sometime still forgot...but i found that if no auto climate system engage..auto start stop not activated..

There are a few conditions for it to activate. If your aircon set temp is too low and cabin temp is high, it will not activate as well.

 

 

Does the new HR-V from Kah come with start-stop together with capacitors in the boot as well?

Edited June 18, 2016 by K20VTEC

[inlinesix]

My 8 year old Camry lights were fine, never blow or replaced, light penetration is better than led, anyway I believe most Singaporeans are obsessed with the bengish look of led lights to such a point that the lights alone would make or break the deal in buying a new car.

 

U are 1 of those who don't maintain headlight.  If u understand how halogen generates light, u will not say such a naive statement.

 

When i was driving a halogen light car, i change the bulb every year.

 

Why do cars nowadays change to HID or LED?  Halogen is energy inefficient and not as bright as HID or LED with the same power output.

 

I would not say halogen has better light penetration.  The only reason it is perceived so is due to color temperature.

 

So, u are saying that BMW 5/7 series with LED headlight looks ah beng.  Come on lah.

 

When i buy new car, i buy new tech.  If i want old skool tech, might as well buy used car.

[K20VTEC]

My 8 year old Camry lights were fine, never blow or replaced, light penetration is better than led, anyway I believe most Singaporeans are obsessed with the bengish look of led lights to such a point that the lights alone would make or break the deal in buying a new car.

Well.. The area maybe 1/2 car lengths infront of you is significantly brighter with LED.

 

However, with that said, it is not a sweeping statement that all halogens suck and you can't see shit with them. I guess it all boils down to what your bulbs are as well as headlamp design. I have a friend's car whose low beams projectors which turned on, show nothing on the road. The throw and brightness is just crap.

[K20VTEC]

U are 1 of those who don't maintain headlight. If u understand how halogen generates light, u will not say such a naive statement.

 

When i was driving a halogen light car, i change the bulb every year.

 

Why do cars nowadays change to HID or LED? Halogen is energy inefficient and not as bright as HID or LED with the same power output.

 

I would not say halogen has better light penetration. The only reason it is perceived so is due to color temperature.

 

So, u are saying that BMW 5/7 series with LED headlight looks ah beng. Come on lah.

 

When i buy new car, i buy new tech. If i want old skool tech, might as well buy used car.

Correct. Plus the design of LED headlamps look much better than halogen with reflector housing on the HRV. That looks so ugly and old. Looking at a Vezel and HRV from the front view, the headlamp difference make a big difference in its look.

 

Halogens spend most of their energy being converted as heat rather than light. HID on the other hand is more energy efficient when it is up to temperature and running. However HID needs a big amount of energy to get up to that temp.

 

LEDS on the other hand does not require any "up to temp" thing that HID does and once it's on, it's full brightness and stays that way.

[Kentan85]

I like to seek some advice, so is 109k reasonable for Vezel Facelift at PI?

Should I consider HRV at Kah? Last weekend, interest rates with KAH was 2.17%

But at PI was 2.78%

I did some calculation and bought HRV.

Interest cost will be 2-3k diff

HRV will have higher parf value due to OMV AND CEVS - 2 to 3k diff

Warranty from KAH - hard to value

 

Since it is also MIJ and same engine as Vezel, I guess there isn't much difference now. Hence, I went for HRV

[Bieffe]

Is it certain LED headlights or LED DRL? My colleague who booked told me it is halogen headlights for both trims.

PI vezel has 8 air bags.

Something 1 cannot buy to upgrade.

[therock]

I need a little help with how OMV, CEVS and PARF work:

 

For OMV - if it's high, I get more $ back?

CEVS rebate - is it the same ?

How about PARF?

 

Thanks!

[Lamboluver]

U are 1 of those who don't maintain headlight. If u understand how halogen generates light, u will not say such a naive statement.

 

When i was driving a halogen light car, i change the bulb every year.

 

Why do cars nowadays change to HID or LED? Halogen is energy inefficient and not as bright as HID or LED with the same power output.

 

I would not say halogen has better light penetration. The only reason it is perceived so is due to color temperature.

 

So, u are saying that BMW 5/7 series with LED headlight looks ah beng. Come on lah.

 

When i buy new car, i buy new tech. If i want old skool tech, might as well buy used car.

Fair enough comment, but I would not let lights be a deal breaker and ask so much about them, to me they are a very small part of the car and there are many more important points to consider.

[teomingern]

Fair enough comment, but I would not let lights be a deal breaker and ask so much about them, to me they are a very small part of the car and there are many more important points to consider.

I'm not so sure about making such a statement. With the kind of crazy rains we get these days, plus I do drive to Malaysia, the clarity of the head lights in illuminating the way ahead is pretty important. My previous car, I had to change my bulbs for the main beam every 6 months... it was a costly exercise until I bit the bullet and paid double for the next bulb and I stopped getting blown bulbs.

 

HID lights can also suffer from arcing where they can fuse out and blow. But this is rare.

 

LED lights are the best. Long lasting and brightness instant and constant. And they are very energy efficient.

[Andyngps]

Anyone know the roughtly actual cost of X-Vezel?

 

Those PI selling the car without COE,

costs around 51k to 53k but I think the actual cost would be much lower, perhaps around 41-45K? What do your think?

I may be wrong but i came across before the simplest way to calculate is using a factor of 2.3 to multiply the omv. Faster than using the various costs to calculate.

[inlinesix]

Fair enough comment, but I would not let lights be a deal breaker and ask so much about them, to me they are a very small part of the car and there are many more important points to consider.

 

U r 1 of those driver i am worry when i drive on the road.  Light is part of the safety equipment of the car.  U think it is small part of the car especially so when raining season (so more La Nina is getting active).

[rovwei]

Anyone got the bumper kit of new facelift?

[Lamboluver]

U r 1 of those driver i am worry when i drive on the road. Light is part of the safety equipment of the car. U think it is small part of the car especially so when raining season (so more La Nina is getting active).

What are you talking about? All cars that are on the road must be LTA tested and approved and also go through VICOM testing when on the road, so why worry? all are approved. So no issues with safety on any lights in Singapore. It is not like you can pick and choose the lights that come with the car. Edited June 18, 2016 by Lamboluver

[gnail]

I may be wrong but i came across before the simplest way to calculate is using a factor of 2.3 to multiply the omv. Faster than using the various costs to calculate.

 

Thanks!

 

But why/how the factor 2.3 is being used. Thank in advance.

 

In this case, the base cost is around 20.5k x2.3 =47.15k which seems logical & make sense as the price quoted by PI is around 101k (cost 47.15k+COE 53k), hence, if COE stay at 53k, anything above 101k will be the PI profit margin.

[Poper]

Halogen vs HID vs LED Light

 

 

Quite informative.