TURBO vs N.A

[Viviobluerex]

Yeah, heard its twin-fin-ed and made of titanium...

 

ECU i not sure what will they give.

[Luckcent]

From elfenstar's postings, it appears that he is from Down Under...

he's not from down under but went under....hahaha

[Elfenstar]

he's not from down under but went under....hahaha

 

Hmmz... heard someone mention my nick.......

 

Nah I'm from our good old fine city :p but down under studying and tinkering around with cars. the second they started talking abt animals i didn't check this thread.. hang on... i go read...

[Elfenstar]

Is 9-11:1 AFR a standard in the caburettor era? Nobody I know is running in those level.

 

Regarding the faster spool up. I think hot gas and more gas ==> faster spool. I think the most restrictive log style turbo manifolds leads to fastest spool time.

 

Dunno why the AFR is that rich...(dun get me wrong, i prefer rich to lean, but thats a lil too rich) I try not to go under 11:1 on WOT unless under exceptional circumstances... also i went to a dynoday recently (independant workshop with their own dyno) and reconfirmed the AFR's that are on the ECU AFR map.... Tomei just replied to me though and it is safe to use the SAFC2 on their ECU which means more $$$ needs to be spent (i just ordered a new clutch, and 3inch exhaust) .

 

Any idea whether i should get the eManage just to tinker around with it instead of the SAFC2? From the v.little experience i have with emanage, it seems a lot more troublesome to tune than the safc/vafc/power fc's.

 

As for spooling speeds, i still havent figured out why... I would like to know as i cannot think of any reason...

 

Thumbs

 

you might want to take a chill pill with the vince (i think).. guy man... he was just curious about you and he didn't mean to offend/insult you till after your hostile (IMHO) reply.

 

I seriously doubt that either one of us could say anything that would sway the other persons viewpoint so i think we should just let it rest. I am really curious about what you do though... If you don't want to say then its fine, I do understand. (Difference in opinion or not, at least my ratios did match those of the performance cars you quoted after ). I suspect that our views are more inline with each other, just that the application and situational differnces are causing the conflict.

 

Oh one last thing... about the sparkplugs, its a norm in the tuning industry here to use copper plugs and change them every 5000kms as copper plugs give a better spark (at the expense of life)than the platinum/iridium variants and on a lesser note also end up being cheaper ($5 vs $20ish per plug)in the long run.

Edited July 18, 2005 by Elfenstar

[Luckcent]

which part down under are you in ?

[Littleblackalfa]

Nah I'm from our good old fine city :p but down under studying and tinkering around with cars.

 

I knew someone who's doing what you're doing down under. He's based in Melbourne. (I think, or was it Perth??? or Sydney? *sigh*)

 

I also know someone who's nick was "Thumbs".

 

I'll be damned if you 2 happen to be that very same 2 guys I know. From my army days... WHAHAHAHA...

[Thumbs]

I am really curious about what you do though... If you don't want to say then its fine, I do understand.

 

I do engine calibration. Does that satisfy your curiosity?

 

(Difference in opinion or not, at least my ratios did match those of the performance cars you quoted after ). I suspect that our views are more inline with each other, just that the application and situational differnces are causing the conflict.

 

No, what you typed was obviously incorrect, so stop whitewashing your mistakes. First of all, you couldn't even tell the difference between rich and lean, second you stated that 12.x AFR is "dangerously lean", which is nonsense. Anyone who has made the effort to sift through the previous postings will be able to see things for what they really are.

 

I'm not interested in popularity contests. You can be Mr Popular but that doesn't mean whatever you say is right.

 

As I mentioned time and time again, all that's needed to verify the truth is a willingness to learn and to do some research. Something which you obviously have not done.

 

re: plugs, you're starting a whole new topic of BS and I don't have the time nor energy to explain things to you. If you believe copper is the best, then go ahead and use it just don't mislead others down your path.

[Elfenstar]

I'm in Melb.

[Elfenstar]

Nah i doubt so. I was a police regular. But it would be really funny if it was

[BMW320i]

Relax dude ... we are here to learn, thats why we have a car forum.

 

If indeed anyone made a mistake, a correction could be "kindly" highlighted so that the person may either acknowledge the mistake or justify his claims with facts or figures.

 

We don't get 1st prize for winning The Best Argument Award.

[Genie47]

Put it in my crude analogy which you often hear in this forum. Arguing in Internet forums is like competing in the Paralympics. Even if you win you are still a retard.

[BMW320i]

I have just the thing !

 

 

But we should welcome the friendly debate of any aspects of a conversation so as long no personal attacks are initiated.

[Elfenstar]

Attitude wise you can be a real MOFO you know that?? If you don't want to answer something don't! It also doesn't hurt to be kinder to others (me excluded) regardless of popularity.

 

We both should know that AFR's are not set. They vary according to the fuel maps. Initially we both were wrong in using a single AFR only. If you havent realised it by now, I handle mostly TC'ed cars tuned for performance, and on WOT I have never known of any of these that runs reliably on a ratio of over 12.1:1 on WOT. Anything leaner is dangerously lean in a TC car, Even factory standard cars running low boost on WOT have similar ratios. When i mention rich and lean, it is in relation to that particular point as most mechanics do (as opposed to engineers) as it would be easier for the layman to understand. When it comes to this, I've had a bit of learning to do initially but i always try and play it safe for the engine as the power loss from running that little bit richer is less than the power gained from increasing boost and advancing the timing. I may be wrong coz you're the guy that does engine calibration.

 

As for the plugs, silver is the best for a good spark, followed by copper. Unfortunately I can't find a silver plug that isnt meant for race purposes here. Do your research, and you'll find that tests do prove that. Try google if you like, theres so much other stuff, but you'll be able to find the comparisons.

[Genie47]

Ah yes! Just the poster I was looking for. Forgot where I put it.

[Elfenstar]

I pity the guy in the pic unless he's getting royalties... i've seen so many photochops with him in it, its stopped being funny, and now verges on the point of being insensitive and biased.

[Vipermolecule]

Taking a break on e-manage tuning now... U know.. gas prices is high now, don't go to WOT that often.

 

However, I'm trying to buy this used on ebay ====> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/chu_tan/albu...m/ph//my_photos

 

 

what car is this manifold for ??

[BMW320i]

ok you can have mine.

[BMW320i]

He does serve a purpose to all the morons on the internet arguing like little 5 yrs old material girls.

 

In my opinion I would say that the person in the photo possesses more dinity, self respect, maturity than the heros on the internet. I wonder if anybody feels the same way I do.