Mojoe Neutral Newbie May 25, 2005 Share May 25, 2005 really? i thought only thr luxury has extra air bags? larger engine? PI has the 2.3 right? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspri Clutched May 25, 2005 Share May 25, 2005 (edited) Astra engine noise tends to sound more refined even at higher revs. So even when the engine noise intrudes in to the cabin, I find it less irritating than when the Focus' one does. Strangely, I'm reading something about the Focus engineers wanting to make the Focus engine more refined at lower speed. From what I'm hearing, that certainly isn't the case. I have this feeling they did some very good things to the Ti-VCT engine but unfortunately, we will never find out, will we? :) Edited: Oops, spelt engine name wrongly. Edited May 25, 2005 by Aspri Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspri Clutched May 25, 2005 Share May 25, 2005 Just reading it now. Agree totally. Not an apple-to-apple comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Neutral Newbie May 25, 2005 Share May 25, 2005 patience... rush not... or burn hot.. who knows they might bring in the Ti-VCT engine later on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed520 Neutral Newbie May 26, 2005 Share May 26, 2005 any idea what are the prices of the astra and the focus now? thinking of getting the astra, 1.6 or 1.8 better, what are the differences? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspri Clutched May 27, 2005 Share May 27, 2005 Astra going at 77k+ for 1.6 and +4k for 1.8. Difference is chrome strips in grille and that 1.6 is 5-speed MTA transmission while 1.8 is 4 speed auto. Other than that, everything else is the same (specs wise). They both drive very differently. Of course, most people would be more used to the 1.8's auto gear. It's also smooth. 1.6 MTA requires some adaptation but I reckon it's more fun. Besides, the 1.6 uses the Twinport engine which has far superior fuel economy. Go try both lah. I did! Focus 2 going at 76k+ fyi. Equipment wise is slightly lesser than Astra though but drives slightly better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinius Neutral Newbie May 27, 2005 Share May 27, 2005 yup..totally agreed with the part on the engine sound between the Astra and Focus.... the engine sound from the Astra is 'music' to my ears Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magfocus 5th Gear May 27, 2005 Share May 27, 2005 The astra's engine note does sound sporty when pushed.. its a personal thing i guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focus17 Neutral Newbie May 27, 2005 Share May 27, 2005 i think the Ti-VCT engine is only available in manual transmission.. check out ford's european websites to confirm this. imho, if you're looking for a hatch, the focus and astra are both good buys.. however, if you're looking for a sedan, the focus sedan is really handsome.. no sedan astra available yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Neutral Newbie May 28, 2005 Share May 28, 2005 (edited) me looking to holding on to my mk 1 focus hatch for awhile ... is it me or is the new FL AR147 cheaper from today's papers?? Edited May 28, 2005 by Mojoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Neutral Newbie May 28, 2005 Share May 28, 2005 btw... congrats!! welcome to ford club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirc0m Neutral Newbie May 30, 2005 Share May 30, 2005 (edited) Say I am Bias... My Views... mentioned in one of the Focus Review... http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/Cars_C2/We...page=last;#last 1) Megane II 2) Astra 3) Focus My consideration are Price/Std Equipment or Features/ Looks and Feel.... Edited May 30, 2005 by Xirc0m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemundo Supercharged May 31, 2005 Share May 31, 2005 hehe...why u reply to me leh..i simply saying mazda 3 price drop a lot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstcall Clutched June 4, 2005 Share June 4, 2005 (edited) Quote Astra engine noise tends to sound more refined even at higher revs. So even when the engine noise intrudes in to the cabin, I find it less irritating than when the Focus' one does. Strangely, I'm reading something about the Focus engineers wanting to make the Focus engine more refined at lower speed. From what I'm hearing, that certainly isn't the case. I have this feeling they did some very good things to the Ti-VCT engine but unfortunately, we will never find out, will we? :) Edited: Oops, spelt engine name wrongly. agree on the engine note. I test drove recently and find the lack of lower end torque forces the car need to rev up 3 to 3.5k under normal driving to get reasonable pace. Even the SE agrees. When pushed hard, the drive train is very smooth, however the weak engine makes the push more like a roaring excercise. btw, it seems that the gear shift seems to be using the same parts bin as the Mazda 3! They look so familiar..... The 'special' feature the new Focus have is the 'Sport', Economy and 'Adaptive' mode. But I find them very silly to be activated using the left stalk menu to scroll and activate the mode. They should set it near the gear shift by using easily activated buttons. The interior design and materials is quite a disapointment though. Looks good on photo but in reality, the lower dash materials and the door plastic is so hard and rough texture that it reminds me of a certain Korean made. Edited June 4, 2005 by Firstcall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistlad Neutral Newbie June 4, 2005 Share June 4, 2005 Megane2 OMV 20~21K M2 pricing is the cheapest among the 3 cars i believe. never seen the new focus but looking at the legroom for Astra, M2 is definitely much better. looks of the 3 cars is subjective. M2 pickup is lacking i agree but cruising is very solid. handling and suspension of M2 is reasonable among conticars, but definitely much better than the japcars i tested. may want to consider Mazda3 but u r comparing a conti with a jap, very different in many ways. i chose my M2 in the end becos of the price, interior space and looks. loving every moment with my babe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flier Neutral Newbie June 12, 2005 Share June 12, 2005 totally agree with whistlad...had alot of remarks about m2 when i first got it. but loving it more and more each day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medane Neutral Newbie June 20, 2005 Share June 20, 2005 Agree... M2 has more features (incl 6 airbags for safety) as compared to the other 2 models. I traded-in my 2.5yr old Focus Auto for M2 this year and never regret since. Both cars (original stock) had been driven to KL, but the feel and performance differs on both. However, every individual has different priority and interest when choosing a car such as cost, looks (interior/exterior), performance, safety etc. Do make your choice wisely. My advice is test drive all the models and my your conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vwbora Neutral Newbie June 22, 2005 Share June 22, 2005 Has anybody taken a look at Citroen C4? The new kid on the block. launch like 1 month ago with very cool interior and 110bhp and I understand from the SE that the 2nd batch is already sold out meaning to say that there are already 12 on road now. Any comments there? I'm going for a test drive this sat so maybe keep you guys updated then. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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