Vit4wd 1st Gear April 23, 2005 Share April 23, 2005 The facts - Picanto 1.1M - 930kg Vios 1.5M - 940kg Rio 1.3M - 1015kg Wira 1.3M - 970kg Not surprising that the fuel consumtion for Kia cars are high, as the poor engine has a heavy body to drag around. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Neutral Newbie April 25, 2005 Share April 25, 2005 So this implies that.. Kia cars are.. ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattee Neutral Newbie April 25, 2005 Share April 25, 2005 2 inferences here - the korean are too stupid to use lighter materials or the other 2 models have short-changed its owner with some essential use of materials. Of course, there are still those even believing these car makers introduces high tech to reduce weight for their low-end models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_on_wheels Neutral Newbie April 25, 2005 Share April 25, 2005 heavy cars provides a sense of stability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear April 25, 2005 Share April 25, 2005 I think it's the distributors who select the engine size for the respective models to bring in, and the distributors are .....singapore companies ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattee Neutral Newbie April 25, 2005 Share April 25, 2005 Generally, each category of Conti, Korean and certain Japs have certain typical weight. Compared the size of Picanto and Vios, and looking at their weight possibly cannot run away from these inferences ... "2 inferences here - the korean are too stupid to use lighter materials or the other 2 models have short-changed its owner with some essential use of materials. Of course, there are still those even believing these car makers introduce latest high tech to reduce weight for their low-end models." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear April 25, 2005 Share April 25, 2005 Not sure abt the rest of the quoted cars, but i heard from someone that the picanto drives quite well in our start stop traffic due to good low rpm torque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear April 25, 2005 Share April 25, 2005 (edited) You have hit the nail! Depends on what the car is designed for. Weight does factor in but that is compensated with gearing. The Picanto is bred as a city car. Just like the old SF310 Swift and every 3-cylinder small car made. The low end torque is more than adequate. A mixed city and highway bruiser will be different of course. You can't have your cake and eat it. Edited April 25, 2005 by Genie47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged April 26, 2005 Share April 26, 2005 2 ....the korean are too stupid to use lighter materials or the other 2 models have short-changed its owner with some essential use of materials....Light weight material too expensive to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattee Neutral Newbie April 26, 2005 Share April 26, 2005 Like that Camry must be more expensive than Lexus if you look at their weight closely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mydotcom 1st Gear April 27, 2005 Share April 27, 2005 Light weight materials also means it is easily dented. It takes only a slight know to make a big dent in Jap cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnchong Neutral Newbie April 27, 2005 Share April 27, 2005 Yah, I've seen it happening. Jap cars get real crumpled! Is it merely down to lack of technology? I mean continental cars are heavier and more solid, but they still run faster than Jap ones. (Of course not all lah) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear April 27, 2005 Share April 27, 2005 Good point on the gearing comment. And such small city cars better be manual, else it can really feel bog when loaded. I remember the old Nissan March 1.3 is auto and it's really no power when loaded ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattee Neutral Newbie April 27, 2005 Share April 27, 2005 Crumple zone is often the consolation given. But use of lighter (probably thinner) material are also in many parts, from frame, transmission box, drive shaft, axle, steering rod etc. Obviously, heavier materials are not just for protection purpose. And how often accidents happened on crumple zone even assuming it works? There are always those believing these car makers introduce sophisticated technology to reduce weight for their low-end models (which no other car makers can do). That might explain why these light-weight models sell so well here and probably not in America and Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route Clutched April 27, 2005 Share April 27, 2005 the old nissan march is 1.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear April 27, 2005 Share April 27, 2005 1L auto? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
York Clutched April 27, 2005 Share April 27, 2005 there's a 1.3L March but not available locally...I think in NZ & Aus, they ve it...the CG13DE, if not mistaken.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernon Neutral Newbie May 4, 2005 Share May 4, 2005 I think they use regular steel which is heavier and cheaper. Well, Conti cars are quite heavy too if you just compare the weight alone. Truth is that most korean cars use these more affordable sheet metals so that their cars can be priced more compeititively. It's not that the Koreans are unable to use lighter sheet metal. Money is the most important thing in this world, remember? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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