Kiat Neutral Newbie February 24, 2005 Share February 24, 2005 Hi Could any explain what does ACEA-A3 B3 means for engine oil? Just got my car and the manual talks abt it :) thanks ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus 3rd Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 The following extracted from here: http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/ http://www.acea.be/"The ACEA standards are prefixed with a 'G' for petrol engines and a 'D' or 'PD' for diesel. Coupled with this are numerous approvals by car manufacturers which many oil containers sport with pride. ACEA replaced CCMC in 1996 primarily to allow for greater read-across in test programs (eg. for viscosity, viscosity modifiers and base oil). The CCMC specifications were G (1 to 5) for gasoline, D (1 to 5) or heavy duty diesel and PD1 and PD2 for passenger car diesel. ACEA though have a slightly different nomenclature they can be summarised as A for petrol, B for passenger car diesel and E for heavy duty diesel. The ACEA grades may also be followed by the year of issue which will be either '96, '98 (current) but coming soon is 2000. Full ACEA specs are: A1 Fuel Economy Petrol A2 Standard performance level A3 High performance and / or extended drain B1 Fuel Economy diesel B2 Standard performance level B3 High performance and / or extended drain B4 For direct injection passenger car diesel engines E1 Non-turbo charged light duty diesel E2 Standard performance level E3 High performance extended drain E4 Higher performance and longer extended drain E5 (1999) High performance / long drain plus American/API performances. - This is ACEAs first attempt at a global spec. " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 Now got A5. A combination of A1 and A3. The oil damn expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 There are many ACEA A3-02 rated oils around. FYI, the new A3 standard is in year 2002 which explains the 02 behind. So be careful. Some oil say A3 but in actual fact it could be A3-98. The trick is to see the infamous MB 229.3 specification. MB 229.3 is based on ACEA A3-02. So if you look into a bottle and see ACEA A3 plus MB 229.3 rating. Confirm the oil is ACEA A3-02. ACEA A3-02 oils are usually 5W40 or 0W40 with the exception for Castrol SLX-A3 Oil in the market I know with ACEA A3-02: Castrol SLX-A3 0W30 (The one with Synthetic Intelligence) M1 Gold Supersyn 0W40 Conoco Syncon 5W40 BP Visco 7000 0W40 cxxxxxe Triple R 5W40 (New package curved bottle, old angular bottle is A3-98 rated). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus 3rd Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 Just dump in Delvac MX yesterday. But I don't understand the ACEA rating for Delvac MX..... Its rated A2, B3, B4, E3 & E5. How come its considered extended drain for diesel engine but not for gasoline engine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 how come you always left out YACCO VX1000 one har! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 Normal drain is 10k km. Extended drain is >15k km Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobycane Clutched February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 Hi! Just bought 4L Prestone at Carrefour yesterday. any idea if its good for my 3.5yr old ride? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 Should be OK. Its a 5W40 but rated SJ. I doubt your mileage would have hit more than 400k. You can actually safely use a 30wt oil. Consider that next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobycane Clutched February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 Tot I saw on the label that its SL . Will check that out when I get home... 400K? My current mileage is only 58+K ... quite low... Intended to follow ur advice to switch to 5W40 and later to 5W30. Just want to monitor any change in FC and engine smoothness. Currently using Castrol RS and to my horror, it is actually 10W50! Thank you very much for bringing in your knowledge on Engine Oil to this forum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex101 3rd Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 (edited) Now got A5. A combination of A1 and A3. The oil damn expensive. FYI, Mobil 1 5w30 and 10w30 also are rated A5. http://www.prod.mobil1.com/index.jsp Edited February 25, 2005 by Trex101 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddi Neutral Newbie February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 There are many ACEA A3-02 rated oils around. FYI, the new A3 standard is in year 2002 which explains the 02 behind. So be careful. Some oil say A3 but in actual fact it could be A3-98. The trick is to see the infamous MB 229.3 specification. MB 229.3 is based on ACEA A3-02. So if you look into a bottle and see ACEA A3 plus MB 229.3 rating. Confirm the oil is ACEA A3-02. ACEA A3-02 oils are usually 5W40 or 0W40 with the exception for Castrol SLX-A3 Oil in the market I know with ACEA A3-02: Castrol SLX-A3 0W30 (The one with Synthetic Intelligence) M1 Gold Supersyn 0W40 Conoco Syncon 5W40 BP Visco 7000 0W40 cxxxxxe Triple R 5W40 (New package curved bottle, old angular bottle is A3-98 rated). Also Esso's Ultron 5W-40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 The US formulation selling in Carrefour that is GM4718 rated for Corvette use? If it is, all those who bought it at 69.90 for 6qt tanchiak already! This is better than the sucky M1 Supersyn Gold 0W40. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear February 25, 2005 Share February 25, 2005 Wait till we can get our hands of Imperial Esso XD3 0W40 or 0W30. This oil only selling in Canada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus 3rd Gear February 26, 2005 Share February 26, 2005 Normal drain is 10k km. Extended drain is >15k km You mean when using Delvac MX in gasoline engine, its good for 10k km. But when using the same oil in a diesel engine can last for 15k km? Does this mean that gasoline engine is more 'severe' than diesel engine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear February 26, 2005 Share February 26, 2005 But the thing is, gasolines usually see higher RPM than diesels. It is still mineral oil so being on a 10k OCI is safer. Dunno how they come to that conclusion but most of the US guys will not use mineral 15W40 HDEO to 15k in gasolines. At 10k, it produces very good wear results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etnt Turbocharged February 28, 2005 Share February 28, 2005 I think I saw GM1478M on the backlabel for the mobil 5w30 in carrefour. SO what does that mean?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear February 28, 2005 Share February 28, 2005 It is GM 4718. This means it is tested on Corvettes for high temperature shear stability. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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