Broquet

[Kianbeng]

Today my petrol hose was leaking petrol pretty badly. I lost at least 1 quarter of the tank. When I opened the bonnet, I realised that the petrol hose was lose. So I pushed it in further till it clicked.

 

After I got AAS to tow it to Mazda to have a check, they (mazda) told me I have to pay $20.60 for labour coz the leak was because of the ?Broquet installation?, which could have made the clip on 1 end of the petrol hose go loose.

 

Basically, I heard they just pushed the hose further in and tested the petrol system for leaks.

 

I'm not sure if it's my m'sian mechanic who didn't do a good job of fixing the petrol hose back. But it was already 2 months ago.

 

Anyway, I'm not too happy about it today coz the mechanics at mazda told me that I have to change the petrol hose to the original one (coz I've cut the hose into half and added my broquet in between) for them to still warranty my car against any other future petrol leaks. (Of course they will still give warranty on other problems.)

 

Bad news was. That rubber hose cost $85 if I want to replace it (parts only, exclude labour). Don't ask me why it's so expensive. And all the mazda spare parts shop out there don't stock this part.

 

But when I spoke to a senior service adviser, he was quite open-minded towards such modifications. He said, as long as it's not those additives or even "motor up", it's alright to use it as long as it gives me more mileage. He also told me that it's worth to keep it. But have to monitor if it's leaking again. If it is leaking again, then he suggest I change the petrol hose back to the original one. Then if there is anymore leak, it'll be mazda's responsibilities.

 

Any comments?

 

kianbeng

[Cool]

KianBeng..

 

Cutting of the fuel line void warranty and insurance. Ask Guyver, it is written in the insurance papers.

 

I believed Guyver has a thread on this.. or PM him.

 

That is why, I am forced to come up with "Apollos"...

[Guyver]

Yah.... as for Broquet... been there, done that, took the picture, bought the t-shirt. For anyone that wants to try Broquet... if u ask me...

 

Cos to install it... they need to cut the fuel line.... which is a high pressure line.. and if the guy that install it didn't use the right things.... fuel leak is inevitable!! Anyway i got it removed by a guy from universal consultant.... and it's doing fine... at least so far.... as u must have know.... nobody out there carry the fuel line.... since it's literally never spoil!! that's why nobody out there carries it... u can run around and ask 10 shops... and frankly... i don't think any of them will carry it at all!!

 

Anyway... after i removed the Broquet.... i feel that my car feels more powerful.... then after changing to Apollo... my car responses felt even better... especially with the grounding!!

 

I'll never advise anyone to go for Broquet... really... as in the event that your car catches fire and the insurance company were to do investigation and realised that the cause is due to leakage of petrol as a result of the installation of Broquet... they can deny claim!!!

[Kianbeng]

hmm......but now......maybe because mine's a new car...so even such simple fuel hose are specially designed.......damm! Need to pay $85 to buy the original. Basically it's just a nylon hose wrapped in rubber.

 

As for the insurance.....maybe because all the insurance companies just throw a blanket over such modifications. think I'll need to call up my insurance company to find out if it's ok. It's supposedly approved by LTA to be fitted to the car......supposedly......

 

Another thing is....the car's performance didn't drop after broquet installation. Infact it was more consistent whether I used RON92/95 or 98 now....

 

As for mileage, I can run to about 650kms on average. You can probably attribute this to my driving style perhaps. Furthermore it's a manual car....

 

I haven't really decide for this 323 now. Maybe I would really change back to the original hose.......but....my broquet will have to go. Infact broquet brought me too much benefits for my old car.....that's why I am finding it hard not to trust it again.

 

kianbeng

[Assassin]

kianbeng,

 

I'm on the Broquet as well [yes they are approved by LTA], they were installed by my mechanics at AMK Autpoint and I've got no problems with any petrol leaks. What they did was connect the Boostmaster to one end of the original hose and the other end to another hose which they provided [OEM parts]. no need to cut fuel line. However, I'm not sure if they have the hose for your car tho. You might want to give them a call to check. Details below:

 

Merlin Motor & Engineering Works

Blk 10, #03-13 AMK AutoPoint

AMK Industrial Park 2A

Tel: 64845225

Ask for Henry or Jacky. Very helpful and friendly guys.

[Kianbeng]

I kinda regret now. Coz I ought to have installed it your way. ie. Get an additional hose. But it's just that when I asked my mechanic (msia) he felt......it looked like a normal hose to him......so we decided to cut it......since it'll be very long if we added one instead.

 

I've already called all the reputable mazda spare parts shop in singapore and they told me.....according to the part number I gave them.....it's a part that never came to singapore before. It must be ordered thru the agent. And he told me that agent's price is very expensive.....about 250% profit from cost. So now I'm checking my other sources (overseas) to see if I can get my friends to buy it for me and bring it back. It's australia, and they love Mazdas.

 

[Assassin]

If you are really desperate, you might want to try the scrap yards to see if they have any Mazdas.

[Westwind]

You may want to try your luck at Regent Motor ? Laser and 323 share most the parts.

[Handsome]

KB

 

installed my broquet in S'pore from Universal sales guy

 

the guy that installed fixed another brand of fuel hose from broquet to the inlet.

 

so far no problem. the hose is made in USA

 

my car is M323 same as yours and also less than a year old. although i kinda of know that it would void some form of warranty, i took the risk as i believe mazda is very basic and mechanical, therefore should not spoil so easily.

 

the sales guy from broquet is Eugene Tan and i know he carries fuel hose in his car, for him to do installation as and when possible.

 

contact 9796 6796

 

call him, nice fellow, maybe can discuss and pay a cost fee for the hose

[Kianbeng]

ya....I know eugene also....just contact him few days back. I'll let him take a look at my car next week after the motorshow. He's busy at the motorshow now.

 

[Kianbeng]

hmm....so is it for the better/worse for your car after the installation?

 

How's your mileage too? Mine's a manual car, and being a very fuel conscious driver, roughly my car can reach 650 + - at full tank. I usually pump BP RON95. If in msia, I'll pump RON97. At most I go to msia once a week.....so maybe RON97 only makes up....say 15% of my petrol consumption?

 

kianbeng

[Kianbeng]

Good idea. I've thought of that as well.....but I felt it may be expensive too. Nonetheless I'll give it a try.

 

My overseas sources just replied to me. Damm.....seems like they have got a different part number for it....coz the part number I gave them....they can't find in their database.

[Kianbeng]

Ya....thought about that....coz I used to do that when I was in australia. But scrapped car yards in singapore seems to have lesser advertisements.....so sometimes....I'll have to go round and round just to find some special parts.

 

So, do you have any idea where I can find scrap car yards in singapore that specialises in Mazda?

 

In Australia, such shops advertise on the papers everday.....coz alot of people repair their own cars. In singapore, only mechanics find spare parts.....and furthermore, usually such mechanics have their own 2nd hand sources.

 

Only know that woodlands and sungai kadut have some....but not sure if they have Mazda's 323 one....and this model is so new....sigh. But there's a good chance that a 2 year old mazda may have the same part as well.....coz I believe such parts don't change so frequently.

[Assassin]

I think Super7 may have some contacts for scrap yards.

 

Here is a list of scrap yards from the OneMotoring web site, hope it helps.

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/vehDeReg/dereg_dreg_sy.asp

 

Cheers

[Handsome]

mine complicated story...1.6A

 

when collect car, was on steel wheels because sports/alloys no stock, was able to go 13.3 km/l but ave 12.8 km/l

 

when change to sports rim a month later, immediately went to install broquet, ave reading 12.3 km/l, complaint to Eugene after 1 month of usage, which he took out Broquet for me to test drive again, discovered

 

a. power loss without broquet (using shell 95)

b. milage went down to ave 11.5 km/l

c. suspect alloy rims heavier than steel rims and therefore the broquet positive effect cancelled heavy rims negative fuel consumption. (need verification when got time will weight alloy rims and tyre with spare steel rim and tyre)

 

then ask Eugene to install back, suddenly milage went to 13.4 km/l ...was very happy.

 

then played with grounding and magnet.

 

Shagmobil/Cool re-do my grounding (veri happy) engine went smooth

 

Installed computer hardisk magnet, suddenly power increase......but fuel economy went down to ave 12 km/l...got pissed and took out magnet (means that magnet cannot work together with broquet)

 

now with 5 spokes standard stock MM alloys rims + grounding + broquet ave 12.5 km/l which means about 530 km before light up

 

however do note that i do rev car quite high and do not drive conservatively as I always estimate time wrongly for appointments.

Edited November 20, 2002 by Handsome

[Kianbeng]

glad to find someone with similar car in MCF.

 

The tock steel wheels are damm heavy. But your alloys may not be lighter also. I changed to the Mazda offered 15" alloy from stamford tyres for mere $400. For that model, it's damm heavy. But I would take it as solid. Furthermore, I realise that this rim can tahan 850kg per wheel. When I took a quick look at other rims, some could only tahan 700++ kg. Being heavier.....I hope it's stronger as well (can prevent dings!)

 

You mentioned that Shagmobil/Cool redo the grounding for you. Do you mean, you have let someone else do the grounding in the first place? Or has it already be grounded from factory?

 

Oh....your mileage is 530km before lights up.... I didn't look at the lights....coz everytime when the lights go up, I know there's still alot of fuel in the car. Furthermore, the indicator usually haven't even reach the bottom of the scale yet when the lights go up.

 

Another thing is that....manual car's mileage is usually better than auto. So I would say that your mileage is quite good.

 

Would you mind if 1 day, we could arrange for a time/day where we can meet up for me to take a look at how your broquet is installed in your 323?

 

Thanks

 

kianbeng

[Guyver]

hmm......but now......maybe because mine's a new car...so even such simple fuel hose are specially designed.......damm! Need to pay $85 to buy the original. Basically it's just a nylon hose wrapped in rubber.

 

As for the insurance.....maybe because all the insurance companies just throw a blanket over such modifications. think I'll need to call up my insurance company to find out if it's ok. It's supposedly approved by LTA to be fitted to the car......supposedly......

 

Another thing is....the car's performance didn't drop after broquet installation. Infact it was more consistent whether I used RON92/95 or 98 now....

 

As for mileage, I can run to about 650kms on average. You can probably attribute this to my driving style perhaps. Furthermore it's a manual car....

 

I haven't really decide for this 323 now. Maybe I would really change back to the original hose.......but....my broquet will have to go. Infact broquet brought me too much benefits for my old car.....that's why I am finding it hard not to trust it again.

 

kianbeng

 

Actually our fuel line is a high pressure one... so that fuel line is a high pressure pipe... not just a nylon tube.

 

Yah... with Broquet... the only good thing is that it allows u to use RON92 even... other than that... i'm glad to let it go for the groundings & Apollo.... and i know it's hard for u to change your belief system.... after u get convinced about it... now to convinced u out of it.... it's very hard ..... just my 2 cents.

[Guyver]

I kinda regret now. Coz I ought to have installed it your way. ie. Get an additional hose. But it's just that when I asked my mechanic (msia) he felt......it looked like a normal hose to him......so we decided to cut it......since it'll be very long if we added one instead.

 

I've already called all the reputable mazda spare parts shop in singapore and they told me.....according to the part number I gave them.....it's a part that never came to singapore before. It must be ordered thru the agent. And he told me that agent's price is very expensive.....about 250% profit from cost. So now I'm checking my other sources (overseas) to see if I can get my friends to buy it for me and bring it back. It's australia, and they love Mazdas.

 

 

Wah!! to that extend ah!!... u good man!! ... full of contact..... but frankly... with all that effort.... really hope that u can find it.

 

But scrapyard is really a better place to find tho.