Mondeo Neutral Newbie November 14, 2002 Share November 14, 2002 Read an article from Autoexpress, interesting: Mitsubishi's Evo VII offers a sensational blend of power and grip, while Ford's Focus RS has proved you don't need all-wheel-drive to corner quickly. any comments & what's yr experiences/ ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seansene 1st Gear November 14, 2002 Share November 14, 2002 Being diplomatic, I'd say both are true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondeo Neutral Newbie November 14, 2002 Author Share November 14, 2002 To me, I lost fun on AWD, FWD sometime can give me a feel (slightly) for oversteer feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie November 14, 2002 Share November 14, 2002 Oversteer can be dangerous................ As I consider myself an average driver, I'd rather not have any surprises and prefer the 4WD, together with idiot proof gizmos like AYC, LSD, EBD, ABS etc. There was once that the 911 was so tail happy that it surprised quite a lot of owners, and most of the the surprises are not nice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondeo Neutral Newbie November 14, 2002 Author Share November 14, 2002 (edited) Can be danger & can be fun. Some kind of activity also danger but very fun Also got that idot what protection, but still got accident. Edited November 14, 2002 by Mondeo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie November 14, 2002 Share November 14, 2002 (edited) Know what you meant. Sitting a home, roof can also fall down! Still, I hate surprises. On track, can experiment but on public roads, better be sure. Edited November 14, 2002 by Mikeckchong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Neutral Newbie November 14, 2002 Share November 14, 2002 I bet you would love if this suprise :- Aria Giovanni walking in to your office seeking a full body check-up .... Boy would that not be a SUPRISE .... !!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie November 14, 2002 Share November 14, 2002 >>Aria Giovanni walking in to your office seeking a full body check-up .... THAT would be ultimate man.................. Dream on.......... [laugh] Aria......oh Aria! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presea 3rd Gear November 18, 2002 Share November 18, 2002 the 911s rear engined rear wheel drive layout + the "teardrop shape" is really dangerous for an average driver if he tails out because it creates a nasty lift off oversteer that could be uncorrectable at high speeds..... like the Audi TT problem during the initial batches......when travelling above 200kmh (Approx) FWD cars and 4WD are definitely much easier to handle (in that order) than any RWD car.... But for decent (above average) drivers, a Front/Mid/Rear engined Rear Wheel Drive car is actually the most fun.... I enjoyed many tailouts in a RWD Ford Falcon on a gravel road between Canberra and Katoomba (Blue Mountains). I have to induce oversteer with my FWD Presea and it is no where as fun... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie November 19, 2002 Share November 19, 2002 >>But for decent (above average) drivers, a Front/Mid/Rear engined Rear Wheel Drive car is actually the most fun.... I enjoyed many tailouts in a RWD Ford Falcon on a gravel road between Canberra and Katoomba (Blue Mountains). It would be fun if the road is wide and deserted. Then can try to drive like Colin McRae! But city driving is still a no no, IMO. Best place to enjoy would be a sandy gravel road where grip is less and oversteer can be induced at a relatively slower speed. Of course having 'botak' tyres helps in this instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoh Neutral Newbie November 19, 2002 Share November 19, 2002 (edited) Used to have lots of fun with "oversteer" driving in Michigan where there's plenty of snow and ice during the winter months. Loved making 'doughnuts' in the empty car park (car parks are really HUGE in the US) after a fresh snow-fall. Can only do this when no other cars around, and when its safe! On the road, I used to enjoy a Rover 220 turbo Coupe, which had 195 bhp (if I remember right) and had lots of difficulty keeping traction on its front wheels. Pressing too hard on the accelerator usually causes the front wheels to 'hop' as there's not enough weight to keep the wheels down. Started this 'bad habit' with a friend's Mini in the early days... However, like Mondeo said, having a light FWD can be fun with some oversteer on 'wet' or slippery surfaces. [DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME ] You've really got to have done it many times before and know the car's behaviour really well to try to push it. Remember, oversteer in FWD and oversteer in RWD are two totally different 'feels'. Otherwise, as Mike said, can cause surprises and disastrous results . Edited November 19, 2002 by Jgoh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondeo Neutral Newbie November 19, 2002 Author Share November 19, 2002 Hahaha, U also have fun experience of Oversteer on snow! I still remember the Opel got snow-race yearly, u can see those drivers drive striaght and slip across the corner and corner..FUN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super7 Turbocharged November 20, 2002 Share November 20, 2002 Know what you meant. Sitting a home, roof can also fall down! Still, I hate surprises. On track, can experiment but on public roads, better be sure. agree with both doc and mondeo.... depends what we want out of the car:- if you want a 'almost' fool-proof car for you to push n push n push, then go for one with all the gizmos.......... on the other hand, if you prefer improving/practising your skills and have no problems using abit of self-restraints while enjoying your drive (also knowing your limits and the car's), then a 'bare' car will suit you like rubber suits the 'tool'......... eg you can wear all the harnesses/protection gears to go boxing, or you box with bare body........... which way would you choose??? cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super7 Turbocharged November 20, 2002 Share November 20, 2002 I bet you would love if this suprise :- Aria Giovanni walking in to your office seeking a full body check-up .... Boy would that not be a SUPRISE .... !!!!! Oooii, this is surprise of, not the 3rd or 4th kind, but the "X" kind man........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie November 20, 2002 Share November 20, 2002 >>you can wear all the harnesses/protection gears to go boxing, or you box with bare body........... which way would you choose??? I prefer to make lurve, not war! If die die must be war, then mud wrestling is worth considering. And of course with Aria at the other end! Well, it would be ideal to have a car to suit every occasion! One for the track, one for the road and one to slide all over the place in gravel! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super7 Turbocharged November 20, 2002 Share November 20, 2002 Mud wrestling with Aria???............. hmmmm, buy i prefer asian leh..... ..... dun wanna compete with you and b0obsie........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie November 20, 2002 Share November 20, 2002 Asian? No problemo, Jun Kusanagi! Boobsie's favourite Asian is Anna Ohura. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemason Neutral Newbie November 20, 2002 Share November 20, 2002 oh yeah....here we go again ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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