song77 2nd Gear May 22, 2018 Share May 22, 2018 Can anyone explain to me the logic of this device? Plug at cigarette point could stablize current? " (Plug at Cigarette Lighter Point)Simply plug to reduce current noise, stabilizes voltage and allowing ECU to works efficiently, improve fuel economy and less emission. This unit of v.s. can be easily unplugged and use it in another car. Recommended for below 1.6Lission. This unit of v.s. can be easily unplugged and use it in another car. Recommended for below 1.6L " ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic June 13, 2018 Share June 13, 2018 Electrical snake oil Admittedly, got suckered into trying a raizin pivot VS during the early days of car ownership.... All I can say is the mind is a powerful tool when it comes to imagining and self justification. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 Those audiophiles will tell you got diff. The sudden power surge due to the subwoofer kicking in with the, thum thum thum thum... will draw a lot of power. This device will reduce the surge. If you are running hardly any electrical load in your car you can't tell the diff. This is what I'm told. I just shrug my shoulders coz I'm not an audiophile. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 (edited) Electrical snake oil Admittedly, got suckered into trying a raizin pivot VS during the early days of car ownership.... All I can say is the mind is a powerful tool when it comes to imagining and self justification. Haha . Seriously i was trying to learn how amazing the device is but your one statement spoil my reading of the whole thread. And the way you put it is very funny. Edited June 14, 2018 by Ct3833 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 Electrical snake oil Admittedly, got suckered into trying a raizin pivot VS during the early days of car ownership.... All I can say is the mind is a powerful tool when it comes to imagining and self justification. The only reason it is electrical snake oil is that you use it on a new car without deterioration of grounding. It is useful for cars more than 10 years old when grounding has deteriorated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 The only reason it is electrical snake oil is that you use it on a new car without deterioration of grounding. It is useful for cars more than 10 years old when grounding has deteriorated. Maybe so. Used it on my dad's 7yr old sonata.It does feel different for the first few drive... Then it wears off. As said, probably cost too much for a temporary mind job. Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 Maybe so. Used it on my dad's 7yr old sonata. It does feel different for the first few drive... Then it wears off. As said, probably cost too much for a temporary mind job. Lol Similar to home voltage stabliizer, we don't need it here. However, it will have different impact in say, Malaysia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 The simple formula is V=IR. You have to get the value of R correct for benefits. For R, research on the concept behind Z-Stab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discoburg Supersonic June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 Wah, Z-stab is like 2004 The simple formula is V=IR. You have to get the value of R correct for benefits. For R, research on the concept behind Z-Stab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 Wah, Z-stab is like 2004 Eh.... really hor ! V=IR oso beri long ago one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discoburg Supersonic June 14, 2018 Share June 14, 2018 Eh.... really hor ! V=IR oso beri long ago one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
song77 2nd Gear June 15, 2018 Share June 15, 2018 (edited) Electrical snake oil Admittedly, got suckered into trying a raizin pivot VS during the early days of car ownership.... All I can say is the mind is a powerful tool when it comes to imagining and self justification. Maybe should buy one of those cigratte lighter VS, dissemble it and do circuit tracing. lol. Serkali lead to nowhere. Edited June 15, 2018 by song77 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic June 15, 2018 Share June 15, 2018 (edited) your current is unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - buy product 1 your voltage is unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - buy product 2 your power is unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - buy product 3 your engine is unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - buy product 4 you are unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - change driver by the way, after decades of R&D, automotive manufacturers, with tons of automotive engineers with big degrees, sure are lousy, they can't even come out with a simple Voltage Stabilizer and needs ah kao, ah lian to invent one. Edited June 15, 2018 by Kb27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic June 15, 2018 Share June 15, 2018 Those audiophiles will tell you got diff. The sudden power surge due to the subwoofer kicking in with the, thum thum thum thum... will draw a lot of power. This device will reduce the surge. If you are running hardly any electrical load in your car you can't tell the diff. This is what I'm told. I just shrug my shoulders coz I'm not an audiophile. From my rudimentary understanding of ICE scene, they install capacitors to create a buffer reservoir of power run those high powered subs. Not those small puny ones that they install in the engine bay which do nothing for the modern unmodified cars. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic June 15, 2018 Share June 15, 2018 (edited) For car audiophiles, the problem is one of lacking in power. So they looked to big caps to "stabilize" the power when it's dynamically needed. But it's only effective for a short period of time, as caps can only hold so much juice. A 12V system in a car, limits the amount of power that can be generated, compared to a residential/commercial setting of 230Vac. The 12V source in a car comes predominantly from the alternator, how big can you sized the alternator, how big the cable is, and how much space it occupies. It is supported by the battery when the power output hits the limit. All these are real technical constraints. If you think putting a couple of small caps (VS) can heal the world's ills, think again. Edited June 15, 2018 by Kb27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear June 15, 2018 Share June 15, 2018 your current is unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - buy product 1 your voltage is unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - buy product 2 your power is unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - buy product 3 your engine is unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - buy product 4 you are unstable, we need to stabilize it for optimum performance - change driver by the way, after decades of R&D, automotive manufacturers, with tons of automotive engineers with big degrees, sure are lousy, they can't even come out with a simple Voltage Stabilizer and needs ah kao, ah lian to invent one. Actually, I think most get VS for enhancements other than voltage stablization e.g. increase power, improve fuel consumption, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetmarket Neutral Newbie August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 I've heard workshop not recommending to install these voltage stabilizers as they are prone to overheat and catches fire. Don't know how true is it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas 5th Gear August 31, 2018 Share August 31, 2018 I used to put this for my old car. Not an expert, but from a user pov I think it works on older battery and light flickers less at traffic lights, but then why not spend on a new battery instead? So this to me is more like a bandaid, temp fix my problem. For new cars, I think warranty will be voided. As for catch fire, it's possible if it's not installed properly and that includes any electrical installations. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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