Who's fastest: F1 or Superbike???

[Super7]

Any idea which achieves the fastest lap time???... and sprint 0-100???

 

i know F1 is capable of 2 sec+ for 0-100, what about the 500cc or the superbike???

 

for fastest lap time, i guess the bike wins hands down?? true/false??

 

i also solute bike racers coz they dun use too much electronic gadgets to help, unlike the F1 monkeys who use trackcontrol, launchcontrol, etc etc.....

 

am i wrong??, half wrong??...

 

cheers

[Norman]

Can't find any statistics, but found an intersting interview with the legendary Wayne Gardner (former 500cc GP winner) who was in the Japanese GT Championship (dunno now)

 

Some interesting comments comparing laptimes, top speed and braking...look at "Have you done a lap time at Suzuka in a car faster than you did on a bike?"

 

http://www.amasuperbike.com/2002-Jul/gardn...00interview.htm

[Hitman]

They are quite similar ... a test was done before by TOP GEAR.

 

SuperBikes 900 cc - 1100 cc can take off as fast as an F1 car .... remember F1 (3000 cc). 0-100 in 2secs in very possible.

 

But depends a lot on track ..... Silverstone and Monza with long straights - F1 WIN as higher top end speed. Tracks like Hungaroring, Austria - its the bikes as their braking is much later than F1 and their take off much faster, even cornering, they can go faster.

 

Bikers are daredevils .... however, they are found to be safer than in an F1 car. If bikers fall, they throw their bikes away and slide .... F1 drivers are stuck and is practically a passenger in a 200kph impact.

Edited August 20, 2003 by Hitman

[Super7]

thanks.....

 

was reading something in a auto mag on experience driving the 3-time winner of the Le Mans 24-hour race:- the Audi sports car:-

 

the braking power is such that it stops the car from near 300kph in faster deceleration than the 0-100 (in reverse way) so much so that the driver feels being suffocated at the chest due to the immense G-force in deceleration.....

 

and at 260kph the acceleration is still straining his back painfully as he pushes the car in 5/6th gear on the main straight....

 

the grip is so good that coming out of the corner in any gear other than 1st n 2nd, even if he floors the accelerator, the wheels may spin a little but the tail just simply refuses to break.....

 

at the end of the straight when he hits the brake pedal hard, the instant braking is like throwing his whole body against a brickwall at 300kph++

 

due to the huge sideway G-force, as he takes corners one after another at speed in excess of 180kph-240kph, his neck and shoulders are constantly being thrown left n right against the side walls of the cockpit ....... damn painful...

 

not for the faint-hearted i guess.........

Edited August 20, 2003 by Super7

[Super7]

hmmmm.... true, true about the safety aspect

[Silver_z]

Modified SnowMobile. Use to frequent the drag strip when I was in states. And to my astonishment, the converted snowmobile for road, made a 6 secs + on quarter mile(0-400m).

[Presea]

There was a comparison done not too long ago (can't remember which mag) between a roadbike (Yamaha R1) vs Formula 1 car vs McLaren F1 road car.

 

It was more of a mathematical comparison (using power/weight ratios, acceleration, speed and distance formulas), but I'm sure if they managed to put all 3 vehicles on a runway, it would be one hell of a test.

 

In their calculation, the bike and the Formula 1 car were neck and neck from 0-100kmh (2.6s) and even up to 300kmh, the bike was always no less than 10m behind. The McLaren F1 roadcar was a couple car lengths (10m+) behind both at 100kmh, and by 200kmh, it was actually accelerating as quickly as the R1, and by 300kmh, it started make up for lost ground, and as the R1 reached it's terminal speed (about 315), the McLaren would pass it and carry on to it's top speed of 370kmh.

 

As this comparison had the gearing of the formula 1 car that was meant for Silverstone, it would have topped out at 340kmh anyway, so the McLaren would have caught up eventually.

Apparently, for certain slower speed tracks, the formula 1's acceleration would be as low as 2.3s for the century sprint, so a lot of this depends on the setup.

 

It would be interesting to compare a WRC car too.

 

I remember one particular Saab 93 (racing at Pikes Peak) pushing out some 600+bhp could do the 0-100 in under 3s, ...offroad.

[Cloverleaf]

Any idea which achieves the fastest lap time???... and sprint 0-100???

 

i know F1 is capable of 2 sec+ for 0-100, what about the 500cc or the superbike???

 

for fastest lap time, i guess the bike wins hands down?? true/false??

 

i also solute bike racers coz they dun use too much electronic gadgets to help, unlike the F1 monkeys who use trackcontrol, launchcontrol, etc etc.....

 

am i wrong??, half wrong??...

 

cheers

 

i would say half wrong.

 

for sprint and straight line speed, F1 and race bikes clocked very similar times. the main problem for the bikes is they can't put the full power down properly due to lack of traction.

 

for lap times in a circuit, F1 cars will beat race bikes hands down because of much higher cornering speed, 4 wheels compared to 2 wheels traction.

 

just take sepang lap times for example, fastest lap of F1 car is almost 30sec faster than fastest lap time by the Moto GP bikes.

[Super7]

perhaps in order to increase traction/grip, bikes may come with GT-wing, or some sort??

[Norman]

then can really fly