Ginyu 5th Gear January 15 Share January 15 (edited) On 1/14/2025 at 7:54 PM, Rskc said: What the chinese are doing is not only to EV industry. It is now fittest survives. You may say copy but copy also need skills to copy. I am a conti fan for decades and even I am struggling to see the relevance of paying premium to germans now when we can get chinese EV 50/50 weight distribution with RWD at a fraction of contis price. Copy? Yes, maybe, but I think they did copy extremely well, even beating the original. At the end of day, it is still what a consumer get most from the dollar they spend. I fear for the germans. Safety? Just go for 5 stars euro encap tested chinese EV lor. Not surprise to see more switch from sausage to dumplings. German EV cost around 100k more with similar specs but does not justify other than its long time reputation and badge. Besides these contis are also shaky, look at stellantis for example🤣 Edited January 15 by Ginyu ↡ Advertisement 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 10:32 AM, Ginyu said: Not surprise to see more switch from sausage to dumplings. German EV cost around 100k more with similar specs but does not justify other than its long time reputation and badge. Besides these contis are also shaky, look at stellantis for example🤣 Cheap German got some buttons. Expensive German got a lot more buttons. That’s the difference 🤭 ps PRC looks cheap without buttons just like Tesla 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 11:43 AM, inlinesix said: Cheap German got some buttons. Expensive German got a lot more buttons. That’s the difference 🤭 ps PRC looks cheap without buttons just like Tesla Not anymore. Very ex bratwurst now also only touch screens to save costs. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator January 15 Share January 15 On 1/14/2025 at 7:59 PM, jhnology said: why someone is kneeling down on the bottom left? Maybe kneeled down to beg the one in the driver seat NOT to get a Altis? Girl (kneeling by the door): Please, tolong, can we look at something nicer and better? Guy (in the driver seat): But hor people tell me Toyota very reliable one, can last long long time, never service also won't spoil one... 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged January 15 Share January 15 (edited) On 1/13/2025 at 2:58 PM, Davidklt said: To be fair, it has been a deliberate strategy by Toyota to not focus on EV and adopt a look and see approach first. They were convinced that hybrid is a better approach in terms of long term reliability, recyclability and drivers’ downtime. This is the official media friendly explanation. The real truth is that Toyota has sunk too much $$$ betting on hydrogen as the next big thing after ICE, but failed big time as Tesla/China EVs blitzed the world first. Now, since hydrogen has no global traction, they need to catch up on EV tech but at this moment still far behind the Tesla and Chinese EVs. Toyota BZ4x SUV is a failure globally. Look at what Toyota has done in China and you will realize their strategy to rely just on hybrid is bulls**t. They have to leverage on BYD's low cost batteries to put into their BZ3 sedan meant for sale only in China. What is stopping them for converting this to right-hand drive and make it a global model? I'm sure TMAP and BMS will be happy to sell this in Singapore except they will be greedy on their pricing as they are "Toyota". https://electrek.co/2023/03/03/first-toyota-bz3-ev-co-developed-with-byd-rolls-off-the-line/ Edited January 15 by Lethalstrike 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic January 15 Author Share January 15 I am on Toyota's side with Hybrid. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invigorated Supercharged January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 12:28 PM, Carbon82 said: Maybe kneeled down to beg the one in the driver seat NOT get a Altis? Girl (kneeling by the door): Please, tolong, can we look at something nicer and better? Guy (in the driver seat): But hor people tell me Toyota very reliable one, can last long long time, never service also won't spoil one... this is a very clean version. If a girl kneels down like that in front of me, I will be scared. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 2:14 PM, Lethalstrike said: This is the official media friendly explanation. The real truth is that Toyota has sunk too much $$$ betting on hydrogen as the next big thing after ICE, but failed big time as Tesla/China EVs blitzed the world first. Now, since hydrogen has no global traction, they need to catch up on EV tech but at this moment still far behind the Tesla and Chinese EVs. Toyota BZ4x SUV is a failure globally. Look at what Toyota has done in China and you will realize their strategy to rely just on hybrid is bulls**t. They have to leverage on BYD's low cost batteries to put into their BZ3 sedan meant for sale only in China. What is stopping them for converting this to right-hand drive and make it a global model? I'm sure TMAP and BMS will be happy to sell this in Singapore except they will be greedy on their pricing as they are "Toyota". https://electrek.co/2023/03/03/first-toyota-bz3-ev-co-developed-with-byd-rolls-off-the-line/ The joke is Toyota was an early investor in Tesla. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Turbocharged January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 11:43 AM, inlinesix said: Cheap German got some buttons. Expensive German got a lot more buttons. That’s the difference 🤭 ps PRC looks cheap without buttons just like Tesla got aftermarket physical buttons cluster already when all buttons, people want touch screen when all on touch screen, people want buttons really hard to please 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 2:24 PM, Mockngbrd said: I am on Toyota's side with Hybrid. I also tink haibrick is safer...lower anxiety...😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic January 15 Author Share January 15 in the future, ICE will be luxury 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Turbocharged January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 3:22 PM, Mockngbrd said: in the future, ICE will be luxury like the horses last time now 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 3:22 PM, Mockngbrd said: in the future, ICE will be luxury Now price already luxury. FL5: $300+k GR Yaris: $370k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxcvb Turbocharged January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 3:32 PM, Gnahp said: like the horses last time now This is the most environmentally-friendly mode of transport. No smoke, no petrol, no battery, no waste. Just need water and grains. The horse after scrapped can use to fertilise plants or trees. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Turbocharged January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 3:41 PM, Zxcvb said: This is the most environmentally-friendly mode of transport. No smoke, no petrol, no battery, no waste. Just need water and grains. The horse after scrapped can use to fertilise plants or trees. I rather sniffing exhaust fumes 🤣 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 3:41 PM, Zxcvb said: This is the most environmentally-friendly mode of transport. No smoke, no petrol, no battery, no waste. Just need water and grains. The horse after scrapped can use to fertilise plants or trees. Hoho...u haven't gone near horse carriages Pengsan 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 2:46 PM, mersaylee said: I also tink haibrick is safer...lower anxiety...😁 When iphone came out, some oso say that they will stick to Blackberry coz got keypad..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic January 15 Share January 15 On 1/15/2025 at 4:34 PM, Soya said: When iphone came out, some oso say that they will stick to Blackberry coz got keypad..... A coworker once said die die also won't get a handphone...after about 2 years later...the phone only got bigger and bigger each time...becos started to have lao hua oredi...😂 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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