Carbon82 Moderator October 18 Share October 18 You are forgiven if you think I have mistaken a Kia for BMW. Honestly, this new Gran Coupé is one of the better looking BMW in recent years. The 3 Series had been the entry-level BMW sedan for decades before the 2 Series Gran Coupe arrived in 2019. The luxury brand was criticized for cheapening out by introducing a compact sedan on a front-wheel-drive platform. Despite the controversy, the formula must’ve worked commercially. At the end of the business day, that’s all that really matters. As such, the “F44” gets a direct successor. Meet the new “F74.” The not-so-compact model now measures 4,546 mm (+20 mm) in length, 1,800 mm in width, and 1,445 mm (+25 mm) in height. It carries over the wheelbase of its predecessor, so the distance between the axles remains at 2,670 mm. While the exterior is more of a facelift aka Life Cycle Impulse, the cabin has been overhauled. The 2 Series Gran Coupe was one of the few remaining models with the old iDrive setup and plenty of physical buttons. Its replacement embraces minimalism with a dual-screen layout and limited switchgear. Much like in the 1 Series, X1, X2, and 2 Series Active Tourer, the rotary knob is sadly gone. The simplified dashboard accommodates a 10.25-inch driver’s display and a 10.7-inch touchscreen. If the interior looks instantly familiar, it’s because the latest 1 Series is almost identical on the inside. Just like many recent BMWs and MINIs, the cabin completely does away with leather. This Veganza upholstery can be combined with Alcantara if you go for the M Sport Package or the hot M235. The base model in Europe has a three-cylinder, 1.5-liter turbocharged gasoline engine with 154 HP (115 KW) and 240 Nm of torque. Because it employs a mild-hybrid setup, total output is slightly higher, at 168 HP (125 KW) and 280 Nm. The 2025 BMW 220 Gran Coupe takes 7.9 seconds to reach 100 km/h and tops out at 230 km/h. (but unlikely we will get it here). For Americans, they will get a 228 xDrive that sends 241 HP and 400 Nm to both axles. It’s enough muscle for a 0 to 60 mph (96 km/h) run in 5.8 seconds and a maximum speed of 209 km/h. With performance tires, the top speed increases to 250 km/h. The M235 has a larger four-cylinder engine on both sides of the pond. However, the 2.0-liter unit is downgraded in Europe, therefore echoing the other M Performance compact cars. On the Old Continent, you’ll have to make do with 296 HP (221 KW) whereas Americans get 312 HP (233 KW). Both flavors of the sporty sedan have 400 Nm on tap. In European guise, the M235 needs 4.9 seconds to reach 100 km/h. Its American cousin takes 4.7 seconds to hit the same speed. Both max out at 250 km/h (electronically controlled). Regardless of engine and continent, all variants of the 2 Series Gran Coupe are exclusively available with a seven-speed, dual-clutch automatic transmission. The “F74” marks the end of the six-speed manual, which BMW had offered in Europe on the lesser-powered versions. Consequently, yet another model with a stick shift bites the dust. Although it debuts in the same week as the 2024 Paris Motor Show, the new 2 Gran Coupe isn’t in France’s capital these days. Deliveries to buyers won’t kick off until March 2025, after production starts in Leipzig. BMW estimates the US, Germany, the UK, Japan, and Australia will be the largest markets. For China, there are plans to launch a long-wheelbase model early next year as the “F78.” The newcomer will replace the 1 Series Sedan (“F52”) discontinued last year. ↡ Advertisement 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear October 18 Share October 18 Looks decent overall, but i find the new design language of the headlights looking better on a wider sedan like a 5 series over a 1 or 2 series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 18 Share October 18 Made in Mexico or Germany.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturtles 6th Gear October 19 Share October 19 On 10/18/2024 at 11:17 PM, Carbon82 said: You are forgiven if you think I have mistaken a Kia for BMW. Honestly, this new Gran Coupé is one of the better looking BMW in recent years. The 3 Series had been the entry-level BMW sedan for decades before the 2 Series Gran Coupe arrived in 2019. The luxury brand was criticized for cheapening out by introducing a compact sedan on a front-wheel-drive platform. Despite the controversy, the formula must’ve worked commercially. At the end of the business day, that’s all that really matters. As such, the “F44” gets a direct successor. Meet the new “F74.” The not-so-compact model now measures 4,546 mm (+20 mm) in length, 1,800 mm in width, and 1,445 mm (+25 mm) in height. It carries over the wheelbase of its predecessor, so the distance between the axles remains at 2,670 mm. While the exterior is more of a facelift aka Life Cycle Impulse, the cabin has been overhauled. The 2 Series Gran Coupe was one of the few remaining models with the old iDrive setup and plenty of physical buttons. Its replacement embraces minimalism with a dual-screen layout and limited switchgear. Much like in the 1 Series, X1, X2, and 2 Series Active Tourer, the rotary knob is sadly gone. The simplified dashboard accommodates a 10.25-inch driver’s display and a 10.7-inch touchscreen. If the interior looks instantly familiar, it’s because the latest 1 Series is almost identical on the inside. Just like many recent BMWs and MINIs, the cabin completely does away with leather. This Veganza upholstery can be combined with Alcantara if you go for the M Sport Package or the hot M235. The base model in Europe has a three-cylinder, 1.5-liter turbocharged gasoline engine with 154 HP (115 KW) and 240 Nm of torque. Because it employs a mild-hybrid setup, total output is slightly higher, at 168 HP (125 KW) and 280 Nm. The 2025 BMW 220 Gran Coupe takes 7.9 seconds to reach 100 km/h and tops out at 230 km/h. (but unlikely we will get it here). For Americans, they will get a 228 xDrive that sends 241 HP and 400 Nm to both axles. It’s enough muscle for a 0 to 60 mph (96 km/h) run in 5.8 seconds and a maximum speed of 209 km/h. With performance tires, the top speed increases to 250 km/h. The M235 has a larger four-cylinder engine on both sides of the pond. However, the 2.0-liter unit is downgraded in Europe, therefore echoing the other M Performance compact cars. On the Old Continent, you’ll have to make do with 296 HP (221 KW) whereas Americans get 312 HP (233 KW). Both flavors of the sporty sedan have 400 Nm on tap. In European guise, the M235 needs 4.9 seconds to reach 100 km/h. Its American cousin takes 4.7 seconds to hit the same speed. Both max out at 250 km/h (electronically controlled). Regardless of engine and continent, all variants of the 2 Series Gran Coupe are exclusively available with a seven-speed, dual-clutch automatic transmission. The “F74” marks the end of the six-speed manual, which BMW had offered in Europe on the lesser-powered versions. Consequently, yet another model with a stick shift bites the dust. Although it debuts in the same week as the 2024 Paris Motor Show, the new 2 Gran Coupe isn’t in France’s capital these days. Deliveries to buyers won’t kick off until March 2025, after production starts in Leipzig. BMW estimates the US, Germany, the UK, Japan, and Australia will be the largest markets. For China, there are plans to launch a long-wheelbase model early next year as the “F78.” The newcomer will replace the 1 Series Sedan (“F52”) discontinued last year. Looks like a Civic... but its got a better badge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inlinefour Twincharged October 19 Share October 19 4GC still better with the liftback boot 🫣🫣🫣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic October 19 Share October 19 A Cerato w a bmw badge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic October 19 Share October 19 On 10/18/2024 at 11:17 PM, Carbon82 said: You are forgiven if you think I have mistaken a Kia for BMW. Honestly, this new Gran Coupé is one of the better looking BMW in recent years. The 3 Series had been the entry-level BMW sedan for decades before the 2 Series Gran Coupe arrived in 2019. The luxury brand was criticized for cheapening out by introducing a compact sedan on a front-wheel-drive platform. Despite the controversy, the formula must’ve worked commercially. At the end of the business day, that’s all that really matters. As such, the “F44” gets a direct successor. Meet the new “F74.” The not-so-compact model now measures 4,546 mm (+20 mm) in length, 1,800 mm in width, and 1,445 mm (+25 mm) in height. It carries over the wheelbase of its predecessor, so the distance between the axles remains at 2,670 mm. While the exterior is more of a facelift aka Life Cycle Impulse, the cabin has been overhauled. The 2 Series Gran Coupe was one of the few remaining models with the old iDrive setup and plenty of physical buttons. Its replacement embraces minimalism with a dual-screen layout and limited switchgear. Much like in the 1 Series, X1, X2, and 2 Series Active Tourer, the rotary knob is sadly gone. The simplified dashboard accommodates a 10.25-inch driver’s display and a 10.7-inch touchscreen. If the interior looks instantly familiar, it’s because the latest 1 Series is almost identical on the inside. Just like many recent BMWs and MINIs, the cabin completely does away with leather. This Veganza upholstery can be combined with Alcantara if you go for the M Sport Package or the hot M235. The base model in Europe has a three-cylinder, 1.5-liter turbocharged gasoline engine with 154 HP (115 KW) and 240 Nm of torque. Because it employs a mild-hybrid setup, total output is slightly higher, at 168 HP (125 KW) and 280 Nm. The 2025 BMW 220 Gran Coupe takes 7.9 seconds to reach 100 km/h and tops out at 230 km/h. (but unlikely we will get it here). For Americans, they will get a 228 xDrive that sends 241 HP and 400 Nm to both axles. It’s enough muscle for a 0 to 60 mph (96 km/h) run in 5.8 seconds and a maximum speed of 209 km/h. With performance tires, the top speed increases to 250 km/h. The M235 has a larger four-cylinder engine on both sides of the pond. However, the 2.0-liter unit is downgraded in Europe, therefore echoing the other M Performance compact cars. On the Old Continent, you’ll have to make do with 296 HP (221 KW) whereas Americans get 312 HP (233 KW). Both flavors of the sporty sedan have 400 Nm on tap. In European guise, the M235 needs 4.9 seconds to reach 100 km/h. Its American cousin takes 4.7 seconds to hit the same speed. Both max out at 250 km/h (electronically controlled). Regardless of engine and continent, all variants of the 2 Series Gran Coupe are exclusively available with a seven-speed, dual-clutch automatic transmission. The “F74” marks the end of the six-speed manual, which BMW had offered in Europe on the lesser-powered versions. Consequently, yet another model with a stick shift bites the dust. Although it debuts in the same week as the 2024 Paris Motor Show, the new 2 Gran Coupe isn’t in France’s capital these days. Deliveries to buyers won’t kick off until March 2025, after production starts in Leipzig. BMW estimates the US, Germany, the UK, Japan, and Australia will be the largest markets. For China, there are plans to launch a long-wheelbase model early next year as the “F78.” The newcomer will replace the 1 Series Sedan (“F52”) discontinued last year. the 35 in the M235 is smaller. easy to remove and TADA! becum M2 riaoz whoooooshhhhh 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 19 Share October 19 On 10/19/2024 at 12:19 PM, Theoldjaffa said: the 35 in the M235 is smaller. easy to remove and TADA! becum M2 riaoz whoooooshhhhh Immediately know that it is fake🤭 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 19 Share October 19 On 10/19/2024 at 12:19 PM, Theoldjaffa said: the 35 in the M235 is smaller. easy to remove and TADA! becum M2 riaoz whoooooshhhhh Real M2 is 2 Doors only,even my F22 M240i,if i remove the 40i,People can see the difference. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic October 19 Share October 19 On 10/19/2024 at 3:51 PM, ER-3682 said: Real M2 is 2 Doors only,even my F22 M240i,if i remove the 40i,People can see the difference. But most won’t. Especially gers 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator October 19 Author Share October 19 On 10/19/2024 at 12:25 AM, Rickster said: Looks decent overall, but i find the new design language of the headlights looking better on a wider sedan like a 5 series over a 1 or 2 series. This is the first thing that pop up in my mind when I read your post. On 10/19/2024 at 7:17 AM, ER-3682 said: Made in Mexico or Germany.? Uncle Roger: "Aiya, you never read his post? Carbon82 mentioned that the car will be manufactured Leipzig (Germany)." BTW, uncle Roger is my Secretarial assistant, hired by my boss @Gnahp On 10/19/2024 at 12:19 PM, Theoldjaffa said: the 35 in the M235 is smaller. easy to remove and TADA! becum M2 riaoz whoooooshhhhh Like this? On 10/19/2024 at 3:51 PM, ER-3682 said: Real M2 is 2 Doors only,even my F22 M240i,if i remove the 40i,People can see the difference. Only petrol head like us can tell the differences at one glance. Many cannot even tell what is the diff between 216i and M2. Most young punks will judge the car by the sportiness, rim size, number of exhaust tip / tailpipe, etc. For me, M235i is already cream of the crop, don't need to spend extra effort, time or $$$ to upgrade it. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 19 Share October 19 35 is top of line FWD. ///M still top of the line for RWD. The gap btw Mx40 and///M is getting narrower 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic October 19 Share October 19 Still got ppl interested in such cars? Tink an entry level MG4 EV will probably outrun this Kia M235... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged October 20 Share October 20 The tail lights a little boh geh….💁🏻 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kobayashiGT Internal Moderator October 21 Share October 21 On 10/21/2024 at 12:31 AM, Jamesc said: Did the Kia designer went back to BMW to work? 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 21 Share October 21 On 10/21/2024 at 2:21 PM, kobayashiGT said: Did the Kia designer went back to BMW to work? 😁 Kia Designer is from Audi,if i not wrong. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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