CNA Explains: Why are people rioting across the UK?

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On 8/7/2024 at 4:36 PM, Lala81 said:

There has been building discontent against too much immigration there changing the social fabric of European/British society. 
Douglas Murray is a very eloquent speaker on that part. 

With the new  CCP style curbs on speech supposedly  being rolled out... folks like Murray , JK Rowling etc... even the late Christopher Hitchens ... could be in serious danger. 

But the thing getting  people fired up is that its apparently ok for non whites to wave Hamas,  isis flags openly and call for genocide.

And fella like Yusuf Hamza continues at the highest level. 🤔

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/police-scotland-4000-complaints-humza-yousaf-hate-crime-law/

 

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On 8/7/2024 at 5:36 PM, yishunite said:

Btw u look at the channel's logo in top left corner... neonazi logo leh. You sure u ok or not watching too much of this?

Dunno what that channel is . You guessing too much. 

Just search YouTube and It literally is just the shortest video of just Hamza saying what he said in Scottish parliament that got him exposed and been reported in MSM too ... as first minister back then🤦‍♂️

 

 

 

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On 8/7/2024 at 6:07 PM, yishunite said:

Well idk anything about this guy except from his name looks Muslim... and all the sites and people u named are antiMuslim activists and extremist. Good way for them to tear UK society apart but stay the fk away from Sg pls

Its kinda important to know the Hamza saga to understand the underlying social discord there. 

And you are missing the essence of why Singapore today is different from why things are breaking down there. 

Each society sets it's own level of comfort. But that level MUST apply equally to all citizens AND immigrants. Hamza as a First Minister is a example of the perceived two tier policing that is breaking things up there. There's lessons for us there too.

 

 

[Voodooman]

On 8/7/2024 at 4:29 PM, Lala81 said:

There are serious social problems in the UK. Their economy got whacked up good by the GFC in 2008 and they've never recovered. 
Privatisation of govt companies by Tatcher, manufacturing jobs loss to East Europe/other countries and automation hurt a lot of working class folk just like it did in the Rust belt and etc. London attracting lot of high paying jobs and financal nexus for Europe hid the rot setting in the rest of the country. 

That was a major factor in rejecting Europe in Brexit though that was manipulated by the Leave side. 

The Cost of living crisis has hit UK the worst among europeans. 

Dunno much about the riots and the welfare class there. But there's major problems there. I don't think their social benefits are that high.

Don't make it seem like only the minorities are suffering. There are plenty plenty of white, dirt poor Brits and Scots. 

UK unemployment rate is a reasonably low 4+% unlike in other rotting European cities but if you talk to the average Brits (whatever the race or origin) on the ground, they will tell you there are still opportunities/ jobs but it just doesn’t pay enough with rental doubling/ tripling and the cost of living so high they are struggling to make ends meet.   Lots of underemployment. The Sri Lankan waiter serving us in London (who spoke perfect English) has a master degree in engineering but can’t find a decent engineering role. It is no wonder Sunak was kicked out.

Interesting observation that may not be representative, the colored blue collar immigrants blamed Brexit. The blue collar East European immigrants blamed the Muslim. Everyone is finding someone to blame as they are simply powerless to do anything. 

The Great Empire had overseas colonies to exploit during colonial times, building the world’s first subway in the world but look at their rail system now.  They got complacent just when the competition was heating up. 

[Lala81]

On 8/7/2024 at 9:58 PM, Voodooman said:

UK unemployment rate is a reasonably low 4+% unlike in other rotting European cities but if you talk to the average Brits (whatever the race or origin) on the ground, they will tell you there are still opportunities/ jobs but it just doesn’t pay enough with rental doubling/ tripling and the cost of living so high they are struggling to make ends meet.   Lots of underemployment. The Sri Lankan waiter serving us in London (who spoke perfect English) has a master degree in engineering but can’t find a decent engineering role. It is no wonder Sunak was kicked out.

Interesting observation that may not be representative, the colored blue collar immigrants blamed Brexit. The blue collar East European immigrants blamed the Muslim. Everyone is finding someone to blame as they are simply powerless to do anything. 

The Great Empire had overseas colonies to exploit during colonial times, building the world’s first subway in the world but look at their rail system now.  They got complacent just when the competition was heating up. 

Yeah that's my sense. Lots of people are gainfully employed but they are all being crushed by the COL. For example, the BNO hk found jobs with not much difficulty. But there's few high paying jobs like they were used to HK. 

Some suggest that the boris govt reason to accept BNO HK immigrants was to solve a blue collar labour crunch happening due to brexit. 

Teachers, nurses should be solid middle class jobs, but wage freezes and austerity make their pay paltry in comparison. 

Gas, groceries, the need to rent all add up. 

With brexit the red tape surrounding Europe, for biz who serve Europe, doesn't make sense to only service local economy.

Almost 1/3 of pubs shut down since 2020. 

Ha thats serious stuff for the brits. 

 

Edited August 7 by Lala81

[Sosaria]

On 8/7/2024 at 9:58 PM, Voodooman said:

UK unemployment rate is a reasonably low 4+% unlike in other rotting European cities but if you talk to the average Brits (whatever the race or origin) on the ground, they will tell you there are still opportunities/ jobs but it just doesn’t pay enough with rental doubling/ tripling and the cost of living so high they are struggling to make ends meet.   Lots of underemployment. The Sri Lankan waiter serving us in London (who spoke perfect English) has a master degree in engineering but can’t find a decent engineering role. It is no wonder Sunak was kicked out.

Interesting observation that may not be representative, the colored blue collar immigrants blamed Brexit. The blue collar East European immigrants blamed the Muslim. Everyone is finding someone to blame as they are simply powerless to do anything. 

The Great Empire had overseas colonies to exploit during colonial times, building the world’s first subway in the world but look at their rail system now.  They got complacent just when the competition was heating up. 

UK aerospace industry was once the world leader in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Some of the aircraft they produced were really unmatched in terms of design. In those days without advanced fly-by-wire and electronics, they had engineering talent to produce the V-bombers, harrier jumpjet, bristol buccaneer .....but where are those companies nowadays - hawker siddeley, british aerospace, avro? All closed down.

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On 8/7/2024 at 10:16 PM, Lala81 said:

Yeah that's my sense. Lots of people are gainfully employed but they are all being crushed by the COL. For example, the BNO hk found jobs with not much difficulty. But there's few high paying jobs like they were used to HK. 

Some suggest that the boris govt reason to accept BNO HK immigrants was to solve a blue collar labour crunch happening due to brexit. 

Teachers, nurses should be solid middle class jobs, but wage freezes and austerity make their pay paltry in comparison. 

Gas, groceries, the need to rent all add up. 

With brexit the red tape surrounding Europe, for biz who serve Europe, doesn't make sense to only service local economy.

Almost 1/3 of pubs shut down since 2020. 

Ha thats serious stuff for the brits. 

 

COL is a problem everywhere in the world, just too much greed and rich getting richer, widening income gaps. Perhaps heading for another revolution? History repeats itself.

Too bad for keir starmer, what an intro to the new job. All it took to trigger the chaos was one crazed fellow with a knife. It was more fun and easy when being the oppo!  

For all the neo nazi linkages to the current riots, many britons were outraged by his statement branding the whole lot of people protesting as "far right thugs". He's not entirely wrong, but it's backfiring.

 

Edited August 7 by Sosaria

[Voodooman]

On 8/7/2024 at 10:46 PM, Sosaria said:

UK aerospace industry was once the world leader in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Some of the aircraft they produced were really unmatched in terms of design. In those days without advanced fly-by-wire and electronics, they had engineering talent to produce the V-bombers, harrier jumpjet, bristol buccaneer .....but where are those companies nowadays - hawker siddeley, british aerospace, avro? All closed down.

Still have Roll Royce Aerospace (jet turbine is world leading) but the big technological gaps in many other areas are going going gone.  Looks at their auto industry, they sold RR (car), LR, Mini, Jaguar… left with niche premium names like AM. 

[Mkl22]

On 8/7/2024 at 10:46 AM, SGCMmadman said:

Seems every war tat has happened..... has british hand in it. India vs pak. East pak vs west pak, israel vs palestine... 

British jus looted countries n left, wen suited dem. Guess great britain is no longer great n united kingdom, is no longer united.

The British caused all the issues with their colonization and subsequent indiscriminate splitting of the lands. 

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On 8/7/2024 at 10:46 PM, Sosaria said:

UK aerospace industry was once the world leader in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Some of the aircraft they produced were really unmatched in terms of design. In those days without advanced fly-by-wire and electronics, they had engineering talent to produce the V-bombers, harrier jumpjet, bristol buccaneer .....but where are those companies nowadays - hawker siddeley, british aerospace, avro? All closed down.

But once they committed to the Typhoon, the was never going to be another fighter mah. Economics at play. Plus the post soviet collapse meant no business. 

[SGCMmadman]

Hawker still present at seletar aerospace. Duno still owned by british?

Used to enjoy watching hawker hunters take off n land, wen serving RSAF during NS

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On 8/7/2024 at 10:48 PM, Sosaria said:

Too bad for keir starmer, what an intro to the new job. All it took to trigger the chaos was one crazed fellow with a knife. It was more fun and easy when being the oppo!

That of cos wasn't his fault. He .. and his party... wasnt in power long enough to be held responsible. 

But he is a woke prata flip flopping.

He is on record supporting far worse riots for George Floyd,  a terrible criminal. 

He now literally calls for a "standing army" to crush riots for dead young girls. And those 3 girls were not even THE cause of riots, just the last straw that broke the camel's back.

He could've, he absolutely should've, at least tried to defuse the situation by acknowledging people's anger and grieve, and minimally say his govt will tackle the immigrant caused crime and extremism issues.

Now he's probably burnt his bridges. Tonnes of videos of middle east and African males doing worst things on the streets without consequences are making the rounds of social media. Its hard to see how he's going to salvage it.

I suspect he mistook people voting out the conservatives to be a signal he had open cheque😬...🤦‍♂️

And the next spot to ignite will likely be the Irish,  that'll be fireworks. 

Edited August 8 by Playtime

[Beregond]

冰冻三尺 非一曰之寒

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-is-broke-broken-new-government-declares-2024-07-27/

Britain's government declared the country was "broke and broken" ahead of an assessment of the public finances on Monday which the newly-elected Labour Party will use to blame their predecessors for a 20 billion pound ($26 billion) shortfall.

Elected to run the world's sixth largest economy in a landslide victory on July 4, Labour has spent much of its first three weeks in power telling the public that things are worse than expected in almost every area of public policy.

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On 8/8/2024 at 9:02 AM, Beregond said:

冰冻三尺 非一曰之寒

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-is-broke-broken-new-government-declares-2024-07-27/

Britain's government declared the country was "broke and broken" ahead of an assessment of the public finances on Monday which the newly-elected Labour Party will use to blame their predecessors for a 20 billion pound ($26 billion) shortfall.

Elected to run the world's sixth largest economy in a landslide victory on July 4, Labour has spent much of its first three weeks in power telling the public that things are worse than expected in almost every area of public policy.

they should use the PAP playbook, say things are bad BEFORE election, then after election say they will solve it, upbeat mood😂

in the coming debates, they'll probably cherry pick individual items to shoot each other.

their immigration failures is clear to see. But F3.96Billion (dunno how to get PoundF sign) is ridiculously high... and probably doesnt include full picture.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2024-05-07/debates/64997110-88BF-4157-8177-D9687A25841B/IllegalImmigrationCosts

 

 

[Jamesc]

Thatcher screwed England.

Destroyed all the manufacturing jobs.

Britain should never have joined EU.

And joined never fully joined.

That's why England still use Pound and not Euro.

[Jamesc]

Before Thatcher England people never lock their back door.

Many England houses no fence and gate one.

Now every time a footballer play in Europe his house gets robbed.

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On 8/8/2024 at 10:22 AM, Jamesc said:

Thatcher screwed England.

Destroyed all the manufacturing jobs.

Britain should never have joined EU.

And joined never fully joined.

That's why England still use Pound and not Euro.

Think it's more than about joining EU or using Euro. 

EU country, 

Poland,  its poorer, but it don't have the kind of social problem the brits are facing now. Famous for its "Zero" stance. 

Sweden, it's a paradise,  rich. But its been cited as rape capital. And Somali gangs are fighting with hand grenades. Trumps past comments about "no go zones" is proving true. 

Both countries are in EU, but have opposite policy wrt mass illegal immigration.

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On 8/8/2024 at 10:43 AM, yishunite said:

Bro I been to both places. I would take Sweden over Poland anyday. Dont talk out of your ass

I think you are getting too emotional on this. Cool it a bit.