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Is it really cheaper to own an EV?

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Will you stick to EV  

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  1. 1. Will you stick to EV

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inlinesix

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On 6/20/2024 at 11:21 PM, mersaylee said:

Becos of high coe...many have gone greener...πŸ˜…

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Kklee

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On 6/20/2024 at 8:07 PM, Voodooman said:

7.7s is decent.Β 

No charging at home, only at work, don’t think it makes sense to buy EV. If on leave, need to go find a charger, way too troublesome.Β 

IMHO.
I try not to make my daily routine revolves around charging the car.Β 
Also, while I never explored,Β  I may not be the only one using the charger at my workplace now and in the future.
Just hope Gov really build up the chargers in the various estates ASAP.Β 


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inlinesix

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On 6/20/2024 at 11:16 PM, Tianmo said:

When China starts pushing out more PHEVs that comes with ranges of over 2000km, 1000km Japanese HEV is going to look like a joke. And if you starts looking at their prices and build qualities, Japanese HEV is going to look like a big joke.Β  That day is close. [laugh][laugh][laugh]

Japan is losing out on battery tech.

Toyota is hoping for the leap in solid state battery.

CATL or BYD might be the 1st to achieve it.

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Lethalstrike

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On 6/20/2024 at 11:16 PM, Tianmo said:

When China starts pushing out more PHEVs that comes with ranges of over 2000km, 1000km Japanese HEV is going to look like a joke. And if you starts looking at their prices and build qualities, Japanese HEV is going to look like a big joke.Β  That day is close. [laugh][laugh][laugh]

Jippun makes are a joke here due to joker ADs like Borneo, Kah and Tan Chong. Knn still bringing in lousy base spec models.Β 

BYD bring in their DM-i PHEVs these jokers will go eat shit for sure.Β 

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Kklee

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On 6/20/2024 at 11:16 PM, Tianmo said:

When China starts pushing out more PHEVs that comes with ranges of over 2000km, 1000km Japanese HEV is going to look like a joke. And if you starts looking at their prices and build qualities, Japanese HEV is going to look like a big joke.Β  That day is close. [laugh][laugh][laugh]

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IMHO.
HEV good for those developing countries.Β 

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Meanmachine

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On 6/16/2024 at 1:10 PM, Tianmo said:

Which part of for EV owners ONLY you don't understand?Β 

Not for advocate/s.Β 

I am going to start one thread "For to be EV owners ONLY" and you better don't double standard merge my thread hor. [laugh][laugh][laugh]

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Β  Β  Β This one Epic- Radx V Tianmo or Tianmo Vs RADXΒ πŸ₯°πŸ€£

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Voodooman

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McKinsey survey. 29% wants to go back to ICE. Β The poll is rigged. Β πŸ˜‚

Among the reasons are charging infrastructure and cost of ownership. 13% don't like the drive. Hmm...Β 

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RadX

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On 6/28/2024 at 12:50 PM, Voodooman said:

McKinsey survey. 29% wants to go back to ICE. Β The poll is rigged. Β πŸ˜‚

Among the reasons are charging infrastructure and cost of ownership. 13% don't like the drive. Hmm...Β 

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Yes yes EV lousy pls pls dun get EvπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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but I’m not walking the talk so DYODD

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Voodooman

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On 6/28/2024 at 1:08 PM, RadX said:

Yes yes EV lousy pls pls dun get EvπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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but I’m not walking the talk so DYODD

Want to ask when you changing to i5 but better not invite more suaning. πŸ˜‚

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RadX

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On 6/28/2024 at 1:23 PM, Voodooman said:

Want to ask when you changing to i5 but better not invite more suaning. πŸ˜‚

By now u shd know me.....I never say and just post when it's doneπŸ˜„

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Voodooman

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On 6/28/2024 at 1:39 PM, RadX said:

By now u shd know me.....I never say and just post when it's doneπŸ˜„

I am reading between lines.πŸ˜ƒ

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balshankar

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Some thoughts on Petrol Car vs Hybrid Cars

Trying to compare a petrol car vs hybrid of similar power (hp) and size (L/W/H)

Not sure if my methodology is correct, but feel Hybrid/EV are priced higher than similar petrol cars making it expensive to own and operate. Working are given below based on prices as of 29Jun202

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Kklee

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On 6/29/2024 at 7:29 PM, balshankar said:

Some thoughts on Petrol Car vs Hybrid Cars

Trying to compare a petrol car vs hybrid of similar power (hp) and size (L/W/H)

Not sure if my methodology is correct, but feel Hybrid/EV are priced higher than similar petrol cars making it expensive to own and operate. Working are given below based on prices as of 29Jun202

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IMHO.Β 
Toyota from AD usually is priced higher.
My ex-2014 Altis with same claimed FC,  I would say more accurate would be 80%.🀣
My Toyota Hybrid claimed WLTP, I would say more accurate would be 120%. 🀣
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Lala81

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On 6/21/2024 at 3:10 PM, inlinesix said:

Japan is losing out on battery tech.

Toyota is hoping for the leap in solid state battery.

CATL or BYD might be the 1st to achieve it.

Read a recent interview by some management Audi.
Their belief is that SS batteries will not be a mass consumption product despite the clear advantages. Simply cos it's going to be expensive.

Problem with Solid state is that it's going to require a very high level of technical precision to build it properly. And it's going to be costly for the forseeable future.Β 

I have shares in Quantumscape which is one of the companies that maybe close to reaching commercial production within the next 2-3 years. And they have strategic investment by VW.Β 

So Audi/Porsche may adopt it when it does commercialise. But not VW.Β 

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inlinesix

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On 7/3/2024 at 10:45 AM, Lala81 said:

Read a recent interview by some management Audi.
Their belief is that SS batteries will not be a mass consumption product despite the clear advantages. Simply cos it's going to be expensive.

Problem with Solid state is that it's going to require a very high level of technical precision to build it properly. And it's going to be costly for the forseeable future.Β 

I have shares in Quantumscape which is one of the companies that maybe close to reaching commercial production within the next 2-3 years. And they have strategic investment by VW.Β 

So Audi/Porsche may adopt it when it does commercialise. But not VW.Β 

CATL is talking about Solid State this year.Β  I guess that it will be commercialised in next 2 years.

Porsche was the 1st Company within VW Group to launch EV.Β  That's likely a collaboration with its investee, RIMAC.

It is not surprising that Solid State will start from Porsche/Audi.

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