SQ321 experienced severe air turbulence, 1 death

[Beanoyip]

Is it safe to say, no amount of engineering can avoid CAT.

[Tohto]

On 5/22/2024 at 12:35 PM, bsswan said:

I am always belted up, loosely, and even over the blanket when laying down. If lucky enough to get across three seats, then still will belt the middle one.

The bigger risk is walking to/from the toilet. When in the toilet, I am always seated in case of shaking, and can hold the handle and door etc. My thought is usually about "hope I don't get wet; these are the only jeans I have for the week." 🥲

My mother, once, lay on a blanket in the space between the last row of seats and bulkhead. She is really small and there is literally nowhere to go; up, down, backward, forward or sideways - really safe. I doubt even crew saw that she was there.

That said, the section over Bay of Bengal, Indian Ocean, is always bumpy and often the whole section no matter the time of year. Sometimes like hell and the problem is that is where meal service starts before landing, or not yet finished on the way to Europe.

Agreed on the section of Bay of Bengal always bumpy. Past 20 yrs when fly to Germany frequently always experience turbulence over there.  And the worst turbulence was also flying through that area long time ago on a 747, sudden drop without any warning.  Causing captain to On seat belt size immediately and get all to sit including cabin crew.

[Tohto]

On 5/22/2024 at 3:07 PM, Beanoyip said:

Is it safe to say, no amount of engineering can avoid CAT.

I believe if the engineering improvement of radar that can detect dry turbulence. 

[Atonchia]

On 5/22/2024 at 3:07 PM, Beanoyip said:

Is it safe to say, no amount of engineering can avoid CAT.

Possibly thermal image from satellite can see temperature difference in adjacent air parcels. 

But still unlikely to see airflow....

Even aerodynamic tunnel need to have smoke stream to track the airflow.

[Eyke]

On 5/22/2024 at 4:25 PM, metalstream said:

CNA reposted that the 6,000 ft plunge within 4 minutes could be due to pilot's reaction. I interpret that this could have been avoided. Perhaps plane could have been in auto pilot mode, and sudden turbulence caught the pilot by surprise, hence the drastic reaction? 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/cna-explains-sq321-what-turbulence-4354086

6000ft in 4 mins is controlled descent and not the cause of the injuries

[Atonchia]

On 5/22/2024 at 4:25 PM, metalstream said:

CNA reposted that the 6,000 ft plunge within 4 minutes could be due to pilot's reaction. I interpret that this could have been avoided. Perhaps plane could have been in auto pilot mode, and sudden turbulence caught the pilot by surprise, hence the drastic reaction? 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/cna-explains-sq321-what-turbulence-4354086

Maybe SQ have a SOP when met with turbulence? 

 Air is denser at 31k ft than 37kft

Probably there is a difference when flying in stratosphere above 33-35kft and troposphere (ground to 35kft) 

[Atonchia]

On 5/22/2024 at 4:35 PM, Eyke said:

6000ft in 4 mins is controlled descent and not the cause of the injuries

Yup agree, ROD of 1500ft per min is standard ROD for commercial aircraft.

[inlinesix]

 

[Atonchia]

58 people from SQ321 still hospitalised in Bangkok; two Singaporeans in ICU.

There are 20 people still receiving treatment in intensive care units at three hospitals in Bangkok.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/sq321-turbulence-singapore-airlines-bangkok-hospital-icu-4354876?cid=internal_sharetool_androidphone_22052024_cna

 

[Atonchia]

Hope this is a timely reminder to all going overseas during this coming school holiday to be belted whenever seated. 

[Dafansu]

On 5/22/2024 at 6:33 PM, Atonchia said:

Hope this is a timely reminder to all going overseas during this coming school holiday to be belted whenever seated. 

don't worry all will be belted, after 1 to 2 years back to norm; unbelted

[macrosszero]

All the airlines I flown recently request passengers to remain buckled in regardless of seatbelt sign. Yet there are heroes who don’t think it’s necessary.

Just like there are people on bicycles who ride around with their helmets strapped across their handlebars and not on their heads

Or people in cars who refuse to put on seatbelt or let their little ones roam around the cabin while the car is in motion.

I think they have the power of precognition because they think they can put on seatbelts before an incident occurs. 

[Tohto]

On 5/22/2024 at 6:39 PM, Dafansu said:

don't worry all will be belted, after 1 to 2 years back to norm; unbelted

First, they need to learn to belt up when sitting in a car rear seat.

[ER-3682]

On 5/22/2024 at 6:30 PM, Atonchia said:

58 people from SQ321 still hospitalised in Bangkok; two Singaporeans in ICU.

There are 20 people still receiving treatment in intensive care units at three hospitals in Bangkok.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/sq321-turbulence-singapore-airlines-bangkok-hospital-icu-4354876?cid=internal_sharetool_androidphone_22052024_cna

 

Bangkok's 3 Hospitals...suddenly ''Huat''.

[Atonchia]

On 5/22/2024 at 6:51 PM, ER-3682 said:

Bangkok's 3 Hospitals...suddenly ''Huat''.

Yah..Possible ....

Foreigners all pay full rates and they can claim travel and personal insurance.

[Tohto]

On 5/22/2024 at 6:54 PM, Atonchia said:

Yah..Possible ....

Foreigners all pay full rates and they can claim travel and personal insurance.

I think this might all be paid by SQ.

[inlinesix]

On 5/22/2024 at 6:54 PM, Atonchia said:

Yah..Possible ....

Foreigners all pay full rates and they can claim travel and personal insurance.

Likely the bill goes to SQ.

But SQ insurer is working overtime today.

[inlinesix]

On 5/22/2024 at 6:51 PM, ER-3682 said:

Bangkok's 3 Hospitals...suddenly ''Huat''.

With so many injured, 3 could be on the low side.

It is likely other hospitals don’t have the capacity to handle this kind of injuries.