Singapore Reckless Drivers Part Xvi

[commonjunks]

On 10/24/2024 at 9:10 AM, Beehive3783 said:

If he really skidded, the tail would have locked up and swung out first.

Skidded my ass, it is very normal behavior of avoidance when there is imminent danger.
If someone throw things at your face your hand with automatically try to stop it without preplanning, he swung his vehicle to avoid hitting next car at speed when he knows he will not be able to stop in time.

He can make all excuses he want but lawyer will see straight through all,

1- Driving in 1st lane (when he not suppose to).
2- Driving too close to next vehicle at speed.
3- Didn't anticipate consequences of his actions.

 

[commonjunks]

On 10/23/2024 at 10:09 PM, Jamesc said:

 

SPF need to change rules to immediately suspend license + cane for anyone running red lights. This is just getting out of hands now.

[Beehive3783]

On 10/24/2024 at 9:38 AM, ER-3682 said:

Agreed,full of Bullsxxx...Prepare his backside for a Short Stay in Changi "Chalet".

On second thoughts, there is one other condition that the front would sway to the side like this.  In ideal conditions and both calipers working well, the vehicle will brake properly in a straight line.

When one of the front brake calipers is not working well, it will result in unbalanced braking force when e-brake is applied, causing the vehicle to pull in the direction of the caliper with stronger braking force. If this is indeed the case for this lorry, then there is a point of contention there.

Here's a video to illustrate the problem. I want to say that I am not defending the lorry driver, just purely technical discussion.

 

Edited October 24, 2024 by Beehive3783

[Jamesc]

On 10/24/2024 at 6:26 AM, Beanoyip said:

No matter how he justify, a life has been lost. Why didn't he kept to the left lane like all other light/heavy vehicles?

He Kay Kiang

[mersaylee]

On 10/24/2024 at 8:54 AM, Beehive3783 said:

Wrong answer. Obviously you have never been trained to drive a heavy vehicle before. Turning from the left lane gives them additional space to do wide turning to avoid cutting into the right lane.

Yessi...buses are like many other heavy vehicles...have very good turning radius...go wide first then turn is betterer...that bus driver might have thot he's driving his mpv at that time...better turn ealry if not sekali understeer...😁

[Beehive3783]

On 10/24/2024 at 9:53 AM, mersaylee said:

Yessi...buses are like many other heavy vehicles...have very good turning radius...go wide first then turn is betterer...that bus driver might have thot he's driving his mpv at that time...better turn ealry if not sekali understeer...😁

This is why heavy vehicle drivers are trained to always turn from the left most lane when there are multiple turning lanes.

[commonjunks]

On 10/24/2024 at 9:47 AM, Beehive3783 said:

On second thoughts, there is one other condition that the front would sway to the side like this.  In ideal conditions and both calipers working well, the vehicle will brake properly in a straight line.

When one of the front brake calipers is not working well, it will result in unbalanced braking force when e-brake is applied, causing the vehicle to pull in the direction of the caliper with stronger braking force. If this is indeed the case for this lorry, then there is a point of contention there.

If you try to look at the video few times (at 3s mark), you will see lorry didn't skid when he applied brakes but all of sudden start skidding when it was about to hit the front car.
Claim of start skidding mean it should start skidding when he applied brakes but very conveniently it only seems to start skidding when he see he is going to hit next car.
SPF and analysist were not born yesterday, they will smell his BS from miles away

[Jamesc]

He keep lane then no point of contention.

[Raychay]

Regardless skid or not, commercial vehicles shouldn't be driving on lane 1 of expressways. They shouldn't follow the front vehicle too closely.

Everyday also see commercial vehicles on lane 1 of expressways. Report already also don't know any action taken.

[Beehive3783]

On 10/24/2024 at 10:29 AM, Raychay said:

Regardless skid or not, commercial vehicles shouldn't be driving on lane 1 of expressways. They shouldn't follow the front vehicle too closely.

Everyday also see commercial vehicles on lane 1 of expressways. Report already also don't know any action taken.

TP more interested in speeding fines  

[Jamesc]

I was wrong 

I shouldn't have been speeding 

I shouldn't have been tailgating 

It was my fault.

[Jamesc]

Not my fault lah.

Lorry skidded.

What can I do?

Unlucky lah.

[ER-3682]

On 10/24/2024 at 9:47 AM, Beehive3783 said:

On second thoughts, there is one other condition that the front would sway to the side like this.  In ideal conditions and both calipers working well, the vehicle will brake properly in a straight line.

When one of the front brake calipers is not working well, it will result in unbalanced braking force when e-brake is applied, causing the vehicle to pull in the direction of the caliper with stronger braking force. If this is indeed the case for this lorry, then there is a point of contention there.

Here's a video to illustrate the problem. I want to say that I am not defending the lorry driver, just purely technical discussion.

 

Whatsever Excuses still need to go to Jail,Fine & Guntong Licence.

[Jamesc]

When he panicked and jam brake he never hold the steering wheel straight and angled it to the left he also won't remember.

All he will remember is the car in front is getting bigger and bigger.

Edited October 24, 2024 by Jamesc

[Jamesc]

Has anyone noticed SG people first reaction is always 

Not my fault?

[Jamesc]

It's like everyone thinks they are perfect in this country.

[Stratovarius]

On 10/23/2024 at 8:03 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

Lorry driver still can self pwn and say his lorry skid.

skid his lampa la where got skid obviously not paying attention and brake too late. Kancheong swerve out

23oct2024 kje 

 cam lorry  skidded when driver brake. driver share dashcam footage of accident / point of view &  apologise  

quoted 
 not trying to push the blame to someone else but just want to clarify that   

firstly it was not my intention to change lane but i was jam braked to avoid hitting the car infront and my lorry skided out of lane.  

secondly i was not using my mobile phone or anything either.  
 it was really unfortunate how it happened so i just hope i get to share my point of view.  

its my fault no matter how you look at it and i feel extremely guilty because no one deserved to go like that.

im sorry.

Not defending the lorry driver but the altis did jam brake unnecessary. And if the brake balance got problem, the car with go one side with hard braking. This is quite common with lorries. I don't think the lorry driver will want to do last min lane change with the trailer right beside it. 

[jcmm]

On 10/24/2024 at 6:01 AM, Beanoyip said:

The issue is lack of enforcement, no amount of education can help.

These few days, weather very hot. It is better to stay in air con room and play with mobile.