Xiaomi EV is Coming

[Kopites]

  On 4/2/2025 at 6:58 AM, Lala81 said:

I mentioned before, after a high speed impact. with smoke flooding the cabin and panic in the air. Who will remember the emergency latch release?

Maybe 1 out of 5 at best. 

If based on the diagram, at least xiaomi made it pretty visible. 

 

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Some reports claimed the mechanical door lock malfunctioned.

How would those bystanders know, I am wondering. Hmmm....take it as a pinch of salt.

Edited April 2 by Kopites

[Volvobrick]

  On 4/2/2025 at 5:35 AM, Lethalstrike said:

A few misconceptions and myths about this incident. 

1. Doors cannot be opened from the inside

All 4 doors of the SU7 are equipped with emergency mechanical door release handles (circled in red). In this incident, its probably the occupants are unfamiliar with the car and did not know such a handle exists, and they are trying in vain to open the doors with the electric button (orange). Or they are already unconscious after the impact.

2. LFP battery sure won't catch fire after accident. Much safer compared to NMC

This variant which catch fire after the accident is verified to be a base model SU7 which uses LFP battery. So battery safety is always about the overall design and fail safes of the entire battery pack, never just the battery chemistry alone. So stop the bulls**t that BYD and Tesla LFP battery sure won't catch fire. 

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Muscle memory - never use before no way anyone could find it in such an obscure location when they panic.  Really poor safety design - why don't they put is right next to the button other than for looks?

Or better still, integrate it with the electronic handle - light pull activate electric servo to open, heavy pull activate mechanical.

PS I won't buy a car with electronic handle until it is designed better.  Never want to be burned alive.

 

 

Edited April 2 by Volvobrick

[Volvobrick]

  On 4/2/2025 at 6:11 AM, inlinesix said:

Inside: Electrical and Mechanical

Outside: Electrical

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Oh great - people outside can just watch the occupants die....

[Kopites]

  On 4/2/2025 at 7:30 AM, Volvobrick said:

Oh great - people outside can just watch the occupants die....

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Take video instead of watching. 

In a serious note. Especially scary with those seamless handle door lock. 

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[Beregond]

  On 4/2/2025 at 8:14 AM, Kopites said:

Take video instead of watching. 

In a serious note. Especially scary with those seamless handle door lock. 

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The only video I saw was the car totally burning. 

Unless there are witnesses that come out and say they attempt to save the victim but cannot open the door. Before the car start to burn . Then I dun want say. 

In any cases. At a speed of 100km.  I think the ppl inside already knock out. Not to mention the deform of the chassis and body . Can the door even be open even if the mechanism is working properly? 

I dun want jump to conclusions. But I think alot of those ppl posting just want to jump on to the bandwagon and get like for their video more then anything else.

 

[Jellandross]

  On 4/2/2025 at 7:28 AM, Volvobrick said:

Muscle memory - never use before no way anyone could find it in such an obscure location when they panic.  Really poor safety design - why don't they put is right next to the button other than for looks?

Or better still, integrate it with the electronic handle - light pull activate electric servo to open, heavy pull activate mechanical.

PS I won't buy a car with electronic handle until it is designed better.  Never want to be burned alive.

 

 

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None of the victims was the car owner so probably less familiar with the car. The actual owner only got notified on his phone app after the accident. Can't imagine his shock when the notification popped up.

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[inlinesix]

  On 4/2/2025 at 9:27 AM, Jellandross said:

None of the victims was the car owner so probably less familiar with the car. The actual owner only got notified on his phone app after the accident. Can't imagine his shock when the notification popped up.

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Driver was owner GF

[Voodooman]

  On 4/2/2025 at 7:28 AM, Volvobrick said:

Muscle memory - never use before no way anyone could find it in such an obscure location when they panic.  Really poor safety design - why don't they put is right next to the button other than for looks?

Or better still, integrate it with the electronic handle - light pull activate electric servo to open, heavy pull activate mechanical.

PS I won't buy a car with electronic handle until it is designed better.  Never want to be burned alive.

 

 

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Actually Tesla popularised this no external/ flushed / electrical handle nonsense (read Land Rover started it), putting aesthetic (or efficiency) above safety and the Chinese copied it, even Porsche Taycan also used it.  The new E also has it. 

It looks cool in a keyless world but mechanical door handles, both internal and  external should be made mandatory for safety reasons. 

 

[Heartlander]

Seems alot of cover up happening. The preliminary assessment by police onsite was that the car door was locked so the occupants were burnt to death, and the 3rd passenger was second row was removed form the car alive but died on the way to hospital. The video by a relative was deleted from social media soon after posting as expected, but was shown in this video below. And the report released by Xiaomi on the last moments before the crash has been concluded to be simplified comparing to other accident reports released by Xiaomi before, alluding to covering up of critical details to avoid responsibility. Many questions left unanswered still.

 

 

[Heartbreakid]

Tech is tech but the basics still have to be there. Some of the Chinese car makers totally doesn't have mechanical over-ride door opening function for the interior and just having an electronic button. 

Those have ones, not many have them on all four doors. Some just has it at the front ones. 

And because they want it to be more presentable, this mechanical door opening lever is located low down within the door pocket. Those user not familiar with the car, will not know that there is such over-ride equipment. 

Best examples of the mechanical cum electric function are Lexus and Audi, where both functions are combined as one and at the same location. 

Next, the Chinese love tech so much that they prefer buttonless function and everything set within the touchscreen, which is now showing their flaws.

Next is their 1000bhp and above EVs which is just a hype and a time bomb waiting for accidents to happen.

No doubt they are impressive, but at the expense of daily practicality and most importantly safety.

[Tkseah]

Frustration about the door handles..

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JYKFcXA7S/

[Volvobrick]

  On 4/9/2025 at 10:49 AM, Tkseah said:

Frustration about the door handles..

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JYKFcXA7S/

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Yeah 100% agree. It should be outlawed.

[mersaylee]

  On 4/9/2025 at 11:07 AM, Volvobrick said:

Yeah 100% agree. It should be outlawed.

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That's why i stick to wowo...safety first...profit second...hokay hokay...i kiasi and boh lui...😁

[Lethalstrike]

  On 4/9/2025 at 11:39 AM, mersaylee said:

That's why i stick to wowo...safety first...profit second...hokay hokay...i kiasi and boh lui...😁

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Wowo's EVs old school mentality when it comes to interior door handles. All mechanical. 

XC40/EX40/C40/EC40

EX30

EX90 - Mechanical latch which you pull up in front of the power windows switch 

[mersaylee]

Wowo for life...save life is more important than save profit...😁👍

[Lala81]

I want to ask ar.
Can the EV brands' charging port can be opened with a mechanical lever? 

I was watching some local review of Xpeng G9. 
From what i see of Xpeng, the charge port cover can only be released via the app or inside the menu, cos its an electric motor. 

Means if the motor of that particular cover spoils = make the car unusable already need to go service center? 

[Lethalstrike]

  On 4/10/2025 at 2:37 AM, mersaylee said:

Wowo for life...save life is more important than save profit...😁👍

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It is actually more expensive to have an electrical button to open door, then still need to add in a mechanical fail safe handle at some obscure location at the door.

So might as well cut cost and save lives 🤣

Edited April 10 by Lethalstrike

[inlinesix]

  On 4/10/2025 at 2:52 AM, Lala81 said:

I want to ask ar.
Can the EV brands' charging port can be opened with a mechanical lever? 

I was watching some local review of Xpeng G9. 
From what i see of Xpeng, the charge port cover can only be released via the app or inside the menu, cos its an electric motor. 

Means if the motor of that particular cover spoils = make the car unusable already need to go service center? 

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It could be electrical lock with spring level pivot.