S’pore Airshow - Worst transport experience’

[Soya]

On 2/23/2024 at 2:00 PM, Lala81 said:

NDP got almost 10 rehearsals to get everything right. 

After every rehearsal, there will be AAR usually.  

No real war to fight. The BGs, Majs, LTCs must keep themselves beezee w all these mah

 

[Soya]

On 2/23/2024 at 11:27 AM, Davidklt said:

I have attended 3 or 4 of it before. Its almost the same exhibit every year. I saw the F35 booth 3 times in a roll with the same recycled advertising hoardings. 

Decided not to go this year as the weather has been erratic.

Wah sei....liddat cannot laugh at ah huat say he keep recycling russ swift liao 

 

[DOBIEMKZ]

On 2/23/2024 at 7:07 AM, Kb27 said:

I, for one, would not go there. ph driver who's smart enough won't go there to get jammed, for hours, for $10, $20 ?

Grab keep promoting, high demand, but who's want to drive there for regular fare ? Even with surge, it's not enough to compensate your hours of waiting and crawling in the traffic, wasting petrol, time.

 

‘Worst transport experience’: Crawling traffic, long waits for rides frustrate S’pore Airshow visitors

SINGAPORE - Waiting almost three hours for a taxi ride from the Singapore Airshow to her hotel was not something that senior corporate executive Inga Duglas expected after attending the first day of the event on Feb 20.

When she eventually got into a taxi, her fare from Changi Exhibition Centre, where the air show is taking place till Feb 25, to central Singapore at 7.30pm came to $120, said Ms Duglas, expressing surprise that her ride was “so expensive”.

“I was hungry, thirsty and exhausted,” the 38-year-old told The Straits Times on the evening of Feb 21.

The 2024 edition of the biennial aerospace and defence exhibition has been drawing complaints about heavy traffic in and out of the showground, with some visitors telling ST that traffic arrangements were poorly organised.

The first four days of the air show, from Feb 20 to 23, are for trade attendees. The air show is open to the public on the last two days, on Feb 24 and 25.

Ms Duglas was among 23 trade visitors and exhibitors interviewed by ST about their experience getting into and out of the showground.

Some said they had to endure several kilometres of crawling traffic into the exhibition centre due to reduced access to Aviation Park Road and Tanah Merah Coast Road, and were unable to secure private-hire car and taxi rides to and from Changi Exhibition Centre.

Others spoke of the sky-high fares for these rides, and long queues for the air show shuttle, which plies between Singapore Expo and the exhibition centre.

Visitors have to pay a location surcharge of $15, on top of the metered fare, for taxi services leaving Changi Exhibition Centre until Feb 25.

Commercial executive Stanley Raj, 45, said it was the “worst transportation experience” he has encountered, when compared with other air shows he has visited, including the Paris Air Show in June 2023 and the Dubai Airshow in November 2023.

To exit the showground on Feb 21 at around 5pm, Mr Raj waited more than 35 minutes for his private-hire car ride.

That morning, his ride to the exhibition centre was stuck in a 45-minute jam because of lane closures and security checkpoints.

 

Ms Jayne Low, who is part of an exhibitor’s team that drove to the air show, said she was caught in traffic for about 20 minutes at around 9am on Feb 21.

This was because officers slowed traffic down significantly by checking the identities of all passengers in each vehicle with a parking label, said the managing director in her 40s.

Ms Low, who has attended several editions of the Singapore Airshow, added: “It is the same thing for every edition... If they can manage (vehicular) traffic for Coldplay fans, they can surely do this for the air show.”

ST reporters heading to the show experienced several instances of private-hire car drivers cancelling their rides to the exhibition centre on Feb 21 and 22.

Part-time private-hire car driver George Liow, 37, said most drivers would not travel to the venue for a single fare, as they would need to navigate the jam and detours.

He added: “Who in their right mind would come in all the way to the venue to pick someone up for a small sum of money?”

They putting in place too much checking.

Wasting much time and causing much delay.

[DOBIEMKZ]

On 2/23/2024 at 7:07 AM, Kb27 said:

I, for one, would not go there. ph driver who's smart enough won't go there to get jammed, for hours, for $10, $20 ?

Grab keep promoting, high demand, but who's want to drive there for regular fare ? Even with surge, it's not enough to compensate your hours of waiting and crawling in the traffic, wasting petrol, time.

 

‘Worst transport experience’: Crawling traffic, long waits for rides frustrate S’pore Airshow visitors

SINGAPORE - Waiting almost three hours for a taxi ride from the Singapore Airshow to her hotel was not something that senior corporate executive Inga Duglas expected after attending the first day of the event on Feb 20.

When she eventually got into a taxi, her fare from Changi Exhibition Centre, where the air show is taking place till Feb 25, to central Singapore at 7.30pm came to $120, said Ms Duglas, expressing surprise that her ride was “so expensive”.

“I was hungry, thirsty and exhausted,” the 38-year-old told The Straits Times on the evening of Feb 21.

The 2024 edition of the biennial aerospace and defence exhibition has been drawing complaints about heavy traffic in and out of the showground, with some visitors telling ST that traffic arrangements were poorly organised.

The first four days of the air show, from Feb 20 to 23, are for trade attendees. The air show is open to the public on the last two days, on Feb 24 and 25.

Ms Duglas was among 23 trade visitors and exhibitors interviewed by ST about their experience getting into and out of the showground.

Some said they had to endure several kilometres of crawling traffic into the exhibition centre due to reduced access to Aviation Park Road and Tanah Merah Coast Road, and were unable to secure private-hire car and taxi rides to and from Changi Exhibition Centre.

Others spoke of the sky-high fares for these rides, and long queues for the air show shuttle, which plies between Singapore Expo and the exhibition centre.

Visitors have to pay a location surcharge of $15, on top of the metered fare, for taxi services leaving Changi Exhibition Centre until Feb 25.

Commercial executive Stanley Raj, 45, said it was the “worst transportation experience” he has encountered, when compared with other air shows he has visited, including the Paris Air Show in June 2023 and the Dubai Airshow in November 2023.

To exit the showground on Feb 21 at around 5pm, Mr Raj waited more than 35 minutes for his private-hire car ride.

That morning, his ride to the exhibition centre was stuck in a 45-minute jam because of lane closures and security checkpoints.

 

Ms Jayne Low, who is part of an exhibitor’s team that drove to the air show, said she was caught in traffic for about 20 minutes at around 9am on Feb 21.

This was because officers slowed traffic down significantly by checking the identities of all passengers in each vehicle with a parking label, said the managing director in her 40s.

Ms Low, who has attended several editions of the Singapore Airshow, added: “It is the same thing for every edition... If they can manage (vehicular) traffic for Coldplay fans, they can surely do this for the air show.”

ST reporters heading to the show experienced several instances of private-hire car drivers cancelling their rides to the exhibition centre on Feb 21 and 22.

Part-time private-hire car driver George Liow, 37, said most drivers would not travel to the venue for a single fare, as they would need to navigate the jam and detours.

He added: “Who in their right mind would come in all the way to the venue to pick someone up for a small sum of money?”

Ride-hail companies should collectively impose a surcharge of at least $50.00 for trip to and pick-up from airshow.

Edited February 23 by DOBIEMKZ

[Kb27]

On 2/23/2024 at 2:40 PM, DOBIEMKZ said:

Ride-hail companies should collectively impose a surcharge of at least $50.00 for trip to and pick-up from airshow.

some people already kpkb about high surge. 

but those people never kena situation where no matter how high the surge .. still no drivers. 

you can't conjure up drivers under some extreme conditions.

[Meanmachine]

4 years hiatus, most equipments and People management rusty already, Airshow will carry on plus the heat@open air during this few days are extremely hot / humid.

Good luck to all drivers, drive safe and drink more water. 

[Karoon]

We always say world class etc but no matter what class there are some things just not suited for us in this climate:

1. Cycle to work

2. Airshows

Etc

 

[Atonchia]

On 2/23/2024 at 11:20 AM, Picnic06-Biante15 said:

I organise Airshow & Aircrafts in Static Displays only. 

As well as my Airshow goes smoothly, hack care all those jams and transportations problems. 

Anything to do with land transport, not under my purview>...  

 

That's how SG works. Don't believe, ask our authorities here.

A small branch on the pathway beside a road in HDB housing area. Call HDB, reply not my purview, please call LTA. Footpath on road belongs to LTA. 

Call LTA, reply, please call Npark. Tree belong to Npark.

Call Npark, yes trees along the road belongs to Npark but dead branches that drop to walkway belongs to Town Council. TC contractor to clear.

Call TC, oh, we will sent someone to check. 

 

So you see, if you just push the dead branch to the side of the tree, everything done within 30 seconds. Call here call there wasting precious time. 

 

 

 

Got One service app. Think auto sent to correct "Cheng Hu" department 

[Atonchia]

On 2/23/2024 at 1:53 PM, Sosaria said:

Public day, can Mamils just ride their own bicycles there? Beat all the jams and they regularly cycle that coastal road anyway, airshow or no airshow

 

Think road still close. They scare people watch free airshow.

[inlinesix]

On 2/23/2024 at 2:20 PM, Soya said:

No real war to fight. The BGs, Majs, LTCs must keep themselves beezee w all these mah

I believe Air Force & Navy is bz with either petrol or joint exercise.

Maybe Army have to keep themselves bz.

[Atonchia]

On 2/23/2024 at 7:07 AM, Kb27 said:

I, for one, would not go there. ph driver who's smart enough won't go there to get jammed, for hours, for $10, $20 ?

Grab keep promoting, high demand, but who's want to drive there for regular fare ? Even with surge, it's not enough to compensate your hours of waiting and crawling in the traffic, wasting petrol, time.

 

‘Worst transport experience’: Crawling traffic, long waits for rides frustrate S’pore Airshow visitors

SINGAPORE - Waiting almost three hours for a taxi ride from the Singapore Airshow to her hotel was not something that senior corporate executive Inga Duglas expected after attending the first day of the event on Feb 20.

When she eventually got into a taxi, her fare from Changi Exhibition Centre, where the air show is taking place till Feb 25, to central Singapore at 7.30pm came to $120, said Ms Duglas, expressing surprise that her ride was “so expensive”.

“I was hungry, thirsty and exhausted,” the 38-year-old told The Straits Times on the evening of Feb 21.

The 2024 edition of the biennial aerospace and defence exhibition has been drawing complaints about heavy traffic in and out of the showground, with some visitors telling ST that traffic arrangements were poorly organised.

The first four days of the air show, from Feb 20 to 23, are for trade attendees. The air show is open to the public on the last two days, on Feb 24 and 25.

Ms Duglas was among 23 trade visitors and exhibitors interviewed by ST about their experience getting into and out of the showground.

Some said they had to endure several kilometres of crawling traffic into the exhibition centre due to reduced access to Aviation Park Road and Tanah Merah Coast Road, and were unable to secure private-hire car and taxi rides to and from Changi Exhibition Centre.

Others spoke of the sky-high fares for these rides, and long queues for the air show shuttle, which plies between Singapore Expo and the exhibition centre.

Visitors have to pay a location surcharge of $15, on top of the metered fare, for taxi services leaving Changi Exhibition Centre until Feb 25.

Commercial executive Stanley Raj, 45, said it was the “worst transportation experience” he has encountered, when compared with other air shows he has visited, including the Paris Air Show in June 2023 and the Dubai Airshow in November 2023.

To exit the showground on Feb 21 at around 5pm, Mr Raj waited more than 35 minutes for his private-hire car ride.

That morning, his ride to the exhibition centre was stuck in a 45-minute jam because of lane closures and security checkpoints.

 

Ms Jayne Low, who is part of an exhibitor’s team that drove to the air show, said she was caught in traffic for about 20 minutes at around 9am on Feb 21.

This was because officers slowed traffic down significantly by checking the identities of all passengers in each vehicle with a parking label, said the managing director in her 40s.

Ms Low, who has attended several editions of the Singapore Airshow, added: “It is the same thing for every edition... If they can manage (vehicular) traffic for Coldplay fans, they can surely do this for the air show.”

ST reporters heading to the show experienced several instances of private-hire car drivers cancelling their rides to the exhibition centre on Feb 21 and 22.

Part-time private-hire car driver George Liow, 37, said most drivers would not travel to the venue for a single fare, as they would need to navigate the jam and detours.

He added: “Who in their right mind would come in all the way to the venue to pick someone up for a small sum of money?”

Close the road to prevent public from accessing the exhibition site. Don't want people to see the aerobatics easily.

So the entry point becomes jammed up lor......

So scared of public accessing, exhibition site then should build a pier and arrange fast craft straight to Harbourfront or arrange bumpboat to Changi village.🤣 Catering only to exhibitors. 

[Atonchia]

https://onemotoring.lta.gov.sg/content/onemotoring/home/driving/traffic_information/traffic-cameras/ltm.html#trafficCameras

TMCR still no vehicles... So meant road still close?

Edited February 23 by Atonchia

[DOBIEMKZ]

On 2/23/2024 at 3:35 PM, Kb27 said:

some people already kpkb about high surge. 

but those people never kena situation where no matter how high the surge .. still no drivers. 

you can't conjure up drivers under some extreme conditions.

These are trade visitors, they or their companies can afford to pay.

It's unfair for phv drivers to incur time loss to send or fetch such visitors.

[Flying_genie]

I am in the aviation industry.
Singapore Airshow is no longer one of the "Big 5" airshows in the world.
The Big 5 airshows are Paris Airshow (at Paris–Le Bourget Airport), Farborough Airshow (at Hampshire, United Kingdom), Dubai Airshow , Berlin Airshow and Zhuhai Airshow. 
Asian Aerospace used to be held in Singapore and then it moved to Hong Kong where it steadily became smaller. 

I have been to the Paris Airshow, Dubai Airshow and Singapore's airshow. Crowd, etiquette, organisation and more importantly climate are much better elsewhere. Singapore's humidity and heat make walking the outdoor exhibits excruciatingly painful. Even on trade days, local Singaporean visitors are simply going from exhibitor to exhibitor with a large bag, constantly asking for souvenirs and freebies. It is frankly, quite embarassing.

Edited February 23 by Flying_genie

[Jamesc]

On 2/23/2024 at 7:07 AM, Kb27 said:

When she eventually got into a taxi, her fare from Changi Exhibition Centre, where the air show is taking place till Feb 25, to central Singapore at 7.30pm came to $120, said Ms Duglas, expressing surprise that her ride was “so expensive”.

What's wrong with making more money?

The reason we hold these Exhibition shows is to attract people from around the world

so we can make money!

On 2/23/2024 at 7:07 AM, Kb27 said:

“I was hungry, thirsty and exhausted,” the 38-year-old told The Straits Times on the evening of Feb 21.

The show organisers don't know how to provide food, drink and massage service?

Aiyah wasted opportunity!

Hungry, thirsty and exhausted people will PAY MORE for food, drink and massage services!

[Jamesc]

Want to come don't complain expensive!

I don't go Switzerland and complain "Wah so expensive everything here!"

I go Japan and say wah "Yen so slow, things so much cheaper than SQ!"

These people that travel all over the world supposed to be smart, educated and world wise right?

How come basic economics also they don't know?

If we don't make money from hosting shows, we won't do it!

[Jamesc]

I think people these days sibei gong

but with cheaper air travel

we meet them!

Bring back the good old days when only the rich can fly!

Edited February 24 by Jamesc