What's wrong with our youngs nowadays?!

[Jman888]

On 2/13/2024 at 12:11 PM, Playtime said:

But can you say it's not true that what you call job hopping... its called building portfolio ok😅... I've seen many cases work in real life, people who stay vs those who jumped. Jumpers do pretty well,  of cos sometimes people stay because of good friends and colleagues. 

It's a different world now and work cycles of all kinds are shortened. 

Jumpers put their own interest first, of cos bosses don't like that. 

maybe just treat them as contract worker will make bosses feel better, every year renew, if they stay is a bonus/blessing

 

[Jamesc]

Yes lots of rich people have first world problems and it's just as bad as poor people have third world problems like no enough to eat or nowhere to live or no money.

Please don't poo poo rich people's first world problems.

Edited February 13, 2024 by Jamesc

[Jamesc]

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[Windwaver]

On 2/13/2024 at 12:11 PM, Playtime said:

But can you say it's not true that what you call job hopping... its called building portfolio ok😅... I've seen many cases work in real life, people who stay vs those who jumped. Jumpers do pretty well,  of cos sometimes people stay because of good friends and colleagues. 

It's a different world now and work cycles of all kinds are shortened. 

Jumpers put their own interest first, of cos bosses don't like that. 

Not when they quit at the first wall they run into at work. High IQ with low resilience is not useful at all.

I've come across good ones too; smart, capable and able to stay and contribute meaningfully to their roles.

However, I think the percentage of low resilience younger folks are getting higher as the decades pass.

[Ender]

On 2/13/2024 at 12:11 PM, Playtime said:

But can you say it's not true that what you call job hopping... its called building portfolio ok😅... I've seen many cases work in real life, people who stay vs those who jumped. Jumpers do pretty well,  of cos sometimes people stay because of good friends and colleagues. 

It's a different world now and work cycles of all kinds are shortened. 

Jumpers put their own interest first, of cos bosses don't like that. 

 

 

 

Just look how those arrived at c-suite. They don't get there by staying at the same job or even same company for a long time.

[Playtime]

On 2/14/2024 at 7:37 AM, Ender said:

Just look how those arrived at c-suite. They don't get there by staying at the same job or even same company for a long time.

Precisely... often they come,  fire the very same loyal old timers for outsourcing and cheap replacements. Get their special performance bonus for doing it, and are gone to repeat at another company 🙄.

Whether they are local or FT, doesnt change. But for ceca, it's in your face, Indian companies (dunno who invite 🤔)  will quickly come talk about outsourcing.🤦‍♂️

 

 

[Mkl22]

On 2/13/2024 at 7:43 AM, Windwaver said:

Just over the CNY weekend, we have a few friends that came.

In general, kids these days all seem to rely more on their parents even at older age; don't seem to grow up in personal development like old days.

With all that resilience gone, young people with a higher IQ is pretty much useless when they'll just simply give up when running into a problem in life or work.

They'll just quit and say it isn't good to stay in an organization for too long because it's bad for career development even before they get the hang of the job.

There are quite a handful of less than 1 year of service but still keep jumping, expecting $4K when they have nothing to show for except their high IQ? Or some even worse, IQ also quite average 

 

sometimes cannot blame them, as we also import lots who just use their mouth. talk talk talk... jabber jabber jabber. impress and smoke. but when it come to actionable items. all just push to others and blame other when things dont work.

[Windwaver]

On 2/14/2024 at 8:27 AM, Mkl22 said:

sometimes cannot blame them, as we also import lots who just use their mouth. talk talk talk... jabber jabber jabber. impress and smoke. but when it come to actionable items. all just push to others and blame other when things dont work.

That's pretty true, some don't treat this like their home country so it doesn't bother if they contribute or not.

There are some good foreign talents but its really hard to tell who are the good ones that will stay.

However, our young shouldn't use that as an excuse for lower resilience. This is our country after all , they will need to take over and lead Singapore into the future.

Higher intelligence is only useful with resilience.

[Windwaver]

On 2/14/2024 at 8:17 AM, Playtime said:

Precisely... often they come,  fire the very same loyal old timers for outsourcing and cheap replacements. Get their special performance bonus for doing it, and are gone to repeat at another company 🙄.

Whether they are local or FT, doesnt change. But for ceca, it's in your face, Indian companies (dunno who invite 🤔)  will quickly come talk about outsourcing.🤦‍♂️

We should then learn and play the same game isn't it? 

[inlinesix]

On 2/14/2024 at 12:20 PM, Windwaver said:

That's pretty true, some don't treat this like their home country so it doesn't bother if they contribute or not.

There are some good foreign talents but its really hard to tell who are the good ones that will stay.

However, our young shouldn't use that as an excuse for lower resilience. This is our country after all , they will need to take over and lead Singapore into the future.

Higher intelligence is only useful with resilience.

Overprotective children is the problem lo.

Tell kids to take public transport to school for a start