kobayashiGT Internal Moderator January 5 Share January 5 Mugen is preparing body kits, new exhausts, and other parts for the latest Honda Civic Type R. Source: https://www.motor1.com/news/703238/honda-civic-type-r-by-mugen-for-2024-tokyo-auto-salon/ Mugen has over 50 years of experience in tuning and motorsport. The company has turned its attention to the Civic Type R by bringing a pair of modified examples to the 2024 Tokyo Auto Salon that runs from January 12 through 14. They feature updated body kits and some mild performance tuning. Mugen calls the two flavors of modified Civic Type R the Group A and Group B. For now, there's only a single image of each car, but a video offers some additional details about each trim. Honda Civic Type R Group A by Mugen Honda Civic Type R Group B by Mugen The Group A kit is the milder one of the pair. Mugen adds a more aggressive front splitter and gives the front corner inlets a sharper shape. There are revised side sills and a reshaped wing out back. While not visible in this photo, the back bumper also has some styling changes. In all, it looks like something Honda could come up with for a special edition Type R from the factory. The Group B kit goes much further. It has the same front splitter and side inlets as the Group A, but there's also a carbon-fiber hood with lots of vents and slits. The top of the front fenders have additional openings to vent air from the wheel wells, while broad side sills give the flanks a more muscular appearance. Out back you'll find a tall wing and a modified bumper. The flamboyantly designed pieces give the Civic Type R a more stereotypical "tuner car" look that evokes the modded Civics from the early 2000s. These kits are not purely about aesthetics. Mugen used computational fluid dynamics to tune the pieces to help the Civic Type R's aerodynamic performance. The upgrades aren't limited to looks, either. Mugen is also developing new performance parts for the Type R. New dampers and BBS-sourced forged 19-inch wheels are part of the package. The Group A gets a stainless steel exhaust and new brake pads. The Group B has titanium pipes in addition to new brake calipers and rotors. Inside, the tuned Civic Type Rs feature a new steering wheel with Mugen branding on the bottom, bucket seats, a new shift knob, and carbon-fiber trim on the center console. Mugen will announce pricing for these parts at the Tokyo Auto Salon. We should also get a better look at the cars to see how much the body kits alter the Type R's appearance. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic January 5 Share January 5 Is the CTR still relevant? Many of the CTR enthusiast have now matured. Many are those who have experienced driving a manual gearbox. With modern cars now which are equip with faster self shifting gearbox and even faster accelerating EVs I wonder who will be interested in the CTR? For me reaching lao nang age, I will also think twice if I have to do the manual shifting. And my back and my butt probably couldnt take the hard and stiff ride. Have to squat down to get into the car will also be a challenge to my aging knees. LoL So back to my question, how relevant is the CTR today? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratovarius Turbocharged January 5 Share January 5 On 1/5/2024 at 9:46 AM, Watwheels said: Is the CTR still relevant? Many of the CTR enthusiast have now matured. Many are those who have experienced driving a manual gearbox. With modern cars now which are equip with faster self shifting gearbox and even faster accelerating EVs I wonder who will be interested in the CTR? For me reaching lao nang age, I will also think twice if I have to do the manual shifting. And my back and my butt probably couldnt take the hard and stiff ride. Have to squat down to get into the car will also be a challenge to my aging knees. LoL So back to my question, how relevant is the CTR today? To enthusiasts, cars more just more than machine. Numbers don't mean anything. Have full control of the revs in corners, satisfaction of rev matching and feel of the clunky gear into place is something those autos can't mimic. MT performance cars are always not relevant to the general public and they are not there to help the company make money. It is there to represent the company's heritage and history. Sadly only the japanese are still sticking manuals into their performance cars 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator January 5 Author Share January 5 On 1/5/2024 at 9:46 AM, Watwheels said: Is the CTR still relevant? Many of the CTR enthusiast have now matured. Many are those who have experienced driving a manual gearbox. With modern cars now which are equip with faster self shifting gearbox and even faster accelerating EVs I wonder who will be interested in the CTR? For me reaching lao nang age, I will also think twice if I have to do the manual shifting. And my back and my butt probably couldnt take the hard and stiff ride. Have to squat down to get into the car will also be a challenge to my aging knees. LoL So back to my question, how relevant is the CTR today? I believe they will attract a new batch of enthusiast. The 長江後浪推前浪. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilernie 4th Gear January 5 Share January 5 On 1/5/2024 at 9:46 AM, Watwheels said: Is the CTR still relevant? Many of the CTR enthusiast have now matured. Many are those who have experienced driving a manual gearbox. With modern cars now which are equip with faster self shifting gearbox and even faster accelerating EVs I wonder who will be interested in the CTR? For me reaching lao nang age, I will also think twice if I have to do the manual shifting. And my back and my butt probably couldnt take the hard and stiff ride. Have to squat down to get into the car will also be a challenge to my aging knees. LoL So back to my question, how relevant is the CTR today? I can attest to this. Nowadays not easy to find one reasonably price and good condition MT in the market. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged January 5 Share January 5 On 1/5/2024 at 9:46 AM, Watwheels said: Is the CTR still relevant? Many of the CTR enthusiast have now matured. Many are those who have experienced driving a manual gearbox. With modern cars now which are equip with faster self shifting gearbox and even faster accelerating EVs I wonder who will be interested in the CTR? For me reaching lao nang age, I will also think twice if I have to do the manual shifting. And my back and my butt probably couldnt take the hard and stiff ride. Have to squat down to get into the car will also be a challenge to my aging knees. LoL So back to my question, how relevant is the CTR today? Not so much miles per hour but smiles per hour. A manual still provides more engagement than a dual clutch transmission or an electric car and it delivers enjoyment that cannot easily be measured by a stopwatch or a ruler. End of the day, if it’s a numbers game buy an electric car and trash everyone off the line But everyone knows it’s the car and not you. But I will concede there are fewer people who understand what driving enjoyment means. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 5 Share January 5 On 1/5/2024 at 10:22 AM, Stratovarius said: To enthusiasts, cars more just more than machine. Numbers don't mean anything. Have full control of the revs in corners, satisfaction of rev matching and feel of the clunky gear into place is something those autos can't mimic. MT performance cars are always not relevant to the general public and they are not there to help the company make money. It is there to represent the company's heritage and history. Sadly only the japanese are still sticking manuals into their performance cars Not really. 911 Carrera T is a “entry level” sports car with MT and mechanical LSD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 5 Share January 5 On 1/5/2024 at 8:29 AM, kobayashiGT said: Mugen is preparing body kits, new exhausts, and other parts for the latest Honda Civic Type R. Source: https://www.motor1.com/news/703238/honda-civic-type-r-by-mugen-for-2024-tokyo-auto-salon/ Mugen has over 50 years of experience in tuning and motorsport. The company has turned its attention to the Civic Type R by bringing a pair of modified examples to the 2024 Tokyo Auto Salon that runs from January 12 through 14. They feature updated body kits and some mild performance tuning. Mugen calls the two flavors of modified Civic Type R the Group A and Group B. For now, there's only a single image of each car, but a video offers some additional details about each trim. Honda Civic Type R Group A by Mugen Honda Civic Type R Group B by Mugen The Group A kit is the milder one of the pair. Mugen adds a more aggressive front splitter and gives the front corner inlets a sharper shape. There are revised side sills and a reshaped wing out back. While not visible in this photo, the back bumper also has some styling changes. In all, it looks like something Honda could come up with for a special edition Type R from the factory. The Group B kit goes much further. It has the same front splitter and side inlets as the Group A, but there's also a carbon-fiber hood with lots of vents and slits. The top of the front fenders have additional openings to vent air from the wheel wells, while broad side sills give the flanks a more muscular appearance. Out back you'll find a tall wing and a modified bumper. The flamboyantly designed pieces give the Civic Type R a more stereotypical "tuner car" look that evokes the modded Civics from the early 2000s. These kits are not purely about aesthetics. Mugen used computational fluid dynamics to tune the pieces to help the Civic Type R's aerodynamic performance. The upgrades aren't limited to looks, either. Mugen is also developing new performance parts for the Type R. New dampers and BBS-sourced forged 19-inch wheels are part of the package. The Group A gets a stainless steel exhaust and new brake pads. The Group B has titanium pipes in addition to new brake calipers and rotors. Inside, the tuned Civic Type Rs feature a new steering wheel with Mugen branding on the bottom, bucket seats, a new shift knob, and carbon-fiber trim on the center console. Mugen will announce pricing for these parts at the Tokyo Auto Salon. We should also get a better look at the cars to see how much the body kits alter the Type R's appearance. The last Mugen RR is f stiff (hearsay). Most Lao Lang will complain back pain after 5 minutes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanChen 2nd Gear January 6 Share January 6 On 1/5/2024 at 9:46 AM, Watwheels said: Is the CTR still relevant? Many of the CTR enthusiast have now matured. Many are those who have experienced driving a manual gearbox. With modern cars now which are equip with faster self shifting gearbox and even faster accelerating EVs I wonder who will be interested in the CTR? For me reaching lao nang age, I will also think twice if I have to do the manual shifting. And my back and my butt probably couldnt take the hard and stiff ride. Have to squat down to get into the car will also be a challenge to my aging knees. LoL So back to my question, how relevant is the CTR today? if they stop making performance cat with manual gbox, i will not even wan to buy, just buy B&B its not about how fast, its about the fun. auto is boring i in my 40s, still driving my manual car, hope my left knee can last another 20 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator January 8 Author Share January 8 On 1/5/2024 at 10:52 PM, inlinesix said: The last Mugen RR is f stiff (hearsay). Most Lao Lang will complain back pain after 5 minutes hahaha. Now manual only appeal to lao lang, they have to take this into consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator January 8 Share January 8 On 1/8/2024 at 9:23 AM, kobayashiGT said: hahaha. Now manual only appeal to lao lang, they have to take this into consideration. effective anti theft device wor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 8 Share January 8 On 1/8/2024 at 9:23 AM, kobayashiGT said: hahaha. Now manual only appeal to lao lang, they have to take this into consideration. Lao Lang here is debating about ICE vs EV. No time for MT 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator January 8 Author Share January 8 On 1/8/2024 at 9:25 AM, inlinesix said: Lao Lang here is debating about ICE vs EV. No time for MT sorli, then siao lang? 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 8 Share January 8 On 1/8/2024 at 11:59 AM, kobayashiGT said: sorli, then siao lang? 😁 Siao Lang don't drive 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic January 8 Share January 8 On 1/8/2024 at 9:23 AM, kobayashiGT said: hahaha. Now manual only appeal to lao lang, they have to take this into consideration. I really curious those from 20-40. How many% have manual license also🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator January 8 Author Share January 8 On 1/8/2024 at 12:42 PM, inlinesix said: Siao Lang don't drive 😂 Hmmm. you driving me crazy. hahahaha. 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator January 8 Author Share January 8 On 1/8/2024 at 12:48 PM, Beregond said: I really curious those from 20-40. How many% have manual license also🤔 I drive manual lah. hahaha. So sure have 1% 😁 ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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