Breakdown in Cameron Highlands

[Sosaria]

On 1/1/2024 at 3:25 PM, RadX said:

Eh it is a safety and anti theft feature hor😂😂

Yes yes, if you drive a manual car with 3 pedals and gear shift, it is a strong anti-theft feature to thwart gen Z car-jackers

They won't know how to drive it away 

[inlinesix]

On 1/1/2024 at 8:11 PM, Ct3833 said:

@Hammerhammer ,did you end up have to repair the  car or brake in anyway ? Do share here.  My suspension is just a temporary  overheat of the braking system.

Bro, that’s so boomer le.

 

[13177]

Scary for your car to breakdown in overseas and out of nowhere in wee hours. Most importantly is everyone is safe, and no matter how much money you have paid for the towing, don't think too much, sometimes money is not the most important thing as it can be earned back. 

[BanCoe]

On 1/1/2024 at 8:44 PM, Hammerhammer said:

My car is from grab rental so I can't fix it myself. Have to tow back to Singapore and they will tow it back to Borneo. Not brake pad issue. I've been driving this car for a year now and done 100K km and up the mountain no less than 5 times. So not I dunno how to drive use brake too much instead of engine brake. Brake booster pump issue. 

So Grab gets all the issues fixed in their account ?? FOC ?? 

[Hammerhammer]

On 1/2/2024 at 5:23 AM, BanCoe said:

So Grab gets all the issues fixed in their account ?? FOC ?? 

Yeap. 

[Stary]

On 1/2/2024 at 5:49 AM, Hammerhammer said:

Yeap. 

Then towing charge should be under Grab right?  Why worry if the towing prices are reasonable or not......

 

[Hammerhammer]

On 1/2/2024 at 6:12 AM, Starry said:

Then towing charge should be under Grab right?  Why worry if the towing prices are reasonable or not......

 

Nope. They only cover towing in Singapore unless is accident in Malaysia then the insurance company will cover. 

[Kklee]

IMHO.
In drive mode B,  the engine will startup to provide more braking power. 

P.S.  The hybrid battery capacity is not very big,  there is only that much power it can store from regenerative braking. 
In the Corolla Cross Hybrid,  the hybrid battery will not be fully depleted nor fully charged. 

[Watwheels]

If brake booster pump failure before the failure happen there will surely be symptoms like you need to push harder on the brakes, longer braking distance, etc. 

[Kklee]

On 1/2/2024 at 8:28 AM, Watwheels said:

If brake booster pump failure before the failure happen there will surely be symptoms like you need to push harder on the brakes, longer braking distance, etc. 

IMHO.
Maybe got masked out by the hybrid braking system.  
Under normal condition,  the hydraulic brakes will be use at the very end just before stopping. 

[Cephas]

Does changing to higher temp brake pad and rotor help in such situation? 

I had a harrowing experience years back with my family going downhill at Genting.

The brake started slowing the car down over a longer distance and can smell the burning smell when we reached the bottom.

Luckily, it was a manual gear car I was driving and alternated the low gears to slow down the car.....hair was literally standing when realized the brake was ineffective 

Edited January 2, 2024 by Cephas

[Kb27]

On 1/2/2024 at 5:15 PM, Cephas said:

Does changing to higher temp brake pad and rotor help in such situation? 

I had a harrowing experience years back with my family going downhill at Genting.

The brake started slowing the car down over a longer distance and can smell the burning smell when we reached the bottom.

Luckily, it was a manual gear car I was driving and alternated the low gears to slow down the car.....hair was literally standing when realized the brake was ineffective 

I don't think so.

What happened could be your brake fluid is "boiling". Change your brake fluid regularly. DOT4 brake fluid absorbs more moisture than DOT3 from the air. When it bcums overloaded with moisture, it's the water that boils and you lose brake pressure under heavy braking. There are good brands of DOT4 brake fluid like ATE. And usually comes in metal can.

[kobayashiGT]

On 1/2/2024 at 5:15 PM, Cephas said:

Does changing to higher temp brake pad and rotor help in such situation? 

I had a harrowing experience years back with my family going downhill at Genting.

The brake started slowing the car down over a longer distance and can smell the burning smell when we reached the bottom.

Luckily, it was a manual gear car I was driving and alternated the low gears to slow down the car.....hair was literally standing when realized the brake was ineffective 

Then you ask yourself, how often you drive in such situation. . . The cons about have a better brake pad is the amount of brake dust. 

You need to learn braking technique or drive slower in such situation also. Cannot drive 120kmh on downslope at genting, and expect your brakes to works like normal. 

I think stock brakes are good enough alrd. Just need to make sure there is meat on your brake pads that's it. 

[inlinesix]

On 1/2/2024 at 5:51 PM, kobayashiGT said:

Then you ask yourself, how often you drive in such situation. . . The cons about have a better brake pad is the amount of brake dust. 

You need to learn braking technique or drive slower in such situation also. Cannot drive 120kmh on downslope at genting, and expect your brakes to works like normal. 

I think stock brakes are good enough alrd. Just need to make sure there is meat on your brake pads that's it. 

I cheong downslope from CH in a pickup truck.

No issue with brake fade when i reached flat land.

[Ct3833]

On 1/2/2024 at 5:15 PM, Cephas said:

Does changing to higher temp brake pad and rotor help in such situation? 

I had a harrowing experience years back with my family going downhill at Genting.

The brake started slowing the car down over a longer distance and can smell the burning smell when we reached the bottom.

Luckily, it was a manual gear car I was driving and alternated the low gears to slow down the car.....hair was literally standing when realized the brake was ineffective 

Using higher temperature brake pad will help to some extent but wont last you till you reach the foot hill. Using engine brake is still the way to go, otherwise no brake pads will help. Both manual and auto cars can use engine brake.

Will be good if of any experience EV and hybrid seniors could share their knowledge and experience here. Thanks in advance. 

[inlinesix]

On 1/2/2024 at 8:08 PM, Ct3833 said:

Using higher temperature brake pad will help to some extent but wont last you till you reach the foot hill. Using engine brake is still the way to go, otherwise no brake pads will help. Both manual and auto cars can use engine brake.

Will be good if of any experience EV and hybrid seniors could share their knowledge and experience here. Thanks in advance. 

A lot of driver will step on the brake along the descent.

That’s why you brake fade.

Just step hard at a sharp corner.

No engine braking for modern AT and CVT.

I drove a lot of time up CH with pickup.

No brake fade le

[Cephas]

🙏

[Kklee]

On 1/2/2024 at 8:08 PM, Ct3833 said:

Using higher temperature brake pad will help to some extent but wont last you till you reach the foot hill. Using engine brake is still the way to go, otherwise no brake pads will help. Both manual and auto cars can use engine brake.

Will be good if of any experience EV and hybrid seniors could share their knowledge and experience here. Thanks in advance. 

IMHO. AFAIK.
For Toyota Hybrid,  the braking system consist of the regenerative braking and hydraulic braking.   Under normal circumstances will be regenerative  braking and towards the end, before the vehicle is about to stop,  will be the hydraulic braking.   The braking, in a way, is computer controlled which determines if use regenerative or hydraulic.  E.g if the brake pedal is depressed hard enough,  it will trigger the hydraulic brakes.   In regenerative braking,  the generator motor is used to slow the vehicle down.  When the gear shifter is in B,   the engine may be activated for more braking force i.e. engine brake. 

It is said the for hybrid, there is actually very little brake dust - should be due to the hydraulic brakes being used less. 

P.S.  I am a Hybrid newbie. 🤣
P.S.  I was reading off the WWW, seems to have some issue with the earlier gen of Prius. 

There is still a lot to learn for Hybrid or EV,  this thread comes timely - now I am trying to find out how to test the hydraulic brakes.  Maybe be doing hills/mountains in the future.  Cameron Highlands is one of the place.