Chinese EV maker Zeekr’s cars to be sold in Singapore, with deliveries from Q3 2024

[Heartlander]

  On 10/24/2024 at 2:00 AM, Lala81 said:

It's the budget category and only really offered as PHV. Target audience is like indonesia/PH etc. 

BYD also makes budget car models directly as taxi. This one is like just 1 step up from that. 

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I do not think DC charging is available so common nowadays, most likely PHV drivers would be using AC charging overnight. But if need 13hrs to fully charge, not really suitable as PHV since daily mileage for a taxi is around 300km? If I am PHV driver, I would be having range anxiety issues daily if there is no DC charging near my house haha.

[inlinesix]

  On 10/24/2024 at 2:30 AM, Heartlander said:

Comapring to current gen EVs, the specs are really dino era.

From the specs sheet:

0-100km/h (s)   11.9

Charging Time             DC: CCS2 115kW | AC: Type 2 7kW DC: 1 hr 10 mins | AC: 13 hrs

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BMW 216:

0-100km/h (s)   11.9

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BYD Seal RWD

Battery Size: 82.56kw

AC Charging time: 15.2h

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AION Y

Battery size: 63.2kw

AC Charging time: 9.5h (@ 6.6kw)

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It is normal

[inlinesix]

  On 10/24/2024 at 2:35 AM, Heartlander said:

I do not think DC charging is available so common nowadays, most likely PHV drivers would be using AC charging overnight. But if need 13hrs to fully charge, not really suitable as PHV since daily mileage for a taxi is around 300km? If I am PHV driver, I would be having range anxiety issues daily if there is no DC charging near my house haha.

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The claim range is 440km. 

Give it a 20% discount, that will be 352km.

It is not difficult to find DC charger. 

Take 1 hour lunch break to charge car.

 

[Heartlander]

  On 10/24/2024 at 2:43 AM, inlinesix said:

BMW 216:

0-100km/h (s)   11.9

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BYD Seal RWD

Battery Size: 82.56kw

AC Charging time: 15.2h

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AION Y

Battery size: 63.2kw

AC Charging time: 9.5h (@ 6.6kw)

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It is normal

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I would not even consider any EV if its century sprint is more than 10sec, or ac charging need more than 10hrs. Anything lower is serious compromise unless no other choices such as using it for livelihood and no money for better options. 

To be specific, AC Max charging rate should not be lower than 11kW.  Seems BYD rides all only support 6.6kW to 7kW so charging very slow, same for other lower end Chinese EVs. EVs from Kia and Volkswagon and Denza and Skoda and Tesla all support 11kW so ac charging do not take that long. Something I learnt today.

[Heartlander]

 

[Lala81]

Byd m6 got 400 orders. Looks like a lot people can't wait liao. 

https://www.sgcarmart.com/articles/news/byd-m6-mpv-officially-launched-in-singapore-36005

 

[Lala81]

  On 10/24/2024 at 3:29 AM, Heartlander said:

I would not even consider any EV if its century sprint is more than 10sec, or ac charging need more than 10hrs. Anything lower is serious compromise unless no other choices such as using it for livelihood and no money for better options. 

To be specific, AC Max charging rate should not be lower than 11kW.  Seems BYD rides all only support 6.6kW to 7kW so charging very slow, same for other lower end Chinese EVs. EVs from Kia and Volkswagon and Denza and Skoda and Tesla all support 11kW so ac charging do not take that long. Something I learnt today.

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Home charging is usually 7kw? So maybe more relevant for those non landed who use public AC chargers. 

The AC charger at amk hub is 22kw which is on the high end of ac charging? 

Not well versed in this. 

[RadX]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:39 AM, Lala81 said:

Home charging is usually 7kw? So maybe more relevant for those non landed who use public AC chargers. 

The AC charger at amk hub is 22kw which is on the high end of ac charging? 

Not well versed in this. 

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Not all cars have that peak

 

even mine is on max 11kw. still better than the BYDs

 

home I use the 3.7kw by bluecharge. Perfect for overnight charge
 

that’s why the sp 43kw all being scrapped

 

 

[Lala81]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:40 AM, RadX said:

Not all cars have that peak

 

even mine is on max 11kw. still better than the BYDs

 

home I use the 3.7kw by bluecharge. Perfect for overnight charge
 

that’s why the sp 43kw all being scrapped

 

 

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43kw is ac or DC. 

[RadX]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:46 AM, Lala81 said:

43kw is ac or DC. 

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AC

 

jusr a handful around now as it doesn’t make sense to give that much if the max can’t handle

[inlinesix]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:39 AM, Lala81 said:

Home charging is usually 7kw? So maybe more relevant for those non landed who use public AC chargers. 

The AC charger at amk hub is 22kw which is on the high end of ac charging? 

Not well versed in this. 

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7kw AC is common.  11kw AC is still rare for public charging now.  Not many EV can do 11kw AC.

For 11kw AC, it will be halved once 2 cars charged from the same charging station.

When you are driving EV, it is charged as and when it is available.

Only newbie operates like ICE car.

 

[RadX]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:51 AM, inlinesix said:

7kw AC is common.  11kw AC is still rare for public charging now.  Not many EV can do 11kw AC.

For 11kw AC, it will be halved once 2 cars charged from the same charging station.

When you are driving EV, it is charged as and when it is available.

Only newbie operates like ICE car.

 

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As like @Theoldjaffa said

 

now I dun hv to make a trip to the station anymore 

 

home have charging

 

office have charging

 

if at shopping ctr I can decide if I want to charge or not.. mainly to get a lot😂

[Theoldjaffa]

  On 10/24/2024 at 1:27 AM, Heartlander said:

Currently if for Chinese EVs, I would consider only this Aion Y Plus and Mifa 7 and D9 due to different price point considerations. But Mix is the only one that really pique my interest due to revolutionary design and practicality, really one of a kind.

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Vincar is selling a good number of Aions. I was there today, saw like 3 or 4 people collecting their Aion.

[Theoldjaffa]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:36 AM, Lala81 said:

Byd m6 got 400 orders. Looks like a lot people can't wait liao. 

https://www.sgcarmart.com/articles/news/byd-m6-mpv-officially-launched-in-singapore-36005

 

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Cat A COE to infinity and beyond!

[Theoldjaffa]

  On 10/24/2024 at 9:56 AM, RadX said:

As like @Theoldjaffa said

 

now I dun hv to make a trip to the station anymore 

 

home have charging

 

office have charging

 

if at shopping ctr I can decide if I want to charge or not.. mainly to get a lot😂

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Go workshop also got charging

[Tianmo]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:36 AM, Lala81 said:

Byd m6 got 400 orders. Looks like a lot people can't wait liao. 

https://www.sgcarmart.com/articles/news/byd-m6-mpv-officially-launched-in-singapore-36005

 

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There is a road show at IMM, the M6 was fully surrounded when I was there. One lady went there to feel the car, and I think she bought there.

I think the M6 is base off the e6, but greatly improved. Not a very big car actually, and 3rd row quite sad. 

[Tianmo]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:39 AM, Lala81 said:

Home charging is usually 7kw? So maybe more relevant for those non landed who use public AC chargers. 

The AC charger at amk hub is 22kw which is on the high end of ac charging? 

Not well versed in this. 

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Yah, my area has quite a number of AC chargers at 22kwh, some even as high as 50kwh, but useless if the car limit is only 7kwh.

 

Edited October 24, 2024 by Tianmo

[Tianmo]

  On 10/24/2024 at 8:48 AM, RadX said:

AC

 

jusr a handful around now as it doesn’t make sense to give that much if the max can’t handle

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Yah lor, I have access to 2 x 50kwh AC , KNN got what use.