Carbon82 Moderator December 8, 2023 Share December 8, 2023 People as old as me would have remember the iconic Renault 5 in the 70s to mid 90s. I am not going to comment on its reliability not performance, since I have no chance to be in one, but good news for the fans of 5. Thus cutie beast is making a come back, abeit as an EV. Patent images published by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) show the subcompact model in its full retro-modern glory, which stays true to the concept car unveiled in January 2021. Compared to the concept, the production-intent revival of the R5 has lost the rear light bar on the tailgate to make way for a black trim piece. It has bigger side mirrors and traditional handles for the front doors instead of the sleeker ones on the concept that remained flush with the door panel. Mounted on the C-pillar, the handle for the rear doors is bigger now. The black roof and red accents indicate we’re looking at a high-end version of the small EV. It is worth noting the third-generation Renault 5 will be electric-only but won’t ride on a dedicated EV platform. The new hatch that’ll dust off a legendary moniker last used in 1996 will adapt the underpinnings of the Clio by sourcing as much as 70 percent of the hardware to slash production costs by nearly a third compared to the Zoe. The platform has been dubbed AmpR Small (formerly CMF-B EV). Unusual for a B-segment car, it's going to have a multi-link rear suspension, which should translate into sharper handling. ↡ Advertisement 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 9, 2023 Share December 9, 2023 Every car manufacturer in Europe is trying to build a 25k euro EV. To fight the byd dolphin. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic December 9, 2023 Share December 9, 2023 Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic December 9, 2023 Share December 9, 2023 (edited) How to beat the dolphin if they offer just another 25k EV? They need to offer a 20k EV Can never overtake someone if always just following them. Need to think out of the box Edited December 9, 2023 by Jamesc 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged December 10, 2023 Share December 10, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 8:48 PM, Carbon82 said: People as old as me would have remember the iconic Renault 5 in the 70s to mid 90s. I am not going to comment on its reliability not performance, since I have no chance to be in one, but good news for the fans of 5. Thus cutie beast is making a come back, abeit as an EV. Patent images published by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) show the subcompact model in its full retro-modern glory, which stays true to the concept car unveiled in January 2021. Compared to the concept, the production-intent revival of the R5 has lost the rear light bar on the tailgate to make way for a black trim piece. It has bigger side mirrors and traditional handles for the front doors instead of the sleeker ones on the concept that remained flush with the door panel. Mounted on the C-pillar, the handle for the rear doors is bigger now. The black roof and red accents indicate we’re looking at a high-end version of the small EV. It is worth noting the third-generation Renault 5 will be electric-only but won’t ride on a dedicated EV platform. The new hatch that’ll dust off a legendary moniker last used in 1996 will adapt the underpinnings of the Clio by sourcing as much as 70 percent of the hardware to slash production costs by nearly a third compared to the Zoe. The platform has been dubbed AmpR Small (formerly CMF-B EV). Unusual for a B-segment car, it's going to have a multi-link rear suspension, which should translate into sharper handling. The Honda E 3 dr also has a similar shape profile to the reincarnation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator December 11, 2023 Author Share December 11, 2023 No way European, Japanese and even Korean can compete with the Chinese in EV segment in the price aspect, at least in the next 5 - 10 years. During my recent trip to Qingdao, the street is full of new EVs (easily 40 to 50% of the new car are EVs) and many of them are unheard of. Yet the built and ride quality are above average B&B model when I rode in a few of these budget EVs. The only unknown factor is with its reliability. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieger 5th Gear December 30, 2023 Share December 30, 2023 Citroen Ev is one good example. The internal build is so dated and ... even the Korea Kia EV is way better. Unless Renault can do better, if not the BYD and Korea Ev will beat them flat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc888 4th Gear December 30, 2023 Share December 30, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 10:28 PM, Carbon82 said: No way European, Japanese and even Korean can compete with the Chinese in EV segment in the price aspect, at least in the next 5 - 10 years. During my recent trip to Qingdao, the street is full of new EVs (easily 40 to 50% of the new car are EVs) and many of them are unheard of. Yet the built and ride quality are above average B&B model when I rode in a few of these budget EVs. The only unknown factor is with its reliability. And China hold and refined most of the raw materials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged December 31, 2023 Share December 31, 2023 (edited) On 12/9/2023 at 8:56 AM, Jamesc said: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Most cars have identical shape from the past Edited December 31, 2023 by Sdf4786k 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 1 Share January 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 1 Share January 1 Fiat engineers! Sharp angular car die die must use round lights! Curvy car put round lights and angular car put square or better still pop up lights lah! Then it would be a good looking car and sell MORE! As a used car salesman I cannot sell ugly cars but good looking car walk off the lot themselves! And I get a better price. This Fiat could have been this Mazda if only the Fiat engineers understand aesthetics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 1 Share January 1 This stupid design by Fiat engineers was topped by a more stupid billboard advert by Fiat marketing! The giant billboard had - Designed by computer, built by robots and people sprayed - Driven by idiots! Just like the billboard below someone added - if this car as a lady, she will run you down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 1 Share January 1 Fiat marketing must have been all men that don't under equality! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass 6th Gear January 7 Share January 7 On 12/30/2023 at 7:58 PM, Krieger said: Citroen Ev is one good example. The internal build is so dated and ... even the Korea Kia EV is way better. Unless Renault can do better, if not the BYD and Korea Ev will beat them flat. Is it the Ami? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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