Singapore, China to set up mutual 30-day visa-free travel

[inlinesix]

On 12/8/2023 at 9:08 AM, bsswan said:

This was my thought....... how much cash-in-suitcase trips will we see? 😏Even just up to the declaration level.

I think there is a bank branch inside transit area.

 

[bsswan]

On 12/8/2023 at 11:14 AM, inlinesix said:

I think there is a bank branch inside transit area.

 

There are limits both to how much cash can be carried in and out, so it's as much to do with overseas customs as local.

That said, I don't remember any branch airside, only ATM and FXchange.... but I never walk around, just point-to-point.

[Davidklt]

Sure would have a lot to come in and do illegal short term work such as chef in Chinatown restaurants etc.

[Voodooman]

On 12/8/2023 at 1:25 PM, Davidklt said:

Sure would have a lot to come in and do illegal short term work such as chef in Chinatown restaurants etc.

Maybe for KTV business, like the highly prized Han Feizi 😂😂😂 but 30 days as chef, cannot even cover flight and other costs, unless he or she is a Michelin chef.  Those will come in legally on longer visa.

 

[inlinesix]

On 12/8/2023 at 2:20 PM, Voodooman said:

Maybe for KTV business, like the highly prized Han Feizi 😂😂😂 but 30 days as chef, cannot even cover flight and other costs, unless he or she is a Michelin chef.  Those will come in legally on longer visa.

I think he is talking about overstayer.

[Benarsenal]

On 12/8/2023 at 1:25 PM, Davidklt said:

Sure would have a lot to come in and do illegal short term work such as chef in Chinatown restaurants etc.

Those are ok, at least providing a service.

Much better than those jiak liao bee people who come here and create trouble.

[Kopites]

On 12/8/2023 at 2:20 PM, Voodooman said:

Maybe for KTV business, like the highly prized Han Feizi 😂😂😂 but 30 days as chef, cannot even cover flight and other costs, unless he or she is a Michelin chef.  Those will come in legally on longer visa.

 

30 days so short? 🤣🤣🤣🤣  A day or two holiday once a month won't do any harm. 

Be prepare for longer queue (jam) at our dear causeway custom to JB. 😁 

 

[Kopites]

On 12/8/2023 at 3:58 PM, inlinesix said:

I think he is talking about overstayer.

Visa, yes you would see overstayers. 

Without visa there won't be anyone class as overstayer. 

[inlinesix]

On 12/9/2023 at 7:15 AM, Kopites said:

Visa, yes you would see overstayers. 

Without visa there won't be anyone class as overstayer. 

Upon entry into the country, it is stated how many days 1 is allowed to stay.

That is regardless of visa or visa free.

[Playtime]

On 12/8/2023 at 2:20 PM, Voodooman said:

Maybe for KTV business, like the highly prized Han Feizi 😂😂😂 but 30 days as chef, cannot even cover flight and other costs, unless he or she is a Michelin chef.  Those will come in legally on longer visa.

 

At a conservative 130 per hour for mass market. 8 cus a day is 1000.

Minus cost... Could do 20000 per visit 🤔

[Voodooman]

On 12/9/2023 at 9:52 AM, Playtime said:

At a conservative 130 per hour for mass market. 8 cus a day is 1000.

Minus cost... Could do 20000 per visit 🤔

Wah, you are very familiar with the market rate, I hv no idea.

But I know can stay at Sails means got big money. 😂😂😂

[Playtime]

On 12/9/2023 at 10:54 AM, Voodooman said:

Wah, you are very familiar with the market rate, I hv no idea.

But I know can stay at Sails means got big money. 😂😂😂

Brother.... inflation and market segmentation la bro...

Avg 130 type is small condo or shophouse etc. Economy class.

Stay Sail type... it's first class. Easy 4 or 5 times price even. Sky's the limit 😆..  friends tell me one la...

 

[Davidklt]

On 12/8/2023 at 2:20 PM, Voodooman said:

Maybe for KTV business, like the highly prized Han Feizi 😂😂😂 but 30 days as chef, cannot even cover flight and other costs, unless he or she is a Michelin chef.  Those will come in legally on longer visa.

 

You didnt get into the real numbers or understand the ground situation.

This is one of the examples I am quoting and I have seen this in real life.

A PRC national bought / set up an eatery here in Singapore. Some of his relatives/friends that visited him using 探亲 visa are actually working casually in his eatery as chefs and cashiers. To shave accommodation costs, they stay with him. Best of all, the owner doesnt need to pay CPF, foreign worker levy etc and they get some help around.

And it is so hard for MOM to enforce. 

With the visa waiver, this would just open the floodgates. There are so many PRC restaurants and stalls in Chinatown. 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2023 by Davidklt

[Playtime]

 

A different take on the subject. 

I guess it remains to be seen if in mass practice its blanket or selective. 

 

[Playtime]

On 12/9/2023 at 12:43 PM, Davidklt said:

You didnt get into the real numbers or understand the ground situation.

This is one of the examples I am quoting and I have seen this in real life.

A PRC national bought / set up an eatery here in Singapore. Some of his relatives/friends that visited him using 探亲 visa are actually work casually in his eatery as chefs and cashiers. To shave accommodation costs, they stay with him. Best of all, the owner doesnt need to pay CPF, foreign worker levy etc and they get some help around.

And it is so hard for MOM to enforce. 

With the visa waiver, this would just open this floodgates. There are so many PRC restaurants and stalls in Chinatown. 

 

 

No diff from sex industry... except this will eat into regular work space. 🤔

[Mkl22]

On 12/9/2023 at 12:43 PM, Davidklt said:

You didnt get into the real numbers or understand the ground situation.

This is one of the examples I am quoting and I have seen this in real life.

A PRC national bought / set up an eatery here in Singapore. Some of his relatives/friends that visited him using 探亲 visa are actually working casually in his eatery as chefs and cashiers. To shave accommodation costs, they stay with him. Best of all, the owner doesnt need to pay CPF, foreign worker levy etc and they get some help around.

And it is so hard for MOM to enforce. 

With the visa waiver, this would just open the floodgates. There are so many PRC restaurants and stalls in Chinatown. 

 

 

They game the system. All I can say scholars are dumb not to see it.

[inlinesix]

On 12/9/2023 at 12:43 PM, Davidklt said:

You didnt get into the real numbers or understand the ground situation.

This is one of the examples I am quoting and I have seen this in real life.

A PRC national bought / set up an eatery here in Singapore. Some of his relatives/friends that visited him using 探亲 visa are actually working casually in his eatery as chefs and cashiers. To shave accommodation costs, they stay with him. Best of all, the owner doesnt need to pay CPF, foreign worker levy etc and they get some help around.

And it is so hard for MOM to enforce. 

With the visa waiver, this would just open the floodgates. There are so many PRC restaurants and stalls in Chinatown. 

Did you report to ICA or MOM?

[13177]

On 12/9/2023 at 12:43 PM, Davidklt said:

You didnt get into the real numbers or understand the ground situation.

This is one of the examples I am quoting and I have seen this in real life.

A PRC national bought / set up an eatery here in Singapore. Some of his relatives/friends that visited him using 探亲 visa are actually working casually in his eatery as chefs and cashiers. To shave accommodation costs, they stay with him. Best of all, the owner doesnt need to pay CPF, foreign worker levy etc and they get some help around.

And it is so hard for MOM to enforce. 

With the visa waiver, this would just open the floodgates. There are so many PRC restaurants and stalls in Chinatown. 

 

 

Indeed difficult for the authorities to catch all, so usually when people know such things happening, must report to the authorities.