2024 camry

[camrysfe]

On 7/10/2024 at 4:51 PM, Samlimlp said:

Where does these new Camrys coming from? I thought Toyota announced Japan will longer produce Camry? If you look into Toyota.JP website, there is no more Camry......

As I understand Bonea takes from Thailand......

its from japan. It seems like the same model as the one in taiwan rather than the china model.

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[Invigorated]

the camry facelift does look better than the previous gen but the competition has caught up, especially the china and other makes offering better tech, interiors and value, just look at the seal, tesla model 3. Only selling point toyota has is reliability but once other brands prove themselves to be reliable, toyota risks going the kodak way.. 

this variant at 22k depre is unlikely to sell very well and Borneo likely knows it too. at this kind of depre, you can already get a used lexus es hybrid. that's why this thread is quite quiet too.

[inlinesix]

On 7/13/2024 at 11:15 AM, Invigorated said:

the camry facelift does look better than the previous gen but the competition has caught up, especially the china and other makes offering better tech, interiors and value, just look at the seal, tesla model 3. Only selling point toyota has is reliability but once other brands prove themselves to be reliable, toyota risks going the kodak way.. 

this variant at 22k depre is unlikely to sell very well and Borneo likely knows it too. at this kind of depre, you can already get a used lexus es hybrid. that's why this thread is quite quiet too.

https://paultan.org/2024/07/11/honda-to-close-thai-plant-as-chinese-competition-mounts-remaining-factory-to-be-retooled-for-hybrids/
Tesla Model 3 RWD at 190k with $17k Depreciation.

[inlinesix]

Nerdy video

 

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[Junning]

Hi all, Review by Straits Times Christopher Tan

The Straits Times Published 24 Aug 2024 by Christopher Tan

 

After test-driving a barrage of super high-tech electric cars with more bells and whistles than an ice-cream van operated by a retired football referee, I find Toyota’s new Camry to be a major reset.

 

Like all previous generations, the ninth iteration of Toyota’s executive saloon is predictably boring. But “boring” can be a good thing. Boring is like the comfort of your own bed after an adrenaline-soaked adventure in the Amazon.

 

As with most Toyota cars, the latest Camry holds no surprises. Everything works as it should.

 

The touch-activated door handles work each and every time. The brake auto-hold function is activated once and the car remembers it the next time you get in. Same goes for the air-conditioning recirculation button. Boring, really.

 

The infotainment system has wireless Apple CarPlay, but Android Auto is available only with a cabled connection. Still, it connects wirelessly to my Samsung for calls and music streaming flawlessly and unfailingly. Even after you have not used the car for 12 hours. Imagine that.

 

The touchscreen responds to the lightest tap and you never have to do so more than once. The wireless phone-charging cradle offers fast charging when compared with so many other cars fitted with the same device. Yawn.

 

The infotainment menu is minimalist compared with the laptop-on-wheels the world has been getting of late. Yet, there is nothing I wish the car had.

 

Okay, correction. I do wish its boot could be opened from behind. I mean, even my 18½-year-old Toyota Wish can be opened this way.

 

But Camry designers are sticking to their guns, requiring you to open the boot with a button near the steering wheel and the remote key.

 

Once opened, you will find another predictably Camry thing: wide access and expansive stowage. A bi-fold bicycle goes in there without you having to detach its handlebar. It is that big.

 

Space is not in short supply in the cabin either. The Camry remains one of the roomiest cars in its price segment. Think of it as an automotive equivalent to the HDB executive flat you wish you had bought in the 1980s.

 

But, like most combustion engine cars, the middle occupant of the second row has to contend with a sizeable transmission tunnel.

 

The new Camry’s dimensions are identical to its predecessor’s, except for a 15mm increase in length to 4,920mm. This is probably associated with the car’s Prius-like styling.

 

It is suitably furnished. The test car’s tan upholstery is a nice touch of luxury that is more commonly associated with the Camry’s Lexus ES twin.

 

Premium features on board include adaptive cruise control – which works well even in a U-turn – head-up display, ventilated front seats and a 360-degree camera with a transparent representation of the car for effortless parking or making three-point turns in narrow lanes.

 

A safety feature worth mentioning is emergency reversing braking, which has prevented me more than once from running over a scooter that comes out from nowhere while I am reversing.

 

Despite its size, the Camry is easy to drive – another boring Toyota trait no one talks about. The positioning of its A-pillars and wing mirrors, for instance, lets you see the kerb clearly – a basic necessity which not all car designers deem crucial.

 

Its hybrid drivetrain produces 20hp more power. Toyota says this is achieved by reducing friction and weight of engine components.

 

The new car also gets a lithium battery which allows for a faster discharge rate than the previous nickel-metal hydride unit. Hence, 0-100kmh is now achieved in 7.2 seconds, versus 8.5 seconds previously.

 

The car is pleasingly responsive, dishing out the oomph of a lightly turbocharged car, but with far better efficiency. Its ride and handling quality remain shockingly uneventful, with a fine blend of comfort and dynamism.

 

The test car averages 5 litres/100km, which is better than Toyota’s stated 5.1 and better than the 5.2 its predecessor achieved. This is remarkable, given the new car’s higher performance.

 

If this is boring, I wish more cars were like it.

 

Toyota Camry Hybrid

Price: From $246,888 with COE

Engine: 2,487cc 16-valve inline-4 paired with electric motor

Transmission: Continuously variable with paddle shift

Power: 227hp (rpm range unavailable)

Torque: 221Nm at 3,600-5,200rpm

0-100kmh: 7.2 seconds

Top speed: 180kmh

Fuel consumption: 5.1 litres/100km

Agent: Borneo Motors

Rating: ★★★★☆

 

Comparable considerations

Honda Accord

The Accord is a close rival. Powered by a 1.5-litre turbocharged engine, it attracts less road tax, but is not quite as punchy as the Camry. Neither is it as fuel-efficient. Although it is made in Thailand, it matches the build quality of the Camry, which now hails from Japan. At $295,999 with COE (August first tender), it costs a fair bit more than the Camry. It has fewer moving parts than the Camry, which could mean lower maintenance cost in the long run.

 

Mazda 6

Despite being long in the tooth, the Japan-made 6 is still a handsome contender which drives like a Continental car. The 2-litre car will save you a bit on road tax, but its fuel bills will be somewhat heftier. It is priced competitively from $248,888 with COE (August first tender), but is not as feature-rich nor as spacious as the Camry. If, however, you prioritise driving fun, the 6 is worth considering. Like the Accord, it has fewer moving parts than the Camry.

Edited August 25, 2024 by Junning

[Invigorated]

On 8/25/2024 at 10:41 AM, Junning said:

Hi all, Review by Straits Times Christopher Tan

at near 250k, there are just too many other options though undeniably, the new variant is very well specced compared to previous generation.

[Cook123]

On 8/25/2024 at 10:41 AM, Junning said:

Hi all, Review by Straits Times Christopher Tan

The Straits Times Published 24 Aug 2024 by Christopher Tan

 

After test-driving a barrage of super high-tech electric cars with more bells and whistles than an ice-cream van operated by a retired football referee, I find Toyota’s new Camry to be a major reset.

 

Like all previous generations, the ninth iteration of Toyota’s executive saloon is predictably boring. But “boring” can be a good thing. Boring is like the comfort of your own bed after an adrenaline-soaked adventure in the Amazon.

 

As with most Toyota cars, the latest Camry holds no surprises. Everything works as it should.

 

The touch-activated door handles work each and every time. The brake auto-hold function is activated once and the car remembers it the next time you get in. Same goes for the air-conditioning recirculation button. Boring, really.

 

The infotainment system has wireless Apple CarPlay, but Android Auto is available only with a cabled connection. Still, it connects wirelessly to my Samsung for calls and music streaming flawlessly and unfailingly. Even after you have not used the car for 12 hours. Imagine that.

 

The touchscreen responds to the lightest tap and you never have to do so more than once. The wireless phone-charging cradle offers fast charging when compared with so many other cars fitted with the same device. Yawn.

 

The infotainment menu is minimalist compared with the laptop-on-wheels the world has been getting of late. Yet, there is nothing I wish the car had.

 

Okay, correction. I do wish its boot could be opened from behind. I mean, even my 18½-year-old Toyota Wish can be opened this way.

 

But Camry designers are sticking to their guns, requiring you to open the boot with a button near the steering wheel and the remote key.

 

Once opened, you will find another predictably Camry thing: wide access and expansive stowage. A bi-fold bicycle goes in there without you having to detach its handlebar. It is that big.

 

Space is not in short supply in the cabin either. The Camry remains one of the roomiest cars in its price segment. Think of it as an automotive equivalent to the HDB executive flat you wish you had bought in the 1980s.

 

But, like most combustion engine cars, the middle occupant of the second row has to contend with a sizeable transmission tunnel.

 

The new Camry’s dimensions are identical to its predecessor’s, except for a 15mm increase in length to 4,920mm. This is probably associated with the car’s Prius-like styling.

 

It is suitably furnished. The test car’s tan upholstery is a nice touch of luxury that is more commonly associated with the Camry’s Lexus ES twin.

 

Premium features on board include adaptive cruise control – which works well even in a U-turn – head-up display, ventilated front seats and a 360-degree camera with a transparent representation of the car for effortless parking or making three-point turns in narrow lanes.

 

A safety feature worth mentioning is emergency reversing braking, which has prevented me more than once from running over a scooter that comes out from nowhere while I am reversing.

 

Despite its size, the Camry is easy to drive – another boring Toyota trait no one talks about. The positioning of its A-pillars and wing mirrors, for instance, lets you see the kerb clearly – a basic necessity which not all car designers deem crucial.

 

Its hybrid drivetrain produces 20hp more power. Toyota says this is achieved by reducing friction and weight of engine components.

 

The new car also gets a lithium battery which allows for a faster discharge rate than the previous nickel-metal hydride unit. Hence, 0-100kmh is now achieved in 7.2 seconds, versus 8.5 seconds previously.

 

The car is pleasingly responsive, dishing out the oomph of a lightly turbocharged car, but with far better efficiency. Its ride and handling quality remain shockingly uneventful, with a fine blend of comfort and dynamism.

 

The test car averages 5 litres/100km, which is better than Toyota’s stated 5.1 and better than the 5.2 its predecessor achieved. This is remarkable, given the new car’s higher performance.

 

If this is boring, I wish more cars were like it.

 

Toyota Camry Hybrid

Price: From $246,888 with COE

Engine: 2,487cc 16-valve inline-4 paired with electric motor

Transmission: Continuously variable with paddle shift

Power: 227hp (rpm range unavailable)

Torque: 221Nm at 3,600-5,200rpm

0-100kmh: 7.2 seconds

Top speed: 180kmh

Fuel consumption: 5.1 litres/100km

Agent: Borneo Motors

Rating: ★★★★☆

 

Comparable considerations

Honda Accord

The Accord is a close rival. Powered by a 1.5-litre turbocharged engine, it attracts less road tax, but is not quite as punchy as the Camry. Neither is it as fuel-efficient. Although it is made in Thailand, it matches the build quality of the Camry, which now hails from Japan. At $295,999 with COE (August first tender), it costs a fair bit more than the Camry. It has fewer moving parts than the Camry, which could mean lower maintenance cost in the long run.

 

Mazda 6

Despite being long in the tooth, the Japan-made 6 is still a handsome contender which drives like a Continental car. The 2-litre car will save you a bit on road tax, but its fuel bills will be somewhat heftier. It is priced competitively from $248,888 with COE (August first tender), but is not as feature-rich nor as spacious as the Camry. If, however, you prioritise driving fun, the 6 is worth considering. Like the Accord, it has fewer moving parts than the Camry.

the 295k Honda accord should be the all new 2L hybrid one instead of the older 1.5L turbocharged one

[Junning]

On 8/25/2024 at 1:46 PM, Cook123 said:

the 295k Honda accord should be the all new 2L hybrid one instead of the older 1.5L turbocharged one

Hi Cook123, Yes, ST has a typo. New Accord is 2L Hybrid.

https://www.honda.com.sg/new-cars/sedan/accord.html

https://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/pricelist/13/2024-08-23.pdf

[camrysfe]

On 8/25/2024 at 2:21 PM, Junning said:

Hi Cook123, Yes, ST has a typo. New Accord is 2L Hybrid.

https://www.honda.com.sg/new-cars/sedan/accord.html

https://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/pricelist/13/2024-08-23.pdf

Is the new accord and Camry in the showroom already?

[Junning]

On 8/25/2024 at 6:24 PM, camrysfe said:

Is the new accord and Camry in the showroom already?

Hi camrysfe, It's still "underwrap" some where in the AD. Perhaps both are awaiting to officially debut during upcoming "The Car Expo"?

 

[Rickster]

Looks much better than the existing model. Clean, modern look.... if only the interior is just as modern. But i guess the camry designers clearly know who the target audience is.

[Rickster]

On 7/13/2024 at 11:15 AM, Invigorated said:

the camry facelift does look better than the previous gen but the competition has caught up, especially the china and other makes offering better tech, interiors and value, just look at the seal, tesla model 3. Only selling point toyota has is reliability but once other brands prove themselves to be reliable, toyota risks going the kodak way.. 

this variant at 22k depre is unlikely to sell very well and Borneo likely knows it too. at this kind of depre, you can already get a used lexus es hybrid. that's why this thread is quite quiet too.

The road tax isn't helping too. But there will still be not-so-young cash rich people who are willing to go for it. The Camry designers are smart... they know who their target audience are.

Not many not-so-young people fancy those high-tech and flashy cabins of cars from BYD and their Chinese compatriots etc.

Edited August 26, 2024 by Rickster

[camrysfe]

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[Themman]

On 8/25/2024 at 10:41 AM, Junning said:

Toyota Camry Hybrid

Price: From $246,888 with COE

Engine: 2,487cc 16-valve inline-4 paired with electric motor

Transmission: Continuously variable with paddle shift

Power: 227hp (rpm range unavailable)

Torque: 221Nm at 3,600-5,200rpm

0-100kmh: 7.2 seconds

Top speed: 180kmh

Fuel consumption: 5.1 litres/100km

Agent: Borneo Motors

Rating: ★★★★☆

 

I last check with SA in C&C for C180 just 2 weeks ago, they are offering C180 at $250k, with or without trade-in.

Not a badge whore myself but somehow find this interesting comparison with this 2024 camry PROMOTION.

 

[inlinesix]

On 8/29/2024 at 11:49 AM, Themman said:

I last check with SA in C&C for C180 just 2 weeks ago, they are offering C180 at $250k, with or without trade-in.

Not a badge whore myself but somehow find this interesting comparison with this 2024 camry PROMOTION.

Merc cheaper than Honda

😂