ConnorMcLeod 2nd Gear October 19, 2023 Share October 19, 2023 my Altis has only done 90k km, and now the 3rd set of wheel bearing on the front left tire is starting to make noise again. a month ago, i noticed the front left tire thread was very worn out and change a new set of tires. Probably the new tires are more quiet and I hear the wheel bearing noise immediate after the tire change. the last repair was less than 20k km ago!! these things are suppose to last long enough for our 10yr COE in most cases. I believe changing the wheel bearing is not solving the root , and the bearing will fail again in next 20k km. what else could be the cause and cost to repair? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic October 19, 2023 Share October 19, 2023 Maybe the mechanic mangled the hub? Buy a new hub and bearing together. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic October 19, 2023 Share October 19, 2023 @ConnorMcLeod bad wheel alignment can damage bearing. Do an alignment might help. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 19, 2023 Share October 19, 2023 @ConnorMcLeod Did workshop used Original Wheel Bearing.? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorMcLeod 2nd Gear October 20, 2023 Author Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 6:08 AM, Ct3833 said: @ConnorMcLeod bad wheel alignment can damage bearing. Do an alignment might help. thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorMcLeod 2nd Gear October 20, 2023 Author Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 7:07 AM, ER-3682 said: @ConnorMcLeod Did workshop used Original Wheel Bearing.? afaik they did. however it seems they needed to assemble it somehow ( with the existing nest(?) ) so can be workmanship too. the two repairs were done at Borneo n outside workshop in this sequence, so i tjink not really workmanship is the issue in the second reoair but something else. i dont recall either mentiondid wheel alignment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratovarius Turbocharged October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 6:08 AM, Ct3833 said: @ConnorMcLeod bad wheel alignment can damage bearing. Do an alignment might help. Agree. My first thought is alignment as well. But it should be felt before any significant damage done to the wheel bearings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:15 AM, ConnorMcLeod said: afaik they did. however it seems they needed to assemble it somehow ( with the existing nest(?) ) so can be workmanship too. the two repairs were done at Borneo n outside workshop in this sequence, so i tjink not really workmanship is the issue in the second reoair but something else. i dont recall either mentiondid wheel alignment. Does you car go straight om expressway or it has slight tendency to go left or right ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:15 AM, ConnorMcLeod said: afaik they did. however it seems they needed to assemble it somehow ( with the existing nest(?) ) so can be workmanship too. the two repairs were done at Borneo n outside workshop in this sequence, so i tjink not really workmanship is the issue in the second reoair but something else. i dont recall either mentiondid wheel alignment. If they need to assemble it then it is not original. FYI original comes complete with the ball bearing already fixed onto the hub assembly. What the mechanic does is direct part replacement, no need to dismantle or assemble any part. Not original means the workshop use hydraulic press to remove the damaged ball bearing (from the original hub)and replaced it with an OEM ball bearing. The ball bearing place of origin will play a huge part on how lasting it is. They can come from China, Malaysia or Japan. It is all about price. Using this method will save some money but they usually do not last long. Original Toyota parts will last for a long long time. Are you using stock rims? If you are some aftermarket offset rims it can cause premature failure too. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorMcLeod 2nd Gear October 20, 2023 Author Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:38 AM, Watwheels said: If they need to assemble it then it is not original. FYI original comes complete with the ball bearing already fixed onto the hub assembly. What the mechanic does is direct part replacement, no need to dismantle or assemble any part. Not original means the workshop use hydraulic press to remove the damaged ball bearing (from the original hub)and replaced it with an OEM ball bearing. The ball bearing place of origin will play a huge part on how lasting it is. They can come from China, Malaysia or Japan. It is all about price. Using this method will save some money but they usually do not last long. Original Toyota parts will last for a long long time. Are you using stock rims? If you are some aftermarket offset rims it can cause premature failure too. Thanks. indeed i think they mention "press" so matches with your mention of hydraulic press. i use stock rim. usual damage due to turning too early hit kerb for a few times etc , but nothing seriously hard until rim also crushed. can the parts at the wheel (not just the ball bearing) withstand these common driving mistakes ? at about 40k-50k km. car mileage, i had the bearing repaired at borneo. it only pasted to about 70k km. means quality of ball bearing is still not the only causing to the early damage , i still worry something else is damaged and causes the wheel noy to spin the way it should ( it may be my imagination but i feel the problem wheel vibrates when I drive ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorMcLeod 2nd Gear October 20, 2023 Author Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:27 AM, Ct3833 said: Does you car go straight om expressway or it has slight tendency to go left or right ? straight. when i brake is also straight, no pulling to one side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorMcLeod 2nd Gear October 20, 2023 Author Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:38 AM, Watwheels said: If they need to assemble it then it is not original. FYI original comes complete with the ball bearing already fixed onto the hub assembly. What the mechanic does is direct part replacement, no need to dismantle or assemble any part. Not original means the workshop use hydraulic press to remove the damaged ball bearing (from the original hub)and replaced it with an OEM ball bearing. The ball bearing place of origin will play a huge part on how lasting it is. They can come from China, Malaysia or Japan. It is all about price. Using this method will save some money but they usually do not last long. Original Toyota parts will last for a long long time. Are you using stock rims? If you are some aftermarket offset rims it can cause premature failure too. any clue how much it would cause to chamge ball bearing at borneo motors ? or even the hub ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:47 AM, ConnorMcLeod said: Thanks. indeed i think they mention "press" so matches with your mention of hydraulic press. i use stock rim. usual damage due to turning too early hit kerb for a few times etc , but nothing seriously hard until rim also crushed. can the parts at the wheel (not just the ball bearing) withstand these common driving mistakes ? at about 40k-50k km. car mileage, i had the bearing repaired at borneo. it only pasted to about 70k km. means quality of ball bearing is still not the only causing to the early damage , i still worry something else is damaged and causes the wheel noy to spin the way it should ( it may be my imagination but i feel the problem wheel vibrates when I drive ) Of course, hitting kerb will cause it to fail prematurely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:49 AM, ConnorMcLeod said: any clue how much it would cause to chamge ball bearing at borneo motors ? or even the hub ? You are feeling rich? Why do it at BM? Here in mcf got the Toyota parts sponsors. You just give them a call but must get your e-logcard ready as they will ask for chassis number. After purchasing the original part go to your regular workshop and get them to replace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 The bearing should come together with the hub assembly itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 9:01 AM, Watwheels said: You are feeling rich? Why do it at BM? Here in mcf got the Toyota parts sponsors. You just give them a call but must get your e-logcard ready as they will ask for chassis number. After purchasing the original part go to your regular workshop and get them to replace. Maybe under Warranty...so Borneo Motor did Goodwill for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:49 AM, ConnorMcLeod said: any clue how much it would cause to chamge ball bearing at borneo motors ? or even the hub ? hub is very cheap compare to the rest of many other car parts, and bearing is even cheaper, even if borneo is expensive, it probably wont cost you more than 400 or 500 to replace both. You can ask them for a quote before letting them do the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 (edited) On 10/20/2023 at 9:04 AM, Heartbreakid said: The bearing should come together with the hub assembly itself. I think he is referring to the wheel hub for the bearing , not the housing(rongs) for the balls. Edited October 20, 2023 by Ct3833 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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