EV Road Trip to Malaysia (KL and beyond)

[Voodooman]

On 8/21/2023 at 5:28 PM, Lethalstrike said:

@Voodooman

My own experience driving up to KL with a XC40 Recharge is as below,

1. The journey up adds another 2 hrs due to the charging stops required, vs an ICE car. Upside is I get to rest a bit more if I'm not rushing. But if I have companions with ICE cars, they will have to wait for me. Note I factor in quite a lot of range buffer to be absolutely safe. On a Model Y, probably you can get away with 1 stop strategy on the way to KL, but it may leave you very little margin for error (such as planned charging station is down, in-use or other reasons)

2. Cruising speed i just put it to 110km/h and with adaptive cruise control turned on for best efficiency. If I drive at 150km/h as what i used to do in an ICE car, the electric consumption goes to shit. Kinda expected since 60% of the expended energy of an EV is to overcome air resistance. The higher the speed, the greater the air resistance

3. Make sure tire pressures are up to mark 

4. Jom Charge DC fast chargers I've tried. App is pretty good and seamless. You also won't go wrong with the planned Petronas and Shell DC fast chargers. 

5. Contrary to my expectations, the car doesn't actually eats a lot of battery when its stuck in stop/start traffic jam. Propulsion is still the main contributor for battery consumption

6. Advertised range is always very different from reality, across all EVs. If Tesla says Model Y is rated for 500km WLTP, you can be sure to minus 20% from it for the realistic range. That means 400km from 100% to 0%. Obviously, you won't risk to only charge when you are at 0%. So assume the minimal will be at 10% left. Thus its 360km worth of range from 100% to 10%. If you whack the car hard on NSH, it will surely be lesser than 360km 🤣

From my own experience for bringing an EV for trips up north, I would say it is still not quite ready yet for those who are impatient and really just want to get up and go. You need to plan a bit more ahead. 

Thanks for the long post. It is very informative coming from someone who has done such a trip in an EV.

Yes, the plan is to stopover once and take the anxiety off the trip, likely at Petronas' Ayer Hitam station up and down. Once we are in KL, charging won't be an issue. 

Just wondering why 2 hours delay one way given the Jom/ Caltex facilities are just next to NSHW without much detour, was it the waiting for an available charger or more of charging taking time.
 

Happy to hear other stopover sites that have more than 1 fast charger

[Lethalstrike]

On 8/21/2023 at 7:32 PM, Voodooman said:

Thanks for the long post. It is very informative coming from someone who has done such a trip in an EV.

Yes, the plan is to stopover once and take the anxiety off the trip, likely at Petronas' Ayer Hitam station up and down. Once we are in KL, charging won't be an issue. 

Just wondering why 2 hours delay one way given the Jom/ Caltex facilities are just next to NSHW without much detour, was it the waiting for an available charger or more of charging taking time.
 

Happy to hear other stopover sites that have more than 1 fast charger

It was mainly due to all chargers in use, as it was the school holidays period when I went up. Had to wait...😁 

Also, if they say 150kW charger, it's likely you will not get 150kW peak power during charging. Especially if the other gun was occupied and the charger had to split the output. Additionally, if your EV is a based on a 400V architecture, you also won't hit the theoretical max of 150kW, if the current at the charger side is capped at 200A. In my case, I only get 80kW (400V x 200A = 80kW) even if I'm the only car at the charger. So, the charging time is longer. You will only hit 150kW if your EV is 800V architecture (Taycan, EV6, Ioniq 5 and probably a few others). 

Lastly, most EVs charging speed will automatically throttle down once 80% is reached. The last 20% takes a longer time, even if on DC fast charger. 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Lethalstrike

[inlinesix]

Charge up to 90%.
Otherwise Regen brake will be disabled especially Tesla

Edited August 21, 2023 by inlinesix

[Lethalstrike]

On 8/21/2023 at 8:51 PM, inlinesix said:

Charge up to 90%.
Otherwise Regen brake will be disabled especially Tesla

Yes, charging up to 90%-100% is totally not necessary for Voodooman's case. 

I reckon he should be able to manage very well with 1 stop to charge the Model Y at half-way mark to KL, top it up to 80% at 30 mins tops and can go already. No problems reaching KL with plenty of range to spare. 

 

[ER-3682]

On 8/21/2023 at 4:15 PM, Ingenius said:

What if reached the charging station in Malaysia but it is being taken up ? 

Imagine,middle of the Night,run out of Battery,Charging Station only 1 Person,really scare get Robbed.

[zipping]

A recent write-up on asiaone dated Aug 23

https://www.asiaone.com/lifestyle/can-you-take-electric-city-car-malaysian-road-trip-featuring-opel-mokka-e

Can you take an electric city car on a Malaysian road trip? (featuring Opel Mokka-e)

[Voodooman]

On 8/21/2023 at 9:37 PM, zipping said:

A recent write-up on asiaone dated Aug 23

https://www.asiaone.com/lifestyle/can-you-take-electric-city-car-malaysian-road-trip-featuring-opel-mokka-e

Can you take an electric city car on a Malaysian road trip? (featuring Opel Mokka-e)

Good article.

But I think Gentari at Ayer Hitam is owned by Petronas and not Petron.

"We stopped at Petron, which housed Gentari's mix of 50kW and 180kW DC chargers."

 

[D3badge]

On 8/21/2023 at 9:36 PM, ER-3682 said:

Imagine,middle of the Night,run out of Battery,Charging Station only 1 Person,really scare get Robbed.

 Idea for The robbers. They will use a few ICE cars wait in the middle of the night on NSHW and chase down an EV. The EV will be hunted like a prey in the animal kingdom 😂 at high speed chase EV battery deplete very fast 😅.

norm for ICE go 250km/h in NSHW for speeding, dun think EV can last the distance with above 200km/h speed 😅

Edited August 23, 2023 by D3badge

[ER-3682]

On 8/23/2023 at 8:26 PM, D3badge said:

 Idea for The robbers. They will use a few ICE cars wait in the middle of the night on NSHW and chase down an EV. The EV will be hunted like a prey in the animal kingdom 😂 at high speed chase EV battery deplete very fast 😅.

norm for ICE go 250km/h in NSHW for speeding, dun think EV can last the distance with above 200km/h speed 😅

Need to buy an EV that can lasts 500Km...no half way Charging needed.

[inlinesix]

On 8/23/2023 at 8:33 PM, ER-3682 said:

Need to buy an EV that can lasts 500Km...no half way Charging needed.

Taycan

EQS

 

[Shibadog]

https://paultan.org/2023/08/22/tesla-supercharger-pavilion-kl-now-online-priced-at-rm1-25-per-kwh-with-rm4-per-minute-idle-fee/

 

 

[Voodooman]

On 8/23/2023 at 10:47 PM, Shibadog said:

https://paultan.org/2023/08/22/tesla-supercharger-pavilion-kl-now-online-priced-at-rm1-25-per-kwh-with-rm4-per-minute-idle-fee/

 

 

Thanks. Hot off the press.  I checked the Tesla Website too. First of 12 planned locations in Malaysia to turn red. 

[D3badge]

On 8/23/2023 at 8:33 PM, ER-3682 said:

Need to buy an EV that can lasts 500Km...no half way Charging needed.

I believe like my Dyson vacuum cleaner, when on turbo mode the time usage for the battery from 35min normal speed to 6min on turbo mode 😂

500km full charge last you less than 100km 😅

[inlinesix]

On 8/24/2023 at 6:35 PM, D3badge said:

I believe like my Dyson vacuum cleaner, when on turbo mode the time usage for the battery from 35min normal speed to 6min on turbo mode 😂

500km full charge last you less than 100km 😅

EV cannot do longer hours at high speed.

Battery will heat up very fast.

[D3badge]

On 8/24/2023 at 6:38 PM, inlinesix said:

EV cannot do longer hours at high speed.

Battery will heat up very fast.

That why I said the Malaysian robbers use old Evo ICE car can chase down EV in NSHW 😂

[ER-3682]

On 8/24/2023 at 6:38 PM, inlinesix said:

EV cannot do longer hours at high speed.

Battery will heat up very fast.

Then how about those BMW i7 & Mercedes Benz EQS in Germany.?

[inlinesix]

On 8/24/2023 at 9:40 PM, ER-3682 said:

Then how about those BMW i7 & Mercedes Benz EQS in Germany.?

During Summer, it may not be a good idea.

[inlinesix]

@Voodooman