Supreme Court strikes down college affirmative action programs

[Playtime]

I never met anyone from those colleges b4, anyone planning on going higher studies may have higher chance now?

Background of court case:

Currently, Asians have the highest test scores, but are artificially limited from admission due to affirmative action favoring mainly blacks. Kinda American bumiputra policy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-strikes-affirmative-action-programs-harvard-unc-rcna66770

 

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Thursday struck down affirmative action programs at the University of North Carolina and Harvard in a major victory for conservative activists, ending the systematic consideration of race in the admissions process.

The court ruled that both programs violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution and are therefore unlawful. The vote was 6-3 in the UNC case and 6-2 in the Harvard case, in which liberal Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was recused.

[Jamesc]

This supreme court?

 

Last time they look like this!

[Kopites]

US of A, ensure our children achieved a certain level of armoury skill before sending off.  

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/nus-enters-top-10-in-global-university-ranking-for-the-first-time 😁

 

Edited June 30, 2023 by Kopites

[Jamesc]

On 6/30/2023 at 12:25 PM, Playtime said:

Currently, Asians have the highest test scores, but are artificially limited from admission due to affirmative action favoring mainly blacks. Kinda American bumiputra policy.

Like American Bumiputra policy?

There is one very big difference.

Every country affirmative action policy protects the minorities.

Except in Bolehland that affirmative action policy only protects the majority!

Since when the majority have to be protected?

Secretly many racist in US want to adopt the MY bumiputra policy

so only whites can go uni, can get jobs, can vote etc etc

[Jamesc]

I worry about the IT industry.

I use Andriod phone and Windows PC and all the new AI logic is written by mostly Indian and white man!

What if they inadvertently encode their own biasness into the AI?

How many Indian and white women work in IT writing AI logic?

How many black and Asians writing AI codes?

So few women means even less lesbians writing AI logic.

What if the AI discriminates against Asians and lesbians because it have been programmed that way?

  

So if less blacks and minorities get into universities

less chance they will be represented in shaping the AI

which we will all be using tomorrow. 

Edited June 30, 2023 by Jamesc

[Jamesc]

This is a Supremo court

that 

a Third Of The 6 Men On The Supreme Court have been accused of sexual misconduct by multiple women.

Like this also can be Supreme Court Justice!

[Volvobrick]

I think Harvard is going to be 50% Asian Americans/Asians after this.... 😅

[Lala81]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:02 PM, Volvobrick said:

I think Harvard is going to be 50% Asian Americans/Asians after this.... 😅

not really. Some of them still have very vague admission criteria. Some even move away from SAT scores. 

Legacy students acceptance is 30+% (your laopeh laobu is harvard alumni) vs at best 5% for the general applicant. 
For the ivy league/harvard etc, they even screen who your parents are before they accept. And also of course donations. Who can pay full course without scholarships.

For the famous schools, they have no lack of applicants also. 

 

Edited June 30, 2023 by Lala81

[Volvobrick]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:18 PM, Lala81 said:

not really. Some of them still have very vague admission criteria. Some even move away from SAT scores. 

Legacy students acceptance is 30+% (your laopeh laobu is harvard alumni) vs at best 5% for the general applicant. 
For the ivy league/harvard etc, they even screen who your parents are before they accept.

 

"In a breakdown of the incoming class released by the university last week, Harvard revealed that 29.9% of admitted applicants are Asian American. It's a 2.1% jump from last year's number.4 Apr 2023"

That's before today's decisions. Many qualified ones were kept out.

 

I think got biz opportunity to sell prata and xiaolongbao at its canteen....

Edited June 30, 2023 by Volvobrick

[Jamesc]

The problem is not how many black students

the problem is how many US colleges have black presidents?

Get more black presidents into US colleges and they will solve the black student problem.

https://www.jbhe.com/2023/04/new-ace-report-presents-data-on-college-presidents-who-are-black/#:~:text=Blacks were 14.1 percent of,relating to race or ethnicity.

The report found that in 2022, 77.2 percent of college and university presidents were White.

Blacks or African Americans were 13.6 percent of college or university presidents, approximately equal to the percentage of Blacks in the U.S. population.

Blacks were 14.1 percent of all women college or university presidents and Black were 13.3 percent of all male presidents.

[Jamesc]

I think my kids will have no problem getting into Harvard if they screen who their parents are!

Father is a big time entrepreneur in the used vehicle industry and one of the most famous physical the rapist in the Spa industry in SG.

The only problem is my kids always playing with their handphones and never study.

No chance of them getting all As!

[Lala81]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:20 PM, Volvobrick said:

"In a breakdown of the incoming class released by the university last week, Harvard revealed that 29.9% of admitted applicants are Asian American. It's a 2.1% jump from last year's number.4 Apr 2023"

That's before today's decisions. Many qualified ones were kept out.

 

I think got biz opportunity to sell prata and xiaolongbao at its canteen....

not surprising. they get the smartest indian nationals. And also lot of the cream from the north asian/south east asians.

[Ender]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:24 PM, Jamesc said:

I think my kids will have no problem getting into Harvard if they screen who their parents are!

Father is a big time entrepreneur in the used vehicle industry and one of the most famous physical the rapist in the Spa industry in SG.

The only problem is my kids always playing with their handphones and never study.

No chance of them getting all As!

Don't forget BFF of Ex PM of Malaysia.

[Voodooman]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:20 PM, Volvobrick said:

"In a breakdown of the incoming class released by the university last week, Harvard revealed that 29.9% of admitted applicants are Asian American. It's a 2.1% jump from last year's number.4 Apr 2023"

That's before today's decisions. Many qualified ones were kept out.

 

I think got biz opportunity to sell prata and xiaolongbao at its canteen....

At Harvard, an Asian candidate in the eighth highest academic decile had 5.1% chance of admittance, compared to 7.5% for white, 22.9% for Hispanic, and 44.5% for black applicants, per the brief.

On 6/30/2023 at 1:18 PM, Lala81 said:

not really. Some of them still have very vague admission criteria. Some even move away from SAT scores. 

Legacy students acceptance is 30+% (your laopeh laobu is harvard alumni) vs at best 5% for the general applicant. 
For the ivy league/harvard etc, they even screen who your parents are before they accept. And also of course donations. Who can pay full course without scholarships.

For the famous schools, they have no lack of applicants also. 

 

Isn't legacy admission a form of discrimination? 

[Jamesc]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:37 PM, Ender said:

Don't forget BFF of Ex PM of Malaysia.

Yes yes I have many famous friends.

And if the uni want a written testimonial, my BFF will write a very nice letter for me from jail.

[Playtime]

The SAT chart shows why it's the asians that are particularly unhappy, it's not about who gets in or how many.

It's about why someone less qualified keep getting accepted. Whether they later change to an easier subject or even actually graduate is another story. 

 

The video below it's long but good.

At about 52min..  the firework starts. 

At the end about 102min it's another black guy who defends the Asian dude.

 

[Lala81]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:39 PM, Voodooman said:

At Harvard, an Asian candidate in the eighth highest academic decile had 5.1% chance of admittance, compared to 7.5% for white, 22.9% for Hispanic, and 44.5% for black applicants, per the brief.

Isn't legacy admission a form of discrimination? 

So say u get top grades. U apply to say 20 colleges.

Maybe 1-2 ivy league uni reply to you, yes we have space. But they offer you no scholarship, tuition and misc fees are roughly around 40k usd per year. Not including living expenses.

And your state university replies back to you (those non california uni cos cali even state uni is competitive), i give u full scholarship.

That's about 200k of debt that some students will straightaway avoid. Ok 1 spot available.

I offer it to someone on the "waiting list", same conditions. They will bite off Harvard's hand to get it. 

 

Not saying this is a sinister process/conspiracy. But if u follow like those social media posts, lot of them will mention various degrees of such scenarios. Especially those from normal joe/poor backgrounds. To get a full tutition scholarship is like striking the lottery for them. 

[Playtime]

Saw this in another forum