Carbon82 Moderator June 21, 2023 Share June 21, 2023 The MPV look gigantic in size (5 mm shy of 5 m from end to end), and finally available in 2.4L Turbo, producing a healthy 275 horsepower and 430 NM. Toyota has unveiled the fourth-generation Alphard alongside the Vellfire. These follow the recently introduced posh Lexus LM, a mechanically related vehicle based on the same TNGA-K platform. The twin are the first Toyota models to have steps on both left and right sliding doors, with a step emerging about 220 millimeters above ground. The boxy minivans are 4995 mm long and share a massive wheelbase stretching at 3000 mm. Both are 1850 mm wide while height depends on the model and trim level, either 1935 mm or 1945 mm. The Alphard and Vellfire can seat up to six people in a 2+2+2 layout with second-row captain's chairs. There's now an extra 5 mm between the first two rows and an additional 10 mm between the second and third rows. Both can be had with front- or all-wheel drive as well as a hybrid powertrain, with a plug-in hybrid setup to be added later. The most powerful of the bunch is a turbocharged 2.4-liter, four-cylinder engine available in the Vellfire. "Tuned to deliver a sporty sound," it makes 275 hp (205 kilowatts) and 430 Newton-meters of torque. Customers can also pick a hybrid based on a 2.5-liter gasoline engine with a combined output of 250 hp (184 kW). Lesser Alphard models have a non-electrified, naturally aspirated 2.5-liter, four-cylinder unit with 180 hp (134 kW) and 235 NM. Depending on the engine, the minivans come with a CVT, an e-CVT, or an eight-speed automatic. ↡ Advertisement 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_slayer 4th Gear June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 The front like Hyundai Tuscon.... 😄 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 All the MPV designers have the same problem. How to make a box stylish. Add creases especially to the waist line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 Not much diff since 2 gen ago lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellandross Supersonic June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 (edited) To me this kind of car is to sit as passenger and enjoy like a boss. I can't imagine any joy driving such a clunky car (although my son keep asking why I never buy one) "Tuned to deliver a sporty sound" Sporty MPV sounds like an oxymoron. 😂😂😂 Edited June 22, 2023 by Jellandross 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 Good for queue cutting 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 On 6/22/2023 at 5:33 PM, Jellandross said: To me this kind of car is to sit as passenger and enjoy like a boss. I can't imagine any joy driving such a clunky car (although my son keep asking why I never buy one) "Tuned to deliver a sporty sound" Sporty MPV sounds like an oxymoron. 😂😂😂 This should be those fake sporty exhaust sound piped thru the speakers 😁 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidklt 6th Gear June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 (edited) On 6/22/2023 at 5:33 PM, Jellandross said: To me this kind of car is to sit as passenger and enjoy like a boss. I can't imagine any joy driving such a clunky car (although my son keep asking why I never buy one) "Tuned to deliver a sporty sound" Sporty MPV sounds like an oxymoron. 😂😂😂 Jeremy Clarkson once said that the moment someone buys an MPV, he is declaring the end of his love for any form of motorsports. Edited June 22, 2023 by Davidklt 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 Poor Man Rolls Royce. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator June 22, 2023 Author Share June 22, 2023 The new Alphard look quite similar to the 3rd gen, but vastly different inside out from the new Lexus LM, which it share the platform and chassis with. So potential owner will not be able to do a simple badge engineering to "upgrade" their ride to the L brand. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGMCF328 Turbocharged June 23, 2023 Share June 23, 2023 On 6/22/2023 at 8:45 AM, Fat_slayer said: The front like Hyundai Tuscon.... 😄 The grill design look more like from the Starex, which I took for my Malaysia trip. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear June 23, 2023 Share June 23, 2023 (edited) The worse vehicle blocking your view in front when it is driving on lane 1 one expressway. Main point: The new model of Veilfire and Alphard don't have obvious differences. Current model Veilfire has a double-deck headlights and a sleeker front nose. Edited June 23, 2023 by Heartbreakid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator June 23, 2023 Author Share June 23, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 7:05 PM, Heartbreakid said: The worse vehicle blocking your view in front when it is driving on lane 1 one expressway. Main point: The new model of Veilfire and Alphard don't have obvious differences. Current model Veilfire has a double-deck headlights and a sleeker front nose. Like it or not, Alphard and Vellfire are the new status symbols of the rich especially when chauffer driven (you likely to find a few along a stretch of landed house / CGB), some even have more than 1 in their compound), and it will be more common (to be driving behind one on every other day) in time to come. The new Vellfire still have split headlights layout, just that it is less obvious, whereas the new Alphard's spilt lights are well concealed by the gigantic grill spanning across it front facade. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junning 3rd Gear June 23, 2023 Share June 23, 2023 Hi all, Some video links 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear June 23, 2023 Share June 23, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 8:35 PM, Carbon82 said: Like it or not, Alphard and Vellfire are the new status symbols of the rich especially when chauffer driven (you likely to find a few along a stretch of landed house / CGB), some even have more than 1 in their compound), and it will be more common (to be driving behind one on every other day) in time to come. The new Vellfire still have split headlights layout, just that it is less obvious, whereas the new Alphard's spilt lights are well concealed by the gigantic grill spanning across it front facade. Ya, it is less obvious. The main headlights look identical for both model now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junning 3rd Gear June 24, 2023 Share June 24, 2023 Hi all, Old vs New side by side comparison video 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravinged 5th Gear August 9, 2023 Share August 9, 2023 Just received today, but no idea which dealer. Alphard 2.5 Z Petrol $272988 No Coe Alphard 2.5 Z Hybrid $272988 No Coe Alphard 2.5 Hybrid Executive Lounge $401988 No Coe Vellfire 2.4 Turbo Premium $285988 No Coe Vellfire 2.5 Z Hybrid Premium $285988 No Coe Vellfire 2.5 Hybrid Executive Lounge $438988 No Coe Estimated delivery in Nov 2023. ↡ Advertisement 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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