What Happened To Quality German Cars?

[Watwheels]

On 5/4/2023 at 7:02 AM, ER-3682 said:

Gone are the 90's solid German Cars like the Mercedes Benz W124.

DW has a video on that. I think last of the well built merc.

[Watwheels]

Unproven mechanical design or want to stand out from the Japanese variable valve timing?

 

[Sdf4786k]

On 5/3/2023 at 6:15 PM, RadX said:

Lexus lo

Am impressed. Citron n Peugeot fare better then Audi n VW.

and lately some rumours of VAG mention that the ecu security is so tight that now u have to bring to agent dealer just to change the brake pad.

If that’s true, there’s going to be quite a number of 2022 cars going lelong soon 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Sdf4786k

[ER-3682]

On 5/4/2023 at 9:13 AM, Sdf4786k said:

Am impressed. Citron n Peugeot fare better then Audi n VW.

and lately some rumours of VAG mention that the ecu security is so tight that now u have to bring to agent dealer just to change the brake pad.

If that’s true, there’s going to be quite a number of 2022 cars going lelong soon 

Good Luck to VW..Their Sales already so poor..do this Monkey Business..more People avoid VW.

[fesa7044]

On 5/4/2023 at 7:35 AM, RadX said:

When Shan talks abt drug abuse, he shd come to MCF....some here are smoking stuff that are totally illegal by the nature of their posts

Stay with Topics ,Dun Bring Weep Stuff in  or u more into dat kind of things.

Spend the monies on German cars rather than those Heady stuff.

[fesa7044]

On 5/4/2023 at 8:45 AM, Watwheels said:

You are too serious. I look at the list with a pinch of salt.

But some things are true. German cars in the past really can run forever if properly taken care.

Now a lot of unproven tech and mechanical designs are in their cars. And when parts fail and they do fail early it is at the expense of the car owner. Car nuts are now going back to old cars like classic Porsche and merc. They are doing restomod on these cars because they are actually better build with less problems than modern cars. You dont need the digital stuff in the car and just enjoy the drive. 

Funny thing is car buyers are attracted by many and large digital screens in the car. As if their iphone ipad are not enough, need more screens in their faces. Nobody look at what's underneath the hood.

Whats mentioned here I have Basically covered in my Earlier post.

Classic?

Yes,used to owns a 124 but not as mentioned here ,Reliabliyy ,Built to Last ,Blah blah.

No no not dat sort.

I Juzz wans sumthing dat I can  Nvr be able to afford in ‘89.

Mid 200k plus is seriously huge money .than.

Everytime I drive those ,not realli dat often.

I can imagine myself seeing Black/White images on the windscreen.

 Go Classic where yr Passion takes u ,not bcos ,it’s more Mechanical ,Less issue.

If y dun put some time on yr Ride ,issues will arises.

Dats a Fact.

 

 

[inlinesix]

On 5/4/2023 at 9:13 AM, Watwheels said:

Unproven mechanical design or want to stand out from the Japanese variable valve timing?

 

Toyota has similar system call Valvematic

[Steptronic]

Please do not buy Porsche, quality very bad.

I think I should use this ranking selfishly - too many Porsches recently, cannot get a nearer service date!

[Sdf4786k]

On 5/4/2023 at 9:31 AM, ER-3682 said:

Good Luck to VW..Their Sales already so poor..do this Monkey Business..more People avoid VW.

but would you buy the alternative.. ?

 

The basic reason why VAG cars are popular and easy to service is none other then the fact that they sponsor cars to ITE to have the next generation of student knows enough of the tech.

And when the mass adoption of students knows or are more familiar with Audi and VW, the workshop boss has less barrier to hire and getting the newbies to repair the cars.

Parts for citroen and peugeot parts are still 3 to 6 months waiting time. But the cars looks good both inside and out.

 

I suspect the alternatives are still destine for the brave and the adventurous 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Sdf4786k

[Thaiyotakamli]

On 5/3/2023 at 2:33 PM, Fitmugen said:

Don’t blame them. People don’t buy the German brands for reliability. They buy it so that can put key fob on the table

Yes key fob on table

 

car on workshop

[Thaiyotakamli]

On 5/4/2023 at 11:12 AM, Sdf4786k said:

but would you buy the alternative.. ?

 

The basic reason why VAG cars are popular and easy to service is none other then the fact that they sponsor cars to ITE to have the next generation of student knows enough of the tech.

And when the mass adoption of students knows or are more familiar with Audi and VW, the workshop boss has less barrier to hire and getting the newbies to repair the cars.

Parts for citroen and peugeot parts are still 3 to 6 months waiting time. But the cars looks good both inside and out.

 

I suspect the alternatives are still destine for the brave and the adventurous 

I own both

 

prev car vag no issue for 3.5yrs

now pug going hit first year touch wood no issue yet lol

[SGMCF328]

On 5/3/2023 at 9:16 PM, Lethalstrike said:

Yah lor. Car in workshop never mind, key fob die die must be on table 😁

Depend on the type of key fob. If using this one for example, later the screen shows "Car not found" how? Even more xia suay hahahaha

 

On 5/4/2023 at 7:00 AM, ER-3682 said:

I think alot of High End German Cars used Handphone to Lock & Unlock Cars,time to change to Vertu Platinum Phone.

Don't need phone, some are already looking like a phone, so chunky with a big display.

[inlinesix]

On 5/4/2023 at 11:08 AM, Steptronic said:

Please do not buy Porsche, quality very bad.

I think I should use this ranking selfishly - too many Porsches recently, cannot get a nearer service date!

Too many Cayenne & Macan

😂

[Sdf4786k]

On 5/4/2023 at 11:18 AM, Thaiyotakamli said:

I own both

 

prev car vag no issue for 3.5yrs

now pug going hit first year touch wood no issue yet lol

Nice which pug u have .. 508GT or the 5008? I quite like the DS7 

[Thaiyotakamli]

On 5/4/2023 at 12:08 PM, Sdf4786k said:

Nice which pug u have .. 508GT or the 5008? I quite like the DS7 

5008 

 

need ferry whole kampong

 

508GT lagi nice but abit small to me 

DS too ex just like lexus version of citroen

[Watwheels]

On 5/4/2023 at 10:56 AM, inlinesix said:

Toyota has similar system call Valvematic

Yes. It is on the air intake cam shaft end but not so complex and prone to failure. And it doesnt use needle bearings. 

[inlinesix]

On 5/4/2023 at 2:19 PM, Watwheels said:

Yes. It is on the air intake cam shaft end but not so complex and prone to failure. And it doesnt use needle bearings. 

Both Valvetronic and Valvematic removed the requirement for a camshaft.

Both also use motor for valve lift.

[ER-3682]

On 5/4/2023 at 10:56 AM, inlinesix said:

Toyota has similar system call Valvematic

But longer Life & less Problem.