Poor paint job by One Garage & Colour

[badlammy]

Too many shitty WS out there who can't provide a good spray job.

I hope TS gets his rectified and not like mine which

- took 3 weeks for a full respray (change colour), where initially promised only 1 week max. Gives subsequent  deadlines and keep missing them.

- no interim update of status in between and not responsive to messages.

- had to spend another 2 days to return to WS to rectify defects and still not satisfactorily done in the end. After the paintjob cured, the detailer which I went to do coating actually refused to proceed because of the defects but relented eventually after looking at result after I reutrned to WS to rectify.

Can definitely understand the disappointment for such loss time and loss of use. 

 

[shrjun]

Quite a few blind people in this thread .I think probably all guys since they can't see the shades of colour 🙂 

Poor TS . 

[Throttle2]

On 2/28/2023 at 12:29 AM, bemywife said:

My bonnet paint is about 6 months old, and I park mostly under shelter, so any fading should not be so noticeable yet. Perhaps different brands of paint and clear coat also have an impact, not sure.

agree that spraying whole car is a better way to achieve more consistency, although also not 100%.

I think the key here is that some efforts must be made to colour match. Each paint code does allow for varying the tint.

your bonnet also recently resprayed?  By the same shop?

its really very dificult to visually color match.  It may work this time for you but not next time for another.

for eg. If the visual color match end up not great, then the customer will say” why the f**k didnt you just follow color code to a T” 

anyway, for your instance , it would probably be good to explicitly tell the WS to try to do a true color match so that both expectations are managed well.   
 

i didnt read the rest of your thread but hope you got the issue settled to your preference.  
 

enjoy your ride

[Tianmo]

 

[Tianmo]

My late dad was an auto refinish professional all his life, and I worked in the color coating industry for a short while. 

Beside the color code, the ability to match the color is why some tao chui are different from the rest. 

It is science,  and also an art which require talent.  

Easy to say, but if ownself kena I think thinking will be different.  But as usual, come MCF complain will only lead to one outcome, tio kan.

 

Anyway, I had to respray parts of  my astra after 3 years (quite a big part), and the AD WS did a great job for me, even under the sun also cannot see the different. 

In case you guys are not aware, you can never get the same color from different batches of the same product line,  very close at best, but never the same. 

 

Edited February 28, 2023 by Tianmo

[DOBIEMKZ]

On 2/28/2023 at 11:00 AM, Tianmo said:

My late dad was an auto refinish professional all his life, and I worked in the color coating industry for a short while. 

Beside the color code, the ability to match the color is why some tao chui are different from the rest. 

It is science,  and also an art which require talent.  

Easy to say, but if ownself kena I think thinking will be different.  But as usual, come MCF complain will only lead to one outcome, tio kan.

 

Anyway, I had to respray parts of  my astra after 3 years (quite a big part), and the AD WS did a great job for me, even under the sun also cannot see the different. 

In case you guys are not aware, you can never get the same color from different batches of the same product line,  very close at best, but never the same. 

 

The stripping or sanding down of the old paint also important to ensure the new coat of paint adhere consistently.

[Ct3833]

On 2/28/2023 at 12:29 AM, bemywife said:

My bonnet paint is about 6 months old, and I park mostly under shelter, so any fading should not be so noticeable yet. Perhaps different brands of paint and clear coat also have an impact, not sure.

agree that spraying whole car is a better way to achieve more consistency, although also not 100%.

I think the key here is that some efforts must be made to colour match. Each paint code does allow for varying the tint.

If your bonnet pain matches the body pain, then the bumper pain should not deviate too much from it.

[PSP415]

On 2/28/2023 at 12:33 PM, Ct3833 said:

If your bonnet pain matches the body pain, then the bumper pain should not deviate too much from it.

Very pain, I mean paintful 😅

[Davidklt]

Share with you all one incident.

I once had a situation like this as well. Had to respray a door due to some scratches.

The colour was a bit off. A bit like the TS case. I didnt ask for a respray as I need to use the car and cant have any more down time. Over time, I find the difference less and less noticeable. And obviously at night, could not tell the difference at all.

When it comes to selling the car, the buyer did not notice the difference as well while check for dents and scratches. If fact, I had three offers for the car. No one told me the paint work was off.  

[Gnahp]

On 2/28/2023 at 1:21 PM, Davidklt said:

Share with you all one incident.

I once had a situation like this as well. Had to respray a door due to some scratches.

The colour was a bit off. A bit like the TS case. I didnt ask for a respray as I need to use the car and cant have any more down time. Over time, I find the difference less and less noticeable. And obviously at night, could not tell the difference at all.

When it comes to selling the car, the buyer did not notice the difference as well while check for dents and scratches. If fact, I had three offers for the car. No one told me the paint work was off.  

you arranged the car viewing at night? 😁

[Voodooman]

On 2/28/2023 at 7:21 AM, badlammy said:

Too many shitty WS out there who can't provide a good spray job.

I hope TS gets his rectified and not like mine which

- took 3 weeks for a full respray (change colour), where initially promised only 1 week max. Gives subsequent  deadlines and keep missing them.

- no interim update of status in between and not responsive to messages.

- had to spend another 2 days to return to WS to rectify defects and still not satisfactorily done in the end. After the paintjob cured, the detailer which I went to do coating actually refused to proceed because of the defects but relented eventually after looking at result after I reutrned to WS to rectify.

Can definitely understand the disappointment for such loss time and loss of use. 

 

After reading your post, I am having second thought spray painting my car. 

Maybe just do a wrap?

[bemywife]

hey, guys and gals, i attached another photo here. it's definitely not the same shade between bumper and fender. as i mentioned earlier, the diff is more obvious under indoor lighting. it's slightly better under natural lighting.

if the workshop has some sense of pride, it should redo it even without my request, and not let the car leave the workshop until it is properly done.

while i understand that painting a bumper separately will never get the same shade, the tolerance limit should be narrower than what it is now.

i have consulted 2 other workshops, and they aren't confident of achieving a much closer match if just repaint bumper alone. to repaint bonnet is a bigger job, which i hope to avoid if i can.

like what tianmo said, it's an art as well as a science. and such talent is very hard to come by in our local market.

[Gnahp]

On 2/28/2023 at 1:37 PM, bemywife said:

 

if the workshop has some sense of pride, it should redo it even without my request, and not let the car leave the workshop until it is properly done.

 

amongst the replies in this thread, some can see the difference some cannot

I believe the painter is awared of the difference in tone but trying their luck hoping that you belongs to the group that "cannot see"

they are the professional, no way they didn't spot it

[bemywife]

On 2/28/2023 at 1:21 PM, Davidklt said:

Share with you all one incident.

I once had a situation like this as well. Had to respray a door due to some scratches.

The colour was a bit off. A bit like the TS case. I didnt ask for a respray as I need to use the car and cant have any more down time. Over time, I find the difference less and less noticeable. And obviously at night, could not tell the difference at all.

When it comes to selling the car, the buyer did not notice the difference as well while check for dents and scratches. If fact, I had three offers for the car. No one told me the paint work was off.  

thanks for sharing.

over time, the mind may be conditioned to accept it more, or the weathering effect may lead to more colour blending of the panels.

actually, most people can't tell the difference. or some may, but don't mind about it.

some of my friends are just focused on the mechanicals and the interior.

but for me, i would still choose to get it rectified.

[Mancypher]

On 2/28/2023 at 1:55 PM, bemywife said:

thanks for sharing.

over time, the mind may be conditioned to accept it more, or the weathering effect may lead to more colour blending of the panels.

actually, most people can't tell the difference. or some may, but don't mind about it.

some of my friends are just focused on the mechanicals and the interior.

but for me, i would still choose to get it rectified.

Like me. I dont really care if my car color is ugly, but have a certain very low expectation and acceptance level.

I only cannot stand if car break down/interior & exterior dirty. The downtime for for repairs is sometimes a killer.

[bemywife]

On 2/28/2023 at 1:47 PM, Gnahp said:

amongst the replies in this thread, some can see the difference some cannot

I believe the painter is awared of the difference in tone but trying their luck hoping that you belongs to the group that "cannot see"

they are the professional, no way they didn't spot it

I tend to perceive it a bit differently.

I think they know I can see the difference, but maybe hoping that it wouldn't bother me too much.

[badlammy]

On 2/28/2023 at 1:30 PM, Voodooman said:

After reading your post, I am having second thought spray painting my car. 

Maybe just do a wrap?

It's really all about expectations vis-a-vis the price you paid. I paid close to $4k and spent 3 weeks downtime, hence I believe I should expect better outcome.

To add, the WS also did not bother to polish away the swirl marks left after compounding work on the fresh clear coat. Not sure if this is common practice.

[bemywife]

On 2/28/2023 at 10:48 AM, Throttle2 said:

your bonnet also recently resprayed?  By the same shop?

its really very dificult to visually color match.  It may work this time for you but not next time for another.

for eg. If the visual color match end up not great, then the customer will say” why the f**k didnt you just follow color code to a T” 

anyway, for your instance , it would probably be good to explicitly tell the WS to try to do a true color match so that both expectations are managed well.   
 

i didnt read the rest of your thread but hope you got the issue settled to your preference.  
 

enjoy your ride

By different workshop which used a different brand of paint called Mipa.

perfectly understand that visual match is tricky as it is based on “agarism”.

on the other hand, just basing on the vin colour code is bound to have discrepancy with adjacent panels.

but the overarching principle of the paint shop should be to always achieve the closest match to the extent that the repaint is not obvious to most people. Otherwise, it’s as if shouting out loud to others that “look, I have just been repaired!”.

what I am saying is that colour matching is to be expected by default. Only exception is when the car is very new (less than a year) and never repainted before, then following standard code alone may less likely result in a problem.

poor colour matching can only mean that the painter is inexperienced and incompetent.

by the way, I am now also checking with performance motors bodyshop whether they are confident of achieving a close colour match.