Diabetes ravages emerging nations in Asia, Africa

[Volvobrick]

Hmm..  Simple maths says $8700 to study each subject, and 7M a year. 

 

Sounds very inefficient.  Or government trying to feed more researchers.

 

 

[Blueray]

War on diabetes: Sugar tax a sweet idea

However, experience from Europe shows that ideally, such revenues would go to subsidising healthy food

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/war-on-diabetes-sugar-tax-a-sweet-idea

[Kangadrool]

I disagree on sugar tax. It should come from education and by governmental regulation on food companies instead. The downside of sugar tax is, companies will use sugar substitute like artificial sugars which are more harmful than real sugar.

 

If you have seen how some cough syrups are made.... nearly everything is sugar with small amount of codeine and some other chemicals. Just need to pour/spill some out and you will see sugar crystalization forming in hours time.

 

Artificial sugars should be totally banned instead.

Edited May 5, 2016 by Kangadrool

[BanCoe]

I disagree on sugar tax. It should come from education and by governmental regulation on food companies instead. The downside of sugar tax is, companies will use sugar substitute like artificial sugars which are more harmful than real sugar.

 

If you have seen how some cough syrups are made.... nearly everything is sugar with small amount of codeine and some other chemicals. Just need to pour/spill some out and you will see sugar crystalization forming in hours time.

 

Artificial sugars should be totally banned instead.

in fact i think the americans also have their own agenda of calling their so called corn syrup as sugar too

they have big corporations behind the govt. pushing for it

though i really don't know if there is really any difference between sugar cane sugar and corn sugar (syrup)

[Kb27]

Sugar tax is a sweet idea for diabetes.

Salt tax is a salty idea for HPB.

All tax is sweet.

Keep taxing. Hell, nothing to do with health.

It's just money, money, money.

 

And don't forget carbo tax, tax all rice, cereals, potato.

Carbo is bad for you.

Edited May 5, 2016 by Kb27

[Lala81]

in fact i think the americans also have their own agenda of calling their so called corn syrup as sugar too

they have big corporations behind the govt. pushing for it

though i really don't know if there is really any difference between sugar cane sugar and corn sugar (syrup)

 

Corn syrup is mainly fructose. Fructose is the sweetest of all the simple carbohydrates. Fructose is also the the main sugar in fruits.

 

So it's actually "sweeter" as compared to the table sugar we are used to which is mostly sucrose.

 

As of now, there is no conclusion about whether it's worse than taking normal table sugar. I think my mum gets a bit unwell when she takes it though. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

 

 

 

There are speculations that excessive fructose consumption is a cause of insulin resistance, obesity,^[9] elevated LDL cholesterol and triglycerides, leading to metabolic syndrome,^[10][11][12] type 2 diabetes,^[13] and cardiovascular disease^[14] However, the UK's Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition in 2015 disputed the claims, demonstrating that "there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate that fructose intake... leads to adverse health outcomes independent of any effects related to its presence as a component of total and free sugars."^[15]

I disagree on sugar tax. It should come from education and by governmental regulation on food companies instead. The downside of sugar tax is, companies will use sugar substitute like artificial sugars which are more harmful than real sugar.

 

If you have seen how some cough syrups are made.... nearly everything is sugar with small amount of codeine and some other chemicals. Just need to pour/spill some out and you will see sugar crystalization forming in hours time.

 

Artificial sugars should be totally banned instead.

 

There is no conclusive evidence that artificial sugars are bad for health.

 

but of course consume with moderation. 

An interesting recent study conclusion is that if u consume artificial sugars very often to substitute for sugar in your diet, your body actually believes it's taking real sugar and the metabolic response is similar. 

 

But if u are taking the Coke light to prevent the calories from ingesting a Real Coca Cola once in a while, i would say go ahead.

Edited May 5, 2016 by Lala81

[BanCoe]

Them americans will always come up with something new; I remember like 20-25 years back Saccrarin was the rage or in thing; then came Aspartame  and then last few years Splenda....... so confusing...... again as I say they always have Agenda .... they will find some bottler endorsing them or some big corporate lobbyists to market it (politically) ..... and off it goes. Then 40-50 years later someone will find something to attack it saying something something will affect your heath and again a new kid will come to the block trending....

 

I just still take good old fashion sugar always.

 

   

Corn syrup is mainly fructose. Fructose is the sweetest of all the simple carbohydrates. Fructose is also the the main sugar in fruits.

 

So it's actually "sweeter" as compared to the table sugar we are used to which is mostly sucrose.

 

As of now, there is no conclusion about whether it's worse than taking normal table sugar. I think my mum gets a bit unwell when she takes it though. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

 

 

There is no conclusive evidence that artificial sugars are bad for health.

 

but of course consume with moderation. 
An interesting recent study conclusion is that if u consume artificial sugars very often to substitute for sugar in your diet, your body actually believes it's taking real sugar and the metabolic response is similar. 

 

But if u are taking the Coke light to prevent the calories from ingesting a Real Coca Cola once in a while, i would say go ahead.

 

[Mercury1]

Thats the conclusive evidence right there 

Corn syrup is mainly fructose. Fructose is the sweetest of all the simple carbohydrates. Fructose is also the the main sugar in fruits.

 

So it's actually "sweeter" as compared to the table sugar we are used to which is mostly sucrose.

 

As of now, there is no conclusion about whether it's worse than taking normal table sugar. I think my mum gets a bit unwell when she takes it though. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

 

 

There is no conclusive evidence that artificial sugars are bad for health.

 

but of course consume with moderation. 
An interesting recent study conclusion is that if u consume artificial sugars very often to substitute for sugar in your diet, your body actually believes it's taking real sugar and the metabolic response is similar. 

 

But if u are taking the Coke light to prevent the calories from ingesting a Real Coca Cola once in a while, i would say go ahead.

 

[Lala81]

Them americans will always come up with something new; I remember like 20-25 years back Saccrarin was the rage or in thing; then came Aspartame  and then last few years Splenda....... so confusing...... again as I say they always have Agenda .... they will find some bottler endorsing them or some big corporate lobbyists to market it (politically) ..... and off it goes. Then 40-50 years later someone will find something to attack it saying something something will affect your heath and again a new kid will come to the block trending....

 

I just still take good old fashion sugar always.

 

actually the reason why fructose is so widely used is because demand overtook supply and raw sugar prices went up in USA in the 1950s to 1960s.

And at that point of time, the farming lobby groups pushed for corn syrup as a healthy alternative to raw sugar. And since it was cheaper, it became widely used after that time.

So you aren't wrong.

[Kusje]

Corn syrup is mainly fructose. Fructose is the sweetest of all the simple carbohydrates. Fructose is also the the main sugar in fruits.

 

So it's actually "sweeter" as compared to the table sugar we are used to which is mostly sucrose.

 

As of now, there is no conclusion about whether it's worse than taking normal table sugar. I think my mum gets a bit unwell when she takes it though. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

 

 

You mom feels unwell after eating fruits as well too?

[Lala81]

Thats the conclusive evidence right there 

 

One person only, inconclusive lol.

 

It's only something i suspect. Cos she doesn't like to eat some sweet stuff outside like desserts which make her feel unwell. She doesn't like some drinks as well. But she's fine at home when she uses normal sugar.

I thought she was diabetic, but she isn't. So my conclusion is she's probably sensitive to corn fructose syrup.

You mom feels unwell after eating fruits as well too?

 

Fructose in fruits is diluted by the water and also fibre also retards fructose absorption.

My mum doesn't like to take sweet stuff actually so it's hard to say. but she always says anything too sweet makes her sick.

Which doesn't make sense since she's not diabetic.

[BanCoe]

actually the reason why fructose is so widely used is because demand overtook supply and raw sugar prices went up in USA in the 1950s to 1960s.

And at that point of time, the farming lobby groups pushed for corn syrup as a healthy alternative to raw sugar. And since it was cheaper, it became widely used after that time.

So you aren't wrong.

same thing with oil; Who would have thought that you can mine or prospect oil from sand or rocks by a process and to a certain extent affect oil prices down ; they really can rule the world and we the suckers are always listening 

 

They are really good in spinning any conspiracy theories......

 

Even Palm Oil (becos they are Anti Malaysian - lets be frank about it)  .... they convince the world to take corn oil with their marketing; Even Proton Saga cannot make it but QQ and some East Bloc countries cars can still can make it like-  Yugo and Lada

 

Any country not so friendly with them - them Yankees can make life really hard.       

[Lala81]

haha, a very funny thing is that if she feels sick she eats those fruit pastilles to make her feel better (the rowntree ones)

 

That's why i was like ... no it can't be the sugar making you sick lol.

[Blueray]

Them americans will always come up with something new; I remember like 20-25 years back Saccrarin was the rage or in thing; then came Aspartame  and then last few years Splenda....... so confusing...... again as I say they always have Agenda .... they will find some bottler endorsing them or some big corporate lobbyists to market it (politically) ..... and off it goes. Then 40-50 years later someone will find something to attack it saying something something will affect your heath and again a new kid will come to the block trending....

 

I just still take good old fashion sugar always.

 

yes ... I stick to old fashion sugar too ... 

[BanCoe]

I think biggest buyers of sugar substitutes are women .. Really lah !.... My wifey and even sister will always use equal /Splenda .... I tell her I rather take tea neat ( without sugar) and eat ice cream with real sugar at night some more ... N no Diet Coke for me ... Just the real thing .... Then go wash car after that ... I feel justice done,.,. Provided you don't have diabetes

Edited May 5, 2016 by BanCoe

[Kangadrool]

I will have severe heart palpitation, shortness of breath and fainting spells whenever I take foods containing aspartame.

 

So, no breath freshener, chewing gums,.... for me. It took me quite some time to realise this.

 

 

Corn syrup is mainly fructose. Fructose is the sweetest of all the simple carbohydrates. Fructose is also the the main sugar in fruits.

 

So it's actually "sweeter" as compared to the table sugar we are used to which is mostly sucrose.

 

As of now, there is no conclusion about whether it's worse than taking normal table sugar. I think my mum gets a bit unwell when she takes it though. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

 

 

There is no conclusive evidence that artificial sugars are bad for health.

 

but of course consume with moderation. 
An interesting recent study conclusion is that if u consume artificial sugars very often to substitute for sugar in your diet, your body actually believes it's taking real sugar and the metabolic response is similar. 

 

But if u are taking the Coke light to prevent the calories from ingesting a Real Coca Cola once in a while, i would say go ahead.

 

[Kerwen]

just sharing some youtube i watched last time ... there's total 7 ep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0zD1gj0pXk

[Mercury1]

Maybe its down too how our body deals with it

 

Metabolic Differences

While the sweeteners themselves are not very different, the individual sugars they contain behave differently in your body Glucose raises blood sugar, stimulates the release of insulin and is metabolized in cells throughout your body. Fructose doesn’t directly boost blood sugar because it’s only metabolized in your liver, where it’s converted into fat. As a result, it can boost your blood lipid levels -- consuming more than 100 grams of fructose daily may increase the levels of triglyceride in your bloodstream, according to an article in the April 2011 issue of “Circulation.” Since cane sugar and high-fructose corn syrup have about the same proportion of glucose and fructose, the American Heart Association does not acknowledge one as more damaging to your health than the other.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/173669-cane-sugar-vs-high-fructose-corn-syrup/

One person only, inconclusive lol.

 

It's only something i suspect. Cos she doesn't like to eat some sweet stuff outside like desserts which make her feel unwell. She doesn't like some drinks as well. But she's fine at home when she uses normal sugar.

I thought she was diabetic, but she isn't. So my conclusion is she's probably sensitive to corn fructose syrup.

 

Fructose in fruits is diluted by the water and also fibre also retards fructose absorption.

My mum doesn't like to take sweet stuff actually so it's hard to say. but she always says anything too sweet makes her sick.

Which doesn't make sense since she's not diabetic.