Sosaria Twincharged December 17, 2022 Share December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Shibadog said: the cctv caught him in the act. Is that a HDB CCTV? thankfully the cctv owner checked the vids. I was thinking too, who would check the CCTV. But according to the first post, he was caught in the act of trying to throw a second cat. Probably revealed the earlier incident after questioning then someone checked the CCTV recording to confirm. That was the first victim (cat) captured in the video. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyrider 3rd Gear December 17, 2022 Share December 17, 2022 Could the boy have googled and learnt that many cats have survived falls from great heights and decided to carry out the deed to see for himself? His intention might not be wanting to kill the cat but to confirm if what he had read online is true? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged December 17, 2022 Share December 17, 2022 14 hours ago, Fcw75 said: Boy, 10, says he threw Boon Lay cat from 22nd floor as he 'did not receive love & care from his family' https://mothership.sg/2022/12/boy-boon-lay-memorial-thrown-cat/?fbclid=IwAR2KPVRG2aR3_MG1p9ubYVMPKyXJeTGjw94VwmRZd1Joc8jlTvvbXFTmRkw&mibextid=Zxz2cZ The Zaobao reporter located the boy's unit near the scene of the crime. His father answered the door. He said the authorities are investigating the matter and declined to comment. The reporter should have told the father to use a condom. While the boy clearly has issues ... im realllyyyyy not comfortable with the media going after what is still a minor in this way. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion Turbocharged December 17, 2022 Share December 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Fcw75 said: Precisely. No love and care means one can throw cats over the ledge? Simi logic? Psychopath logic? warped BS logic 🤬 same as no money go and rob or no love go and rape 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSP415 Supersonic December 18, 2022 Share December 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Happyrider said: Could the boy have googled and learnt that many cats have survived falls from great heights and decided to carry out the deed to see for himself? His intention might not be wanting to kill the cat but to confirm if what he had read online is true? After 8-9 cats died the same way? Till 100 dead cats then convinced cats do, will and can die from heights? Anyways, he said deed done cos no love and care. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic December 18, 2022 Share December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Scion said: warped BS logic 🤬 same as no money go and rob or no love go and rape That’s probably what he will do when he grow up, if he was not caught. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoon Turbocharged December 18, 2022 Share December 18, 2022 Not sure if this is tinfoil stuff 'facts' but... https://ncovaa.org/facts/ SERIAL KILLERS WHO COMMITTED ANIMAL CRUELTY CRIMES PRIOR TO THEIR CAREERS AS SERIAL KILLERS. o Ted Bundy, o Richard Chase, o Carroll Edward Cole (linked with 35 murders and executed for 5), o Jeffrey Dahmer (who killed and cannibalized his victims), o Albert DeSalvo (the Boston Strangler who killed 13 women), o Dennis Rader, o Gary Ridgeway All engaged in acts of animal cruelty prior to their careers as serial killers. SCHOOL SHOOTERS SHARED A COMMON FEATURE . . . PRIOR TO KILLING THEIR CLASSMATES AND TEACHERS, ALL OF THE BOYS INVOLVED IN THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS HAD PERFORMED ACTS OF ANIMAL CRUELTY SUCH AS SHOOTING DOGS, SETTING CATS ON FIRE, BLOWING UP COWS, AND KILLING OTHER SMALL ANIMALS. o Pearl, Mississippi o West Paducah, Kentucky o Jonesboro, Arkansas o Springfield, Oregon o Littleton, Colorado o Conyers, Georgia o San Diego, California Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 18, 2022 Share December 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Fcw75 said: That’s probably what he will do when he grow up, if he was not caught. 5 hours ago, Scion said: warped BS logic 🤬 same as no money go and rob or no love go and rape No amount of punishment going to correct his behaviour. It is built into his DNA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged December 18, 2022 Share December 18, 2022 (edited) https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act-Rev/PC1871/Published/20081130?DocDate=20081130&ProvIds=P4IV_76-#pr106- Technically this boy can still be charged as he is above 7 years of age. Now it's a battery of assessing his maturity and understanding of the act. Edited December 18, 2022 by Philipkee 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic December 18, 2022 Share December 18, 2022 Could be a future CEO in the making. 😅 Let's hope he gets some help. https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/are-kids-who-abuse-animals-destined-to-become-serial-killers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic December 18, 2022 Share December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Voodooman said: Could be a future CEO in the making. 😅 Let's hope he gets some help. https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/are-kids-who-abuse-animals-destined-to-become-serial-killers Or a Dentist. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged December 19, 2022 Share December 19, 2022 It is wrong to do what this boy did but putting the video on social media also not correct. It is PDPA, he should submit the video to the police for them to take the appropriate action. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 19, 2022 Share December 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, Victor68 said: It is wrong to do what this boy did but putting the video on social media also not correct. It is PDPA, he should submit the video to the police for them to take the appropriate action. Like that sgvigilante toh already 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arogab Turbocharged December 19, 2022 Share December 19, 2022 Sad lah, what have our society become. I wonder how the law will take care of this boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwaver Turbocharged December 22, 2022 Share December 22, 2022 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/boy-throw-cat-hdb-boon-lay-block-triggers-animal-cruelty-violence-3159881 Commentary: When children are cruel to animals, there’s usually an underlying trigger Of all the aberrant behaviours, cruelty towards animals by children is particularly chilling. Psychiatrist Lim Boon Leng weighs in on what might trigger young children to commit such acts. SINGAPORE: When a video of a child throwing a cat off an HDB block came to light, the emotional backlash from social media was tremendous. An online petition calling for justice for the cat garnered more than 65,000 signatures at the time of writing. As a pet owner myself, the video was extremely distressing to watch, and the act of cruelty was totally incomprehensible to me. However, setting my own emotions aside and putting on my hat as a psychiatrist, the immediate question is: Why? Why would a young child commit such a cruel act? ACTS OF CRUELTY The study of psychiatry consists of observing and categorising pathological or abnormal human behaviours. Of all the aberrant behaviours we deal with, the act of cruelty towards an animal by a child can be particularly chilling in nature. While common acts of cruelty such as pulling off the legs or cutting the wings of an insect and rough handling of small animals often go ignored, unusual, hideous acts of mutilating or killing larger animals often make people sick to the stomach. On one hand, we have the tendency to anthropomorphise bigger vertebrae animals, like cats and dogs, and therefore empathise more with their sufferings in the same way we would a fellow human being. On the other hand, what may truly petrify us is that these cruel acts by seemingly naive children suggest a primal evil that our own fragile conscience may be repressing. The study of psychiatry can only be complete with the understanding of the motivations behind a behaviour. Some studies have shown that up to 44 per cent of children may have abused animals at one point or another in their childhood. It is pertinent to note that the definition of animal abuse can be vague and differs from study to study. If we were to take only the abuse of vertebrates into account, the prevalence of animal abuse may be much lower. Much of this abuse likely represents curiosity or exploration in the young, with the children examining and mishandling small insects or animals and injuring or killing them in the process. TRIGGERS OF CRUELTY TOWARDS ANIMALS Abuse of animals have been shown to be more likely in younger boys. Younger children have a higher tendency to externalise their negative emotions and may act out on pets. As they grow older, they learn to regulate their emotions, know right from wrong, and stop performing such acts. While the developmental motives behind animal abuse by children and youths may not be well researched, interviews have given us some answers. Other than curiosity or exploration, motivations for animal cruelty can include peer pressure, mood enhancement to relieve boredom or depression, sexual gratification or being forced to by a more powerful individual. Motivations may also include killing an animal to prevent its torture by another individual, animal phobia and pre-emptively attacking a feared animal. In some cases, the abuser may have been abused before and want to exert control by hurting a more vulnerable victim. The act may also be a post-traumatic enactment on an animal, or modelling after an adult abuser, deliberate self-injury by using an animal, rehearsal and practicing violence before attacking others, and emotionally abusing others through their pets. In more serious transgressions, domestic violence and child abuse appear to be the main triggers of cruelty towards animals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipping Supersonic July 29, 2023 Share July 29, 2023 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/boy-threw-cat-hdb-stern-warning-avs-rehab-programme-3660596 Boy who threw cat off HDB block issued stern warning after completing rehabilitative programme A psychiatric assessment found that the boy, aged 10, did not have sufficient maturity to understand the nature and consequences of his actions. 02:46 Min A 10-year-old boy who threw a community cat off a Housing and Development Board (HDB) block last December has been issued a stern warning after completing a rehabilitative programme conducted by the Animal and Veterinary Service…see more Louisa Tang Louisa Tang 28 Jul 2023 01:31PM (Updated: 28 Jul 2023 10:59PM) Bookmark Share SINGAPORE: A 10-year-old boy who threw a community cat off a Housing and Development Board (HDB) block last December has been issued a stern warning after completing a rehabilitative programme conducted by the Animal and Veterinary Service (AVS). In a statement to the media on Friday (Jul 28), AVS’ group director Jessica Kwok said that the boy now better understands why his actions were wrong, and wanted to “convey his remorse and apology” to the cat’s caregivers. He also said he would not do it again. Advertisement The boy was assessed by a psychiatrist from the Institute of Mental Health, who found that he did not have sufficient maturity to understand the nature and consequences of his actions, added Ms Kwok. The case first came to light on Dec 15, 2022 when the boy was caught on a closed-circuit television camera throwing the male cat, named Panther, off an HDB block. Footage of the incident was then posted on Facebook, showing the boy following the black feline out of a lift, before picking the cat up and throwing it over a ledge. A loud crash can be heard seconds later. The Facebook post said the cat was thrown off the 22nd floor of Block 186 Boon Lay Avenue. It died of its injuries. Related: Authorities investigating after boy caught on video throwing cat off HDB block Assessing mental state of boy who threw cat off Boon Lay block is key to any criminal case, say lawyers Cat Welfare Society had helped the cat’s caregivers to file a police report. The caregivers previously told CNA that Panther had been cared for in the community for more than 15 years. Advertisement On Friday, Ms Kwok said in her statement that the boy was placed on a "diversionary programme" after AVS – a cluster of the National Parks Board – consulted the Attorney-General’s Chambers. The boy’s age and his psychiatric assessment were also taken into account. The boy completed the programme in June. Ms Kwok added: “A diversionary programme was assessed to be the most appropriate course of action as the programme centres on rehabilitation, by getting the offender to understand animal welfare, how to care for animals, living with animals in the community, and why his actions were wrong." Through the programme, he learned about animal welfare, laws protecting animal health and welfare in Singapore, the needs and behaviour of cats, living with cats in the community, and responsible pet ownership. This was “conducted in an age-appropriate manner”, Ms Kwok noted. The boy also underwent practical sessions at a cat shelter where he was required to properly care for cats such as feeding, handling and grooming them. Advertisement His father accompanied him throughout the programme. “AVS assessed that the boy had completed the programme satisfactorily and is now able to understand better why his actions were wrong. The boy also regretted his actions,” said Ms Kwok. “He wanted to convey his remorse and apology to the cat's caregivers, and said that he would not do it again. Upon the boy's completion of the programme, AVS issued a stern warning to him, and will continue to work with his school to monitor his progress.” AVS does not condone the mistreatment of pets and community animals, and will take appropriate enforcement action against those who do not provide adequate care for their pet or commit animal cruelty, Ms Kwok added. First-time offenders caught abusing an animal can be charged in court under the Animal and Birds Act and those convicted can be jailed for up to 18 months, fined up to S$15,000, or both. Advertisement Meanwhile, first-time offenders who fail in their duty of care to their pets can be fined up to $10,000, jailed for up to 12 months, or both. Offenders can also be banned from owning an animal for up to 12 months. This is on top of any jail term or fine to which the offender is sentenced. Members of the public can report suspected cases of animal cruelty to AVS via its website or Animal Response Centre at 1800-476-1600. Related: Commentary: When children are cruel to animals, there’s usually an underlying trigger IN FOCUS: Why are people cruel to pets and wildlife? NO OTHER REPORTS RECEIVED During a briefing with reporters, Ms Kwok addressed questions on allegations that the boy was involved in other similar cases in the same neighbourhood. “For this particular boy, we did not receive any other reports of him being involved in other cases,” she said. “If we have received any feedback, we would definitely have investigated it but we did not receive any.” AVS has also kept in touch with the boy’s family and school to monitor his progress and ensure things are all right, Ms Kwok added. She further noted that AVS identified and spoke to him and his mother “within hours” of receiving a report. It then took about four months for AVS to put forth its findings and recommendations to AGC, which concurred with them that the diversionary programme was the best course of action. “We wanted to let the boy complete the programme, and then we wanted to time (the programme) with the June school holidays so that it minimises any disruption to the schoolwork. All those were taken into consideration,” Ms Kwok said. “So now that he’s completed the diversionary programme satisfactorily, we’ve (given a stern warning). We can close the case. "This is why we then have arranged for this briefing, because we also understand that there are a lot of people who are very concerned about this case.” As for whether a diversionary programme would be AVS’ future stance on children who are found to have abused animals, Ms Kwok said that AVS has to look at various factors in totality, and that not all cases will go down that route. AVS decided that the programme was most appropriate after working with the IMH psychiatrist to better understand the boy’s level of maturity. It also worked with the boy’s school and family, she added. Separately, Ms Kwok gave updates on two similar cases – a teenager who was caught humping a cat along a HDB block corridor in April, and several pet cats found caged and abandoned in a Jalan Minyak rental flat in June. The teenager's case is being investigated by the police, while investigations are ongoing on the latter case. Ms Kwok stressed that their investigators can only rely on direct eyewitnesses, CCTV footage and veterinary reports, given that the victims are voiceless. Of the 1,250 animal cruelty cases a year that AVS investigates, about 5 per cent are substantiated with evidence to show an offence has taken place, she added. Enforcement action has been taken in these cases, ranging from issuing warning letters to composition fines. Offenders can also be charged in court in cases involving a large number of animals, or where animal welfare was severely compromised. Source: CNA/lt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged July 29, 2023 Share July 29, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 2:52 PM, zipping said: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/boy-threw-cat-hdb-stern-warning-avs-rehab-programme-3660596 Boy who threw cat off HDB block issued stern warning after completing rehabilitative programme A psychiatric assessment found that the boy, aged 10, did not have sufficient maturity to understand the nature and consequences of his actions. 02:46 Min A 10-year-old boy who threw a community cat off a Housing and Development Board (HDB) block last December has been issued a stern warning after completing a rehabilitative programme conducted by the Animal and Veterinary Service…see more Louisa Tang Louisa Tang 28 Jul 2023 01:31PM (Updated: 28 Jul 2023 10:59PM) Bookmark Share SINGAPORE: A 10-year-old boy who threw a community cat off a Housing and Development Board (HDB) block last December has been issued a stern warning after completing a rehabilitative programme conducted by the Animal and Veterinary Service (AVS). In a statement to the media on Friday (Jul 28), AVS’ group director Jessica Kwok said that the boy now better understands why his actions were wrong, and wanted to “convey his remorse and apology” to the cat’s caregivers. He also said he would not do it again. Advertisement The boy was assessed by a psychiatrist from the Institute of Mental Health, who found that he did not have sufficient maturity to understand the nature and consequences of his actions, added Ms Kwok. The case first came to light on Dec 15, 2022 when the boy was caught on a closed-circuit television camera throwing the male cat, named Panther, off an HDB block. Footage of the incident was then posted on Facebook, showing the boy following the black feline out of a lift, before picking the cat up and throwing it over a ledge. A loud crash can be heard seconds later. The Facebook post said the cat was thrown off the 22nd floor of Block 186 Boon Lay Avenue. It died of its injuries. Related: Authorities investigating after boy caught on video throwing cat off HDB block Assessing mental state of boy who threw cat off Boon Lay block is key to any criminal case, say lawyers Cat Welfare Society had helped the cat’s caregivers to file a police report. The caregivers previously told CNA that Panther had been cared for in the community for more than 15 years. Advertisement On Friday, Ms Kwok said in her statement that the boy was placed on a "diversionary programme" after AVS – a cluster of the National Parks Board – consulted the Attorney-General’s Chambers. The boy’s age and his psychiatric assessment were also taken into account. The boy completed the programme in June. Ms Kwok added: “A diversionary programme was assessed to be the most appropriate course of action as the programme centres on rehabilitation, by getting the offender to understand animal welfare, how to care for animals, living with animals in the community, and why his actions were wrong." Through the programme, he learned about animal welfare, laws protecting animal health and welfare in Singapore, the needs and behaviour of cats, living with cats in the community, and responsible pet ownership. This was “conducted in an age-appropriate manner”, Ms Kwok noted. The boy also underwent practical sessions at a cat shelter where he was required to properly care for cats such as feeding, handling and grooming them. Advertisement His father accompanied him throughout the programme. “AVS assessed that the boy had completed the programme satisfactorily and is now able to understand better why his actions were wrong. The boy also regretted his actions,” said Ms Kwok. “He wanted to convey his remorse and apology to the cat's caregivers, and said that he would not do it again. Upon the boy's completion of the programme, AVS issued a stern warning to him, and will continue to work with his school to monitor his progress.” AVS does not condone the mistreatment of pets and community animals, and will take appropriate enforcement action against those who do not provide adequate care for their pet or commit animal cruelty, Ms Kwok added. First-time offenders caught abusing an animal can be charged in court under the Animal and Birds Act and those convicted can be jailed for up to 18 months, fined up to S$15,000, or both. Advertisement Meanwhile, first-time offenders who fail in their duty of care to their pets can be fined up to $10,000, jailed for up to 12 months, or both. Offenders can also be banned from owning an animal for up to 12 months. This is on top of any jail term or fine to which the offender is sentenced. Members of the public can report suspected cases of animal cruelty to AVS via its website or Animal Response Centre at 1800-476-1600. Related: Commentary: When children are cruel to animals, there’s usually an underlying trigger IN FOCUS: Why are people cruel to pets and wildlife? NO OTHER REPORTS RECEIVED During a briefing with reporters, Ms Kwok addressed questions on allegations that the boy was involved in other similar cases in the same neighbourhood. “For this particular boy, we did not receive any other reports of him being involved in other cases,” she said. “If we have received any feedback, we would definitely have investigated it but we did not receive any.” AVS has also kept in touch with the boy’s family and school to monitor his progress and ensure things are all right, Ms Kwok added. She further noted that AVS identified and spoke to him and his mother “within hours” of receiving a report. It then took about four months for AVS to put forth its findings and recommendations to AGC, which concurred with them that the diversionary programme was the best course of action. “We wanted to let the boy complete the programme, and then we wanted to time (the programme) with the June school holidays so that it minimises any disruption to the schoolwork. All those were taken into consideration,” Ms Kwok said. “So now that he’s completed the diversionary programme satisfactorily, we’ve (given a stern warning). We can close the case. "This is why we then have arranged for this briefing, because we also understand that there are a lot of people who are very concerned about this case.” As for whether a diversionary programme would be AVS’ future stance on children who are found to have abused animals, Ms Kwok said that AVS has to look at various factors in totality, and that not all cases will go down that route. AVS decided that the programme was most appropriate after working with the IMH psychiatrist to better understand the boy’s level of maturity. It also worked with the boy’s school and family, she added. Separately, Ms Kwok gave updates on two similar cases – a teenager who was caught humping a cat along a HDB block corridor in April, and several pet cats found caged and abandoned in a Jalan Minyak rental flat in June. The teenager's case is being investigated by the police, while investigations are ongoing on the latter case. Ms Kwok stressed that their investigators can only rely on direct eyewitnesses, CCTV footage and veterinary reports, given that the victims are voiceless. Of the 1,250 animal cruelty cases a year that AVS investigates, about 5 per cent are substantiated with evidence to show an offence has taken place, she added. Enforcement action has been taken in these cases, ranging from issuing warning letters to composition fines. Offenders can also be charged in court in cases involving a large number of animals, or where animal welfare was severely compromised. Source: CNA/lt Nowadays, in so many words and so complex procedures. Last time, at that age, just give one good whacking at home by his parents, can settle liao 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic July 29, 2023 Share July 29, 2023 Who’s the psychiatrist? I know who not to look for if there’s ever a need. I don’t see other 10 years old not knowing it is wrong to throw a cat off a block. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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