NSF dies fighting fire

[Tohto]

Just now, Fitvip said:

The sky also cry for him...😭

[Fitvip]

50 minutes ago, Tohto said:

The sky also cry for him...😭

It started to drizzle during the casket transfer and it poured when the procession started.

[BanCoe]

Noob question ...... in any fire or other workplace accidents its SCDF or MOM (depending on the type of site incident) they are the one's to highlight workers safety or infringes; Now in this case who takes over them??  Fire's happen regularly and worksite accidents happen too regularly.... hope its not a case of ownself check ownself now??        

[Stratovarius]

4 hours ago, Tohto said:

The sky also cry for him...😭

"A hand above the water

An angel reaching for the sky

Is it raining in heaven

Do you want us to cry?"

 

 

 

 

[Stratovarius]

1 hour ago, BanCoe said:

Noob question ...... in any fire or other workplace accidents its SCDF or MOM (depending on the type of site incident) they are the one's to highlight workers safety or infringes; Now in this case who takes over them??  Fire's happen regularly and worksite accidents happen too regularly.... hope its not a case of ownself check ownself now??        

If I'm not wrong. Mom only involved in workplace incidents. So might not be involve for household fire. Likely only scdf.

[BanCoe]

36 minutes ago, Stratovarius said:

If I'm not wrong. Mom only involved in workplace incidents. So might not be involve for household fire. Likely only scdf.

Exactly .... was just drawing a parallel as both these Agencies are the one's having the last word in their respective fields ..... of course MOM is more admin and compliant based (just paper work execution/ collating info and rectification measures thereafter with $$$ to the contractor/biz owner) but SCDF is real time real world just like the Polis     

[Jman888]

I believe work place accident can be prevented given stringent SOP, but fire sites are full of uncertainty. 

[Stratovarius]

3 minutes ago, Jman888 said:

I believe work place accident can be prevented given stringent SOP, but fire sites are full of uncertainty. 

Old flats are always at higher risks coz the original cables are thinner than the current ones. Sockets are insufficient and db are smaller coz last time not much appliances. High load will heat up the wires and damage the insulation. People should be educated on this also.

[Gizmore]

May his brave soul rest in peace.

[Busker888]

@MacrosszeroSAF is fighting a war of deterence while the SCDF/SPF are operating in real life situation; however I feel National Service deserves a much higher level of recognition in how every Singapore born male put life at risk...telling us that new citizens do not need to do NS as they did not enjoyed the same benefits as those born here really tell us how much recognition there is for what we went thru 2-2.5 years. Sad. 

[Christan]

13 hours ago, Tkseah said:

Noticed that the condition of rental flats are usually not very good.. Does HDB as the landlord check and replace all the old electrical wiring and sockets that tends to deteriorate after many years of usage?

This would only be possible if the flats undergo upgrading programme where electrical wiring will be checked along with the other stuffs like plumbing, ceiling etc. But those staying in rental flat are 'temporary' so unlikely they will want to pay for these checks and replacements. And seeing HDB have been incurring 'losses' every year, no way would they want to absorb this cost as well. Thus there is minimal maintenance for such flats unless there is a safety risk, I guess.

[Sosaria]

33 minutes ago, Busker888 said:

@MacrosszeroSAF is fighting a war of deterence while the SCDF/SPF are operating in real life situation; however I feel National Service deserves a much higher level of recognition in how every Singapore born male put life at risk...telling us that new citizens do not need to do NS as they did not enjoyed the same benefits as those born here really tell us how much recognition there is for what we went thru 2-2.5 years. Sad. 

I figure it's more of an age problem rather than any enjoyment of "benefits".

For a new citizen get the citizenship in 30s or 40s or older, working professional, how to be suitable for NS?

But if they have kids that get citizenship, say, in the teens or younger, those kids can't avoid NS.

[Sosaria]

1 hour ago, Stratovarius said:

Old flats are always at higher risks coz the original cables are thinner than the current ones. Sockets are insufficient and db are smaller coz last time not much appliances. High load will heat up the wires and damage the insulation. People should be educated on this also.

The flats are not old and dingy, despite being rental. Not sure if it is a newly built block but it sure does look new based on photos of the unoccupied unit that the affected families moved into.

[Benarsenal]

1 hour ago, Busker888 said:

@MacrosszeroSAF is fighting a war of deterence while the SCDF/SPF are operating in real life situation; however I feel National Service deserves a much higher level of recognition in how every Singapore born male put life at risk...telling us that new citizens do not need to do NS as they did not enjoyed the same benefits as those born here really tell us how much recognition there is for what we went thru 2-2.5 years. Sad. 

I agree. In other countries military personnel get a lot of benefits (free/cheaper public transport, priority for Govt services etc). Here our NS boys are treated like cheap labour.

[Benarsenal]

57 minutes ago, Sosaria said:

The flats are not old and dingy, despite being rental. Not sure if it is a newly built block but it sure does look new based on photos of the unoccupied unit that the affected families moved into.

It's not new ah. The flats were built in the 70s.

[Shibadog]

5 hours ago, BanCoe said:

Noob question ...... in any fire or other workplace accidents its SCDF or MOM (depending on the type of site incident) they are the one's to highlight workers safety or infringes; Now in this case who takes over them??  Fire's happen regularly and worksite accidents happen too regularly.... hope its not a case of ownself check ownself now??        

internal audit team.

if serious, appoint external team from MHA + independent professionals. 

[Busker888]

@Sosaria We have cyber defence division now...even pai kar also can do. NSmen also can do high key reservist 3 weeks, if these new citizen can't afford the time to do then they are as good as a foreigner when war comes...first to fly off Changi airport tarmac. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Busker888

[Fitvip]

Henderson Rd fire NSF death: Funeral wake tent blocked fire engine access point, causing 18-min delay

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So, this complaint actually has its merit, no doubt the main grouse was something else. It also posed safety issues.

 

Edited January 9, 2023 by Fitvip