BMW says keeping your old car could be better than buying new one

[Volvobrick]

14 minutes ago, Fitvip said:

Provided they don't catch fire.🤐

definitely need to "refresh" the aircon system. Even when fairly new. 

[RadX]

13 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

definitely need to "refresh" the aircon system. Even when fairly new. 

No la

 

aircon spoil 

 

change car la

 

chey😂

[ER-3682]

8 hours ago, inlinesix said:

There are loads of well-maintained BMW in Malaysia.

Maybe Sinkie too "poor" to maintain BMW.

Do you find Singapore BMW Workshops very Expensive.?

[inlinesix]

45 minutes ago, ER-3682 said:

Do you find Singapore BMW Workshops very Expensive.?

Can’t compare. Never own BMW outside of Singapore.

What’s your thought?

Edited November 29, 2022 by inlinesix

[ER-3682]

@inlinesix Malaysia even at their Agent is cheaper than Singapore BMW Specialists.

[inlinesix]

8 minutes ago, ER-3682 said:

@inlinesix Malaysia even at their Agent is cheaper than Singapore BMW Specialists.

You run bz.
You also know SG bz cost is higher.

[Wt_know]

aint gonna work for sinkieland …  

 

[ER-3682]

17 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

aint gonna work for sinkieland …  

 

Only can Export.

[ER-3682]

12 hours ago, inlinesix said:

You run bz.
You also know SG bz cost is higher.

Most Workshops Boss wanted good profit...they charged Customers high prices..but Salaries to their Mechanics are below $3,000.

[inlinesix]

8 minutes ago, ER-3682 said:

Most Workshops Boss wanted good profit...they charged Customers high prices..but Salaries to their Mechanics are below $3,000.

Not forgetting number of cars in Singapore is limited.

https://paultan.org/2022/11/29/seong-hoe-premium-motors-bmw-and-mini-showroom-reopened-in-melaka-with-30-kw-dcfc-at-rm0-40-min/

BMW and Mini showroom in Malacca is better looking than PML

 

[Cephas]

Well maintained vs driveable

Guess the latter echos more in SG

[Beehive3783]

On 11/30/2022 at 8:48 AM, Wt_know said:

aint gonna work for sinkieland …  

 

1. If that fella can afford the renewed COE road tax, the PQP probably isn't a problem

2. If he can't afford the renewed COE road tax, then he's probably posting video for fun knowing he's gonna dispose of it either way  

[Windwaver]

https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/burning-money-man-buys-second-hand-bmw-hes-forced-take-public-transport-every-day

'Like burning money': Man buys second-hand BMW but he's forced to take public transport every day

This man took up a sizeable bank loan to pay for his first car, but it is now left idle at a carpark under his block.

The defects on Tan Yong Chang's new purchase made travelling on the roads unsafe, which forced him to take a taxi to work every day. 

Speaking with AsiaOne on Monday (Dec 5), the 27-year-old, who is in the logistics business, lamented: "Having to pay for a car and not being able to use it, it's just like burning money."

Tan shared that he placed a $500 deposit for a second-hand BMW E60 5 Series 523i with Evolution Motors Private Limited in August.

During a test drive that same month, Tan noticed several problems with the car. These include defects on the vehicle's shock absorbers, engines, windows, and door locks.

The defects were highlighted to Farhan Abdul Azis, the owner of the dealership, the customer said. "He promised that he will get them fixed before the handover of the vehicle."

Car dealership boss 'gives excuses'

Trusting Farhan at his word, Tan took up a bank loan in early September to pay for the $112,580 car.

But when the man picked it up on Sept 29, he shared that he wasn't even given a working car key.

"I had to change the key casing and duplicate one more," Tan said, adding that the defects were not rectified as promised and the car was not washed at all.

Despite voicing his unhappiness to Farhan, the first-time car owner shared that the dealership boss kept attributing Covid-19, manpower and supplier issues to the delays in fixing the defects.

Adding he has been given "excuses" for the past three months, Tan said: "I trusted Farhan since he's the boss of his company, but he ended up being worse than a salesman."

Being in the logistics business, Tan shared that a car is "crucial" for his work commitments.

This was the reason why he chose to drive the faulty vehicle around for months, he said, adding that it was fortunate that he didn't get into accidents on the road.

Describing how the car would "shake" whenever he stepped on the gas, Tan said: "I went to the mechanic last Sunday (Dec 4) and I was shocked by how serious the defects were."

At a loss of what to do next 

Even after lodging a police report on Nov 19, Tan shared that he is at a loss of what to do next.

Adding that he has yet to receive an invoice from Evolution Motors, the customer said: "I don't know whether there will be a breach or whether I can claim [compensation] for the repairs.

"I'm pretty much p***** off. If they can't fix the car, they should say so and not give excuses. Till date, I'm scared of repairing it on my own."

Stuck with a faulty car for months, Tan is forced to take a taxi for deliveries and meetings – incurring additional expenses of up to $80 daily.

While he has a van, the man shared that he is unable to park in multi-storey car parks since they have low ceilings.

"I bought a car to save time, but it ended up being not safe to drive. The inconvenience is a big hassle," he lamented. 

AsiaOne has contacted Evolution Motors Private Limited for comment.

In Singapore, the Lemon Law protects consumers against defects of goods purchased within six months here. This includes all goods purchased that are brand new or used, including cars.

 

[ER-3682]

11 hours ago, Windwaver said:

https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/burning-money-man-buys-second-hand-bmw-hes-forced-take-public-transport-every-day

'Like burning money': Man buys second-hand BMW but he's forced to take public transport every day

This man took up a sizeable bank loan to pay for his first car, but it is now left idle at a carpark under his block.

The defects on Tan Yong Chang's new purchase made travelling on the roads unsafe, which forced him to take a taxi to work every day. 

Speaking with AsiaOne on Monday (Dec 5), the 27-year-old, who is in the logistics business, lamented: "Having to pay for a car and not being able to use it, it's just like burning money."

Tan shared that he placed a $500 deposit for a second-hand BMW E60 5 Series 523i with Evolution Motors Private Limited in August.

During a test drive that same month, Tan noticed several problems with the car. These include defects on the vehicle's shock absorbers, engines, windows, and door locks.

The defects were highlighted to Farhan Abdul Azis, the owner of the dealership, the customer said. "He promised that he will get them fixed before the handover of the vehicle."

Car dealership boss 'gives excuses'

Trusting Farhan at his word, Tan took up a bank loan in early September to pay for the $112,580 car.

But when the man picked it up on Sept 29, he shared that he wasn't even given a working car key.

"I had to change the key casing and duplicate one more," Tan said, adding that the defects were not rectified as promised and the car was not washed at all.

Despite voicing his unhappiness to Farhan, the first-time car owner shared that the dealership boss kept attributing Covid-19, manpower and supplier issues to the delays in fixing the defects.

Adding he has been given "excuses" for the past three months, Tan said: "I trusted Farhan since he's the boss of his company, but he ended up being worse than a salesman."

Being in the logistics business, Tan shared that a car is "crucial" for his work commitments.

This was the reason why he chose to drive the faulty vehicle around for months, he said, adding that it was fortunate that he didn't get into accidents on the road.

Describing how the car would "shake" whenever he stepped on the gas, Tan said: "I went to the mechanic last Sunday (Dec 4) and I was shocked by how serious the defects were."

At a loss of what to do next 

Even after lodging a police report on Nov 19, Tan shared that he is at a loss of what to do next.

Adding that he has yet to receive an invoice from Evolution Motors, the customer said: "I don't know whether there will be a breach or whether I can claim [compensation] for the repairs.

"I'm pretty much p***** off. If they can't fix the car, they should say so and not give excuses. Till date, I'm scared of repairing it on my own."

Stuck with a faulty car for months, Tan is forced to take a taxi for deliveries and meetings – incurring additional expenses of up to $80 daily.

While he has a van, the man shared that he is unable to park in multi-storey car parks since they have low ceilings.

"I bought a car to save time, but it ended up being not safe to drive. The inconvenience is a big hassle," he lamented. 

AsiaOne has contacted Evolution Motors Private Limited for comment.

In Singapore, the Lemon Law protects consumers against defects of goods purchased within six months here. This includes all goods purchased that are brand new or used, including cars.

 

E60 should be a over 20 years old Car...$112,000 for this Car.?

[inlinesix]

Just now, ER-3682 said:

E60 should be a over 20 years old Car...$112,000 for this Car.?

Where got so old?  Maximum 18 years.

My previous E39 was made in 2002

[Steptronic]

19 minutes ago, ER-3682 said:

E60 should be a over 20 years old Car...$112,000 for this Car.?

It came to Sg towards end of 2004. You are right, For 112k, he could have gotten more reliable F10. E60 had its own set of issues and famous one was poor AC and related repairs in many cars.

Edit: E60 should be half the price if not quarter of it.

Edited December 7, 2022 by Steptronic

[ER-3682]

2 minutes ago, Steptronic said:

It came to Sg towards end of 2004. You are right, For 112k, he could have gotten more reliable F10. E60 had its own set of issues and famous one was poor AC and related repairs in many cars.

Edit: E60 should be half the price if not quarter of it.

Maybe just paid the latest COE..Car can use 10 years.

[Steptronic]

3 minutes ago, ER-3682 said:

Maybe just paid the latest COE..Car can use 10 years.

Was thinking about it. E60 was sold by PML till Q2/Q3 2010 only. Could be an Parallel import. In any angle, 112k is not justified. Real first time buyer - pity him.