DOBIEMKZ Turbocharged October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 Think Your Car Door Sounds Nice and Solid When It Slams? It’s Faked https://www.thedrive.com/news/35871/think-your-car-door-sounds-nice-and-solid-when-it-slams-its-faked?utm_campaign=trueanthem_AI&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=thedrive&fbclid=IwAR2PNsXRJGlkd4-5-6YsLo8gkBXq6CkWFDaUJv100Epha-3ZI1XxT9buqLQ Those doors were carefully engineered to sound much sturdier than they really are. BYSTEF SCHRADER | PUBLISHED AUG 19, 2020 7:08 PM The sound of your car's door slamming is a lie. A trick. A clever ruse. And it's all thanks to the engineers who designed your car. Your car doors are carefully designed to sound sturdier than they really are, reports Mel. You can thank psychoacoustics for this practice, which is the study of the mind's perception of different sounds. Here's an example: Ever experience the satisfying thud of closing a 1980s BMW door? There's a heft to those doors that makes them feel solid. Substantial. You're safe here. This car is well-made. Yet we all know that even high-end cars have lost a lot of that extra heft, largely thanks to advances in automotive safety, as AutoBead co-founder James Ford explained to Mel: Engineering the sound of a car door closing can be traced back to changes in the car manufacturing industry 10 years ago. Increased safety measures meant that car manufacturers had to add extra bars to the side doors to meet safety regulations, which subsequently impacted the sound that doors made while closing So, while your car may be safer now, automakers know that you associate that meaty clunk with quality. Less expensive cars have emulated this, too. The author of the Mel story talks about how satisfying the sound of his 2012 Nissan Sentra's door slamming is, and a Sentra is about as far from a luxury car as you can get without buying something like a Mitsubishi Mirage or a Kandi Coco. “One of the first things a prospective car buyer encounters is the sound of the driver’s door closing — often inside the showroom. This sound gives a subconscious sense of value,” music professor Jonathan Berger explained to Mel. Berger, who works in the Stanford University Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics, has even tested out this theory by making students in his psychoacoustics class rank different car doors from most to least expensive based solely on the sound of their doors. Respondents claimed that the low, soft thuds with an after-sound of some sort (the example Berger gave with a "ker-chunk") came off as the fanciest. A Purdue University survey from 2016 cited by Mel came to a similar conclusion: tinny-sounding door slams came off as cheap and flimsy. Car companies know that perception matters when it comes to selling their cars, too. Ford themselves admitted that "engineering the right sound of a car door closing was their first opportunity to make buyers feel the car’s quality, craftsmanship and safety and to justify a premium price tag," as quoted by Mel. Lexus even made a whole video about their quest for the perfect close. Mercedes' own manager of sound quality and design Tobias Beitz also told Bloomberg that "the optimal acoustic design of the door structure, latches and seals" was what signified the quality buyers wanted—not weight. Even Opel—purveyor of fine reasonably-priced European cars—spends a good amount of time analyzing the sounds that different parts (including doors) make before a car goes into production, as shown in the Deutsche Welle video above. This is why each brand staffs sound engineers like Beitz to make sure the car door has the right combination of foam, mats and other soft components to make you think you're feeling an eighties 3 Series door, even when you've got a modern Sentra. Even the locking mechanism is specifically tinkered with to make the right click. So, we hate to break it to you—your doors are one big lie. ↡ Advertisement 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowshaun 4th Gear October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 Well.. my toyota vios didnt bother with the acoustics... But when i closed the avante or k3 wowww conti feel! =D 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stary Turbocharged October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 (edited) Frankly I don't care how it sounds as long it can close properly. And please remove all these sound engineering stuff and reduce the price by 20k. Thank you. 😁 Edited October 12, 2022 by Starry 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inlinefour Twincharged October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 prefer soft close suction door sibay nice 👍 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 The fact that soundproofing is a considerable aftermarket modification - there are still manufacturers who haven’t caught on to this idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stary Turbocharged October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, Macrosszero said: The fact that soundproofing is a considerable aftermarket modification - there are still manufacturers who haven’t caught on to this idea. Yeap, I rather they soundproof the door than to invest in giving the perfect closing sound. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 I only know the sound of a 6,8,10 or 12 Cylinders Engine is much better than 3 or 4 Cylinders. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Starry said: Frankly I don't care how it sounds as long it can close properly. And please remove all these sound engineering stuff and reduce the price by 20k. Thank you. 😁 Unfortunately, that's not gonna happen as long as the sheeple keep paying for this stuff. Nor is the "active sound" or whatever going to go anywhere soon. No, you get to have soundproofing PLUS our specially engineered, and totally fake sound, which you can't turn all the way off haha. Car companies will keep spending on R&D for "look and feel" rather than actually meritorious things, as long as they can pass the costs along to end consumers, who will pay more because they're being bamboozled into thinking they're buying a safer, more up-market product. It's a vicious cycle. The only thing more perverse than this that I've seen is clothing brands advertising themselves. Remember, when you buy that A&F shirt proudly sporting A&F across your chest, *you're* paying *them* to let *you* become a living, breathing walking ad for *them*. Sigh. Back to cars, I prefer objective safety measures with ratings. And what I call "active safety", which is basically high performance that prevents situations and allows you to escape dangerous situations by active maneuvering. Like brakes, handling and POWER (plus torque). Ceteris paribus, a faster car is a safer car. No matter what the Roach Vaginante types might think. Edited October 12, 2022 by 1fast1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Starry said: Frankly I don't care how it sounds as long it can close properly. And please remove all these sound engineering stuff and reduce the price by 20k. Thank you. 😁 Build your own car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic October 13, 2022 Share October 13, 2022 No wonder customers come see my car will do the slam door sound test. In the end no matter how good it sounds they just buy based on price. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic October 13, 2022 Share October 13, 2022 I for one dont care about how the feel good doors sound. These are one of the things that I feel ppl focus on the wrong things in a car. The door is typically hollow with two crash beams. The window need space to fully wind down so when it is up, more hollow space. As long as the door closes properly there is no need to reinvent the car door. Focus instead on making car parts and electronics more reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic October 13, 2022 Share October 13, 2022 Some people add a thinker rubber gasket and closes with even less sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic October 13, 2022 Share October 13, 2022 So far what is fake can be found on a car? Fake exhaust outlets, fake engine noise from the speaker, fake feel good door thuds, fake air vents, fake carbon fibre parts, etc. Seriously car makers should stop making fake things. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOBIEMKZ Turbocharged October 13, 2022 Author Share October 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Starry said: Frankly I don't care how it sounds as long it can close properly. And please remove all these sound engineering stuff and reduce the price by 20k. Thank you. 😁 Well.... I would say f*** the doors! Just remove those doors and reduce the price by 20K. Thank you.😁😁 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 13, 2022 Share October 13, 2022 1 minute ago, DOBIEMKZ said: Well.... I would say f*** the doors! Just remove those doors and reduce the price by 20K. Thank you.😁😁 LTA approve or not? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOBIEMKZ Turbocharged October 13, 2022 Author Share October 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, inlinesix said: LTA approve or not? Just say never subscribe to doors, optional items extra costs.😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic October 13, 2022 Share October 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Watwheels said: So far what is fake can be found on a car? Fake exhaust outlets, fake engine noise from the speaker, fake feel good door thuds, fake air vents, fake carbon fibre parts, etc. Seriously car makers should stop making fake things. Howabout fake drivers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arogab Turbocharged October 13, 2022 Share October 13, 2022 Pricing lah. Haha ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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