Singapore reveals it might choose a different F-35 variant

[Mrmilktooth]

https://youtu.be/IXbnzEHZDPg

 

hey he is pushing 60 and can do this irl.. 

we just need more Tomsssss ☺️ Save a lot money 

[Atonchia]

22 minutes ago, Blueray said:

noob question here ... can F-35 do cobra maneuver and kvochur bell maneuver  ?

or is it an issue of

its the pilot, not the plane ?

Cobra move is like bayonet fighting....

To tire out the recruits and make soldiers during POP (when M16 still in use) looked tough.

[Atonchia]

4 minutes ago, Mrmilktooth said:

https://youtu.be/IXbnzEHZDPg

 

hey he is pushing 60 and can do this irl.. 

we just need more Tomsssss ☺️ Save a lot money 

Bro if he can ride the rollercoaster at universal studio....

Then he probably exceeded the requirement of making this movie.😅

Edited September 7, 2022 by Atonchia

[DOBIEMKZ]

11 minutes ago, Mrmilktooth said:

I’m going to watch tom cruise again… 😂 

off topic but they really fly the damn jets for this movie!!… I cannot understand how they did it themselves. U mean he can fly the same level as a F16 pilot?… 

They were not actually flying the planes.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/entertainment/meet-one-of-the-real-navy-pilots-from-top-gun-maverick/509-8d7199c2-6831-4b90-859e-8b5061756a17

"...They're sitting behind military pilots who are.

The scenes look real, because they are.

The movie's creators made sure of it, by having all the actors go through three months of rigorous training to avoid air sickness.

Then, when filming began, they would sit inside the cockpits of fighter jets behind actual pilots who would fly them...

...He was one of several Navy pilots hired for ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ though you'll never see his face.

Most of the scenes he filmed were done inside a two-seat F18.

As he piloted, the actor, which in many cases was Tom Cruise, would sit behind him, with cameras positioned solely on them...."

Edited September 7, 2022 by DOBIEMKZ

[Atonchia]

1 hour ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

They were not actually flying the planes.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/entertainment/meet-one-of-the-real-navy-pilots-from-top-gun-maverick/509-8d7199c2-6831-4b90-859e-8b5061756a17

"...They're sitting behind military pilots who are.

The scenes look real, because they are.

The movie's creators made sure of it, by having all the actors go through three months of rigorous training to avoid air sickness.

Then, when filming began, they would sit inside the cockpits of fighter jets behind actual pilots who would fly them...

...He was one of several Navy pilots hired for ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ though you'll never see his face.

Most of the scenes he filmed were done inside a two-seat F18.

As he piloted, the actor, which in many cases was Tom Cruise, would sit behind him, with cameras positioned solely on them...."

Yup like riding in rollercoaster. 

Just a passenger.

[Thaiyotakamli]

2 hours ago, Atonchia said:

Also due to manpower....

No need to massively re-train all F16 pilots.

As well as the adversaries capability....a correctly configured F16 is more than capable to match potential risks.

Problem neighbour now has bought alot F16s

 

If using F16 to intercept then maybe half half chance

 

need something better than F16 but F35 also seems like cmi for close combat. Sg doesnt really need stealth long range capability. 

[macrosszero]

Singapore's lack of defensive depth means it is entirely understandable that they are not seeking to merely match, but significantly over-match any potential aggressor such that they would not even try - the poisonous shrimp strategy. 

Remember that Malaysia and Indonesia carried out joint airborne exercises in Johor against adversary X during one of Singapore's national days. Sometimes people just want to test the waters.

And so, it falls to the Air Force due to their speed, to be the tip of the spear to reach far and strike hard, and year on year, it flexes its muscles every August to remind others not to try.

[Atonchia]

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/aim-120-advanced-medium-range-air-to-air-missile-amraam/

 

Also multi-role.

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f-15sg-multi-role-fighter-aircraft/

[macrosszero]

10 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Problem neighbour now has bought alot F16s

 

If using F16 to intercept then maybe half half chance

 

need something better than F16 but F35 also seems like cmi for close combat. Sg doesnt really need stealth long range capability. 

Only two other ASEAN nations operate F-16s, one has 30 plus and the other has 50 plus.

We have 60, all of which are Block 52+s, then spiced up with some Israeli toys. Qualitatively, I suspect there is quite a big difference. 

And we don't just have those, but also another 40 Mud hens. 

Edited September 7, 2022 by Macrosszero

[Atonchia]

10 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Problem neighbour now has bought alot F16s

 

If using F16 to intercept then maybe half half chance

 

need something better than F16 but F35 also seems like cmi for close combat. Sg doesnt really need stealth long range capability. 

https://thediplomat.com/2022/02/indonesias-22-billion-purchases-of-us-french-fighter-jets-how-russias-su-35-lost-out/

Not F16 but F15 and Rafale 

[Atonchia]

8 minutes ago, Macrosszero said:

Only two other ASEAN nations operate F-16s, one has 30 plus and the other has 50 plus.

We have 60, all of which are Block 52+s, then spiced up with some Israeli toys. Qualitatively, I suspect there is quite a big difference. 

And we don't just have those, but also another 40 Mud hens. 

Tom Yam one all A & B variant.

Indomee one supposed has the latest version in the plan.

[Atonchia]

28 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Problem neighbour now has bought alot F16s

 

If using F16 to intercept then maybe half half chance

 

need something better than F16 but F35 also seems like cmi for close combat. Sg doesnt really need stealth long range capability. 

https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2022/05/04/indonesias-defence-shopping-spree/

Shopping spree likely to counter balance the power in the region and not to arm race with SG.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2022/08/12/us-indonesia-australia-hold-military-drills-amid-china-concerns/

[Atonchia]

https://thediplomat.com/2022/08/thailands-awkward-pursuit-of-american-f-35as/

Too expensive to replace all F16 with F35.....

Even for USAF.

[Thaiyotakamli]

30 minutes ago, Atonchia said:

https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2022/05/04/indonesias-defence-shopping-spree/

Shopping spree likely to counter balance the power in the region and not to arm race with SG.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2022/08/12/us-indonesia-australia-hold-military-drills-amid-china-concerns/

Sg also increased the budget recently 

 

indonesia no matter how friendly and good the relation, still need to maintain a deterrent force in event of things turn sour

[Jamesc]

Good I hope they go for vertical take off version.

In a war they are going to bomb our airbase and take out our runways.

Then what? All our planes cannot take off.

In a war they are going to bomb our runways and all our planes sitting in airfields.

So the answer is hide all our planes all over the island.

The roll them out of buildings, vertical takeoff, take out their planes and land in any field for mobile tankers to refuel and rearm them, take off and fight again.

This is UK tactics in the cold war where it is expected if USSR went to war they will take out UK airbases.

And this plane was born. The flying bedstead. 

  

Edited September 7, 2022 by Jamesc

[Jamesc]

A knife fight in a phone box is not the F35 thing

Its more a sniper that kills you before you even see him

but I am not sure it cannot dog fight and people saying its not agile is exaggerated.

 

 

[Jamesc]

Getting the vertical F35 also means every cargo ship

becomes an aircraft carrier.

What can our enemies do? Sink every cargo ship? 

Edited September 7, 2022 by Jamesc

[Jamesc]

Tactical flexibility is so important in a war

and a VTOL plane will give us an edge.