Low Engine Oil Warning

[Vratenza]

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BMW outlines such consumption as part of its manufacturer specifications. You can even purchase a traveling case for oil, to affix in the car's trunk.

"Oil consumption is normal on all engines," BMW spokesman Hector Arellano-Belloc said in an e-mailed statement. "BMW vehicles have long intervals between oil changes (10,000 miles). BMW engines (excluding the BMW M) may consume up to one quart of engine oil per 750 miles under certain driving conditions." He added that BMW's M performance models may consume even more oil than that.

 

Found this after a quick google search....damn...😑

[Vratenza]

30 minutes ago, Turboflat4 said:

My F10 M5 used to eat engine oil for breakfast, lunch and dinner. So much so that the previous owner had supplied me a bottle of oil with the car. 

But that was pretty common for the S63 engine. Many owners experience this, though it is not universal. 

My F20 M140i doesn't even sip oil.

But that's a known characteristic for a healthy B58 engine. 

The key is whether your behaviour is new and unexpected. If it is, I would be concerned. Do bring it in. 

By the way, Mini is also BMW hor. I just don't know which engine etc. Need @inlinesix to enlighten me. 😂

according to wiki, mine should be the B48A20T1 engine at 306bhp tune.

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225 kW version[edit]

This engine features a reinforced crankshaft with larger main bearings and new pistons with a lower 9.5:1 compression ratio. This allows the engine to take more boost pressure from a larger turbocharger, which blows compressed air through a reworked intake tract.[12] Revealed in May 2019, this engine is shared with the new MINI Countryman JCW, Clubman JCW[13] and JCW GP models.[14] The engine output increased by 55 kW (74 hp) to 225 kW (302 hp) and torque increased to 450 N⋅m (332 ft⋅lb).

2019–present F40 M135i xDrive

2019–present F44 M235i xDrive Gran Coupé

2019–present F39 X2 M35i xDrive

2019–present F54 Clubman JCW

2019–present F60 Countryman JCW

2020–present F56 MINI John Cooper Works GP

 

 

[serenade]

My short stint with an RX8 told me that rotaries drink engine oil. 

[Mkl22]

7 minutes ago, serenade said:

My short stint with an RX8 told me that rotaries drink engine oil. 

I think rx8 drinks less oil than some bmw engines. Had one too! 

[Ct3833]

1 hour ago, Turboflat4 said:

My F10 M5 used to eat engine oil for breakfast, lunch and dinner. So much so that the previous owner had supplied me a bottle of oil with the car. 

But that was pretty common for the S63 engine. Many owners experience this, though it is not universal. 

My F20 M140i doesn't even sip oil.

But that's a known characteristic for a healthy B58 engine. 

The key is whether your behaviour is new and unexpected. If it is, I would be concerned. Do bring it in. 

By the way, Mini is also BMW hor. I just don't know which engine etc. Need @inlinesix to enlighten me. 😂

Interesting, your ex mac so high compression ratio,  how many litter engine oil per travel ? 😀😀

[Ct3833]

Maybe use higher viscosity oil would help ? @inlinesixhas a mini too ? Can share experience. 

[1fast1]

36 minutes ago, Ct3833 said:

Interesting, your ex mac so high compression ratio,  how many litter engine oil per travel ? 😀😀

McLaren never ate oil.

[inlinesix]

Rather consumes oil, it could be vapourise oil.

This is especially for car with daily short mileage 

[Rickster]

@Vratenza Looks like it's the higher powered engines that eats engine oil due to design. I think it's the same for Audi as well.

[Inlinefour]

4 hours ago, mersaylee said:

Why pay for your own EO when it's still under warranty? I'd go bang some table and drive out with free top up at stearlership...😁

oil leak from engine or engine eat oil is not wear and tear...i will tear if they tell me otherwise 😂

Buddha Palm also no use cos AD said 3-5k is normal to have 1L EO top-up 🙊🙉🙈 

 

 

[Mkl22]

1 hour ago, Rickster said:

@Vratenza Looks like it's the higher powered engines that eats engine oil due to design. I think it's the same for Audi as well.

German engine burn oil by design. In my 1977 Mercedes w123 owners manual it said it’s ok to burn 1L every 2k km if I’m still remember correctly. 

[ER-3682]

9,000Km used 1 Litre of Oil,AD will said ''Normal''...within Factory's Specs.

[Watwheels]

Whatever excessive engine oil consumption shouldnt be normal. If it is not oil leak from the turbocharger and issue with the wrong type of piston ring used then that could be one other possibility.

A lot of cars now have this issue of the PCV system built into the engine valve cover. Once the diaphragm is stuck open you will have this excess oil consumption. Or one of the hoses of PCV system has a vacuum leak you will also have this issue.

Since it is under warranty quickly get it resolved. You can always Google to check for more info.

[t0y0ta]

15 hours ago, Vratenza said:

Today morning once i started driving my car for a bit, got a low engine oil level warning from my car. 

It was only 9k from my last service with the AD in Feb 2022. My car is only 1.5yrs old and fortunately still under warranty....will monitor the situation after topping this oil up. 

So went to Shell petrol station and bought a 1L bottle 0w40 fully syn oil. 

Park the car on a flat surface, stop the engine, Open the bonnet and identify where the 710 cap is...    Pardon my dusty engine bay.

Using a rag,  open the 710 cap in anticlockwise direction (warning,  it will be hot and may have hot air/steam rushing out). Pour in the whole 1L bottle of the oil. 

Recap the 710 in clockwise twist. 

Close the bonnet. 

Get back into your car and recheck the oil level. 

Done.

Keeping finger cross it is nothing major.

But from the infotainment system instructions,  seem like this event is pretty much run of the mill and can be easily DIYed.  It did not even suggest sending back to the AD for further check. So I am interpreting it as something very common place for BMW twinpower engines? 

been watching a lot of YT videos on mechanics repairing and explaining.

For conti, the common reasons are oil leaks from valve cover or other engine seals, or more commonly, oil getting through the oil control rings and getting burnt off into the combustion chamber. For 2nd reason, no real way to repair except replacement cylinder w/ new rings and potentially engine block (if cylinder wall serious wear). It will just get worse and worse over time. 

Some suggested very frequent oil change to keep thickened oil from accumulating at the oil control ring drainage holes in the cyliner.

condolences....

Edited August 23, 2022 by t0y0ta

[Rickster]

10 hours ago, Mkl22 said:

German engine burn oil by design. In my 1977 Mercedes w123 owners manual it said it’s ok to burn 1L every 2k km if I’m still remember correctly. 

I think i saw something like that range for Audi also. They might as well sell their cars as engine oil maintenance free since every 12-15K KM, you'll get a full cycle of fresh oil in already.🤣

[mersaylee]

Some wowo VEA engines from 2013-16 have EO leak due to the poor piston ring ...they addressed it after a class act by introducing a new type of piston ring...

It's not exactly a design flaw but due to a part used on the engine...definitely not some wear and tear claims...

[inlinesix]

2 hours ago, Watwheels said:

Whatever excessive engine oil consumption shouldnt be normal. If it is not oil leak from the turbocharger and issue with the wrong type of piston ring used then that could be one other possibility.

A lot of cars now have this issue of the PCV system built into the engine valve cover. Once the diaphragm is stuck open you will have this excess oil consumption. Or one of the hoses of PCV system has a vacuum leak you will also have this issue.

Since it is under warranty quickly get it resolved. You can always Google to check for more info.

 

2 hours ago, t0y0ta said:

been watching a lot of YT videos on mechanics repairing and explaining.

For conti, the common reasons are oil leaks from valve cover or other engine seals, or more commonly, oil getting through the oil control rings and getting burnt off into the combustion chamber. For 2nd reason, no real way to repair except replacement cylinder w/ new rings and potentially engine block (if cylinder wall serious wear). It will just get worse and worse over time. 

Some suggested very frequent oil change to keep thickened oil from accumulating at the oil control ring drainage holes in the cyliner.

condolences....

Oil consumption has been happening since the days of NA engine.

This is especially so in Singapore.

A lot of times, it happens to cars with short daily mileage like 20 - 30km.

[Volvobrick]

3 hours ago, mersaylee said:

Some wowo VEA engines from 2013-16 have EO leak due to the poor piston ring ...they addressed it after a class act by introducing a new type of piston ring...

It's not exactly a design flaw but due to a part used on the engine...definitely not some wear and tear claims...

That era should be Ford engines.... Enough said!