ER-3682 Twincharged October 19, 2024 Share October 19, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 7:35 PM, Mockngbrd said: Mitsubishi now as good as dead liao Agreed..only in Singapore,because of the Strict Emission Standard,Factory does not want to make a Model for a Small Market like us. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 19, 2024 Share October 19, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 7:35 PM, Mockngbrd said: Mitsubishi now as good as dead liao On 10/19/2024 at 7:40 PM, ER-3682 said: Agreed..only in Singapore,because of the Strict Emission Standard,Factory does not want to make a Model for a Small Market like us. In advance Economy. In 3rd world, Mit has Triton, Pajero Sport and expander. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator October 19, 2024 Author Share October 19, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 6:55 AM, Mockngbrd said: It's still hachiroku I am curious, how can one differentiate Hachiroku from Hachigo without opening up the bonnet, given that any AE85 can be transformed into AE86 aesthetically? On 10/19/2024 at 7:40 PM, ER-3682 said: Agreed..only in Singapore,because of the Strict Emission Standard,Factory does not want to make a Model for a Small Market like us. Not just in Singapore. Evo / Lancer, VR4 / Galant, FTO, GTO, Eclipse, etc. are long gone in Mitsubishi lineup. In Japan, the are left with a few SUVs (no Pajero though), a MPV (in 2 variants) and a couple of Kei cars (mostly badge engineered Nissan), almost like Perodua of Malaysia. https://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 19, 2024 Share October 19, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 9:15 PM, Carbon82 said: Not just in Singapore. Evo / Lancer, VR4 / Galant, FTO, GTO, Eclipse, etc. are long gone in Mitsubishi lineup. In Japan, the are left with a few SUVs (no Pajero though), a MPV (in 2 variants) and a couple of Kei cars (mostly badge engineered Nissan), almost like Perodua of Malaysia. https://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/ Honda is moving towards that direction if US mkt is gone. Mit at least still sell loads of Triton. Honda doesn’t have pickup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
107fan 5th Gear October 19, 2024 Share October 19, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 12:08 AM, Carbon82 said: This is not the AE86 many are familiar with. During that era, many Japanese firms like to market the same product (with minor cosmetics tweak) using different names. I used to work in the R&D department for a Japanese chemical manufacturer, and the formula I developed was sold in Japan, Korea, Australia & Singapore under 3 different product name / code. OK back to Toyota, the one you posted should be the Corolla Levin GT (2 door) which was also marketed as Sprinter Trueno (2 door) with a popping headlight. The 3 door variant (liftback) was marketed as Corolla Levin 3 Door and Sprinter Trueno. If that is not confusing enough, Toyota also name the model as Corolla Sport Coupe / Corolla GT (2 door) and Corolla Liftback Coupé (3 door) when selling them in different countries / region. OK, end of lesson. Time to sleep... S-Class rim buay pai liao, some has E-Class rim even. The drive is quite engaging and the MR setup (mid-rear engine + rear wheel drive) make the car feel more spacious than the other Kei car, BUT the brake is horrible + terrible. I literally have to stand on the brake to bring the car to stationary (from <60 Km/h) during a test drive (new car), and thereafter scrap my plan to get it for my wife. Great read as always. That's my "issue" with Japanese marques. They have way too many variations, sometimes meaningless. This creates so many artificial levels of markets, or at least they attempt to, and makes it more confusing for consumers to compare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
107fan 5th Gear October 19, 2024 Share October 19, 2024 However, one exception I think is Mazda. They keep their models simple and the current models have effectively replaced the previous models, instead of adding on another layers. But also because Mazda don't have so many models in the first place, unlike Toyota. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 19, 2024 Share October 19, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 10:34 PM, 107fan said: Great read as always. That's my "issue" with Japanese marques. They have way too many variations, sometimes meaningless. This creates so many artificial levels of markets, or at least they attempt to, and makes it more confusing for consumers to compare. On 10/19/2024 at 10:35 PM, 107fan said: However, one exception I think is Mazda. They keep their models simple and the current models have effectively replaced the previous models, instead of adding on another layers. But also because Mazda don't have so many models in the first place, unlike Toyota. Toyota confusing? Wait till you include all the models in different market. Mazda is a struggling small company Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
107fan 5th Gear October 19, 2024 Share October 19, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 10:40 PM, inlinesix said: Toyota confusing? Wait till you include all the models in different market. Mazda is a struggling small company I am still struggling to understand its older models. All the Celsior, Cressida, Allion, Corona...blah blah. Lately been spotting some Honda Grace and suddenly I wonder how different is it from Honda City? Can't be arsed to find out anyway... Yes and also in Chinese and Indian market they have other models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 10:35 PM, 107fan said: However, one exception I think is Mazda. They keep their models simple and the current models have effectively replaced the previous models, instead of adding on another layers. But also because Mazda don't have so many models in the first place, unlike Toyota. Agree.. that’s why the losing money model like Mazda 6 has been discontinued 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 8:20 AM, ER-3682 said: Missed the 90''s to 2000 Mitsubishi,the best time of the company,where they sponsored Jackie Chan Movies,the Galant V6,Mivec V6,VR4,FTO & the all best GTO. Lancer Evo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 7:40 PM, ER-3682 said: Agreed..only in Singapore,because of the Strict Emission Standard,Factory does not want to make a Model for a Small Market like us. Nah, in Japan also. All crap suv. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 (edited) OMG ….. this guy had sequin like rhine stones ( small diamonds )paneled all over and even the rims this so called small diamonds were coated …. Yeeks … really freak car …. Must be the last surviving Chrysler Edited October 20, 2024 by BanCoe 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 On 10/18/2024 at 12:19 PM, Gnahp said: no need to CSI 😁 can tell from the quarter glass this one impossible to taobao I told my wife... quarter glass open together with the door - fake quarter glass stays on the body - real Yup like the Passat b5 vs the skoda that was used as a taxi 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGCM928 3rd Gear October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 With the rising popularity of EVs driven by stricter emissions standard, which favor Chinese auto makers, most Japanese car makers (except Toyota) have been trimming their product lineup, both in domestic and international market. For the matter of fact, if not for the strong demand for kei car in Japan, due to tax break, many of these car makers would be struggling to survive, let alone coming up with enticing models. The Japan FTW era is over, like it or not. Even the Korean are doing better in the last decade. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 5:15 PM, BanCoe said: OMG ….. this guy had sequin like rhine stones ( small diamonds )paneled all over and even the rims this so called small diamonds were coated …. Yeeks … really freak car …. Must be the last surviving Chrysler But the taxi ride on the road was quite nice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 6:53 PM, SGCM928 said: With the rising popularity of EVs driven by stricter emissions standard, which favor Chinese auto makers, most Japanese car makers (except Toyota) have been trimming their product lineup, both in domestic and international market. For the matter of fact, if not for the strong demand for kei car in Japan, due to tax break, many of these car makers would be struggling to survive, let alone coming up with enticing models. The Japan FTW era is over, like it or not. Even the Korean are doing better in the last decade. Don't talk about ICE or EV, the Japanese car design for the past decade was just too conservative. The Korea design at least look much better on most of their model. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 9:23 PM, Tohto said: But the taxi ride on the road was quite nice. Because it is Based on Mercedes Benz W124/210 Chassis & Suspension. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic October 20, 2024 Share October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 5:15 PM, BanCoe said: OMG ….. this guy had sequin like rhine stones ( small diamonds )paneled all over and even the rims this so called small diamonds were coated …. Yeeks … really freak car …. Must be the last surviving Chrysler American Chrysler trash….. ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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