Planned liberation of Taiwan in the making…..

[Datsun366]

 

[Datsun366]

Going full on Republican on those hippies.

 

[steveluv]

[Victor68]

8 hours ago, Sosaria said:

True and pity those businessmen. Farmers too. Some of their agricultural products are now banned from PRC. Massive losses purely due to political show.

Will USA being their good supportive friend now buy over their agricultural products? US agricultural sector is very protectionist, will never allow such a thing to happen.

So it's just talk only. I'll believe it when I see US make up for Taiwan economic losses. As far as I can see they are only interested in pushing and selling weapons. Taiwan is being made use of just like Ukraine. 

ASEAN should never follow EC footsteps. Put aside political issues, take stocks of who are the losers in Ukraine war and who IS the winner. Why there is this prolonged war?

[Kb27]

Taiwan tycoon pledges $100m to defend island from ‘evil’ China

A Taiwanese microchip tycoon has pledged $100m (£82m) towards his country’s defences and urged citizens to stand up to the “evil” Chinese Communist Party.

In a spirited press conference, Robert Tsao said he was donating the money to Taiwan’s defence department to help safeguard “freedom, democracy, and human rights”.

The 75-year-old urged people to “stand up and fight” rather than give way to “unification with a gang of outlaws”.

His comments came hours after China sent ballistic missiles streaking over the Taiwanese mainland, including the capital Taipea, while fighter jets buzzed the island’s defences.

Beijing’s “unprecedented” show of force, which also includes four days of military exercises ending on Sunday, is meant as a punishment after Taiwan hosted a visit from Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the US House of Representatives, earlier this week.

Mr Tsao said the displays of military might showed why Taiwanese voters should not support parties that backed unification with China in upcoming local elections.

He is the founder of United Microelectronics Corporation (UMC), one of the world’s biggest chip makers and Taiwan’s second largest behind Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC).

Mr Tsao urged his fellow citizens to “see through the evil nature of the Chinese Communist Party”, according to Taiwan News.

He said: “The nature of the CCP is rogues acting against the rule of law, and this was manifested by their endless power struggles since 1927, the Cultural Revolution in the 1970s, and persecutions against various groups today.”

He also accused Beijing of “acting so despotically towards Taiwan”, adding: “Perhaps they think Taiwanese people all fear death and covet money?”

The tycoon is one of several business figures to speak up for the island in recent months.

His two sons hold Taiwan citizenship and he has previously revealed that one of them has completed military training while the other is to be trained in the summer.

He said they would both fight if China’s military launches an invasion.

Separately, the boss of TSMC said this week that no one could control the company’s chip foundries “by force”, suggesting that the facilities could be remotely switched off or rendered useless to any occupiers.

Mark Liu, chairman of TSMC, said: “If you take a military force or invasion, you will render the TSMC factory non-operable, because it is such a sophisticated manufacturing facility.”

Responding to recent Chinese military displays, Taiwanese president Tsai Ing-wen has insisted the island will firmly defend its sovereignty.

“We are calm and not impetuous, we are rational and not provocative, but we will also be firm and not shirk,” she said.

Mr Tsao claimed there was little need to speculate over whether China would ultimately use force to take Taiwan.

“They definitely will, but strength is not enough," he told journalists, arguing that the communist leadership in Beijing were "hooligans" who "only believe in violence”.

He pointed to the recent crackdown in Hong Kong and said China had betrayed its promise to allow the former British territory to retain some freedoms under the "One China, Two Systems" policy.

And he predicted that Taiwanese businesspeople would begin to abandon China after years of previous investment.

"I believe all of them will leave, one after the other, because China’s economic prosperity has already passed and domestic troubles will increase going forward, the economy will stop growing, problems with loans will continue to explode, plus locking down cities will cause the economy to decline. Taiwanese businesspeople should leave China’s cities.”

 

[macrosszero]

27 minutes ago, Victor68 said:

ASEAN should never follow EC footsteps. Put aside political issues, take stocks of who are the losers in Ukraine war and who IS the winner. Why there is this prolonged war?

You mean to say it should be a short war where Russia overruns Kyiv in three days and they are the winner?

They are still winning - in terms of territory, but less than they expected. And they are paying the price.

The Ukrainians are losing, but less than had there been no support from the West. If it is implied that the Western arms manufacturers are benefitting from the conflict - the rest of their economies, including energy, are suffering from the ongoing sanctions war as well.

Remember Neville Chamberlain’s “Peace in our time” declaration, the events leading up to, and following it.

You cannot pacify a country with expansionist ambitions by throwing countries under the bus in exchange for temporary peace, whether they’re doing it militarily or coercively.

[noobcarbuyer]

Just in case anyone wonders why five missiles launched by China fell into Japan’s exclusive economic zone.

Nothing to do with navigation errors or shitty missiles etc. It's just simple geopolitics. 

[Thaiyotakamli]

Taiwan short of fighter pilot

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3187820/who-will-fly-taiwans-fighter-jets-pilot-shortage-dire-pla-tests?utm_content=article&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3r9mOSQHhpZ4Kh1PIW9jIF4B-PVcwvWSwZNLjg2qtkYgX843Je-ow8ekU&fs=e&s=cl#Echobox=1659682599

[Victor68]

1 hour ago, Macrosszero said:

You mean to say it should be a short war where Russia overruns Kyiv in three days and they are the winner?

They are still winning - in terms of territory, but less than they expected. And they are paying the price.

The Ukrainians are losing, but less than had there been no support from the West. If it is implied that the Western arms manufacturers are benefitting from the conflict - the rest of their economies, including energy, are suffering from the ongoing sanctions war as well.

Remember Neville Chamberlain’s “Peace in our time” declaration, the events leading up to, and following it.

You cannot pacify a country with expansionist ambitions by throwing countries under the bus in exchange for temporary peace, whether they’re doing it militarily or coercively.

You seems to think those directly fighting the war have winners and losers. I have already started,put politic aside and reasons for war, what is the situation on site? Surely it is clear and need no further explanation. Conflicts are there for decades, why are certain elements stirring up now? Do we want the same situation in Asia?

[Vratenza]

1 hour ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Taiwan short of fighter pilot

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3187820/who-will-fly-taiwans-fighter-jets-pilot-shortage-dire-pla-tests?utm_content=article&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3r9mOSQHhpZ4Kh1PIW9jIF4B-PVcwvWSwZNLjg2qtkYgX843Je-ow8ekU&fs=e&s=cl#Echobox=1659682599

Taiwanese authorities say Ukraine’s success in denying air superiority to a much larger invading power has helped recruiting. In March, 70 per cent of 1,076 people polled by the Taiwan International Strategic Study Society said they were willing to go to war to defend their self-governed island from an attack by Beijing, up from 40 per cent in December.

Taiwan is basically a conscript army mixed with core professional/regular manpower just like Sg.

How much more can they recruit from these national service pool and the root of the problem is a pilot takes years to train and gain flight and fight experience. Can play aircraft simulation games does not mean can make it as pilot.

[Philipkee]

4 hours ago, Macrosszero said:

You mean to say it should be a short war where Russia overruns Kyiv in three days and they are the winner?

They are still winning - in terms of territory, but less than they expected. And they are paying the price.

The Ukrainians are losing, but less than had there been no support from the West. If it is implied that the Western arms manufacturers are benefitting from the conflict - the rest of their economies, including energy, are suffering from the ongoing sanctions war as well.

Remember Neville Chamberlain’s “Peace in our time” declaration, the events leading up to, and following it.

You cannot pacify a country with expansionist ambitions by throwing countries under the bus in exchange for temporary peace, whether they’re doing it militarily or coercively.

I think the issue is if US had not given Zelensky hopes that it could join NATO, Ukraine might have more actively pursued neutrality and avoided the war.

The question is, is this war unavoidable? Or whatever zelensky did to pacify Putin would only kick the can down the road?  Of cos, once the shooting starts, no choice.  All in.  But how did we get into that situation?

I think Neville chamberlain's peace in our time declaration has been abused many times.  While it is true aggression should never be appeased, it is not to say war should be encouraged cos diplomacy is a form of appeasement.

Edited August 6, 2022 by Philipkee

[Volvobrick]

2 hours ago, Vratenza said:

Taiwanese authorities say Ukraine’s success in denying air superiority to a much larger invading power has helped recruiting. In March, 70 per cent of 1,076 people polled by the Taiwan International Strategic Study Society said they were willing to go to war to defend their self-governed island from an attack by Beijing, up from 40 per cent in December.

Taiwan is basically a conscript army mixed with core professional/regular manpower just like Sg.

How much more can they recruit from these national service pool and the root of the problem is a pilot takes years to train and gain flight and fight experience. Can play aircraft simulation games does not mean can make it as pilot.

They should go big on drones. 1000 degree eyesight also no issues. 

[bsswan]

36 minutes ago, Philipkee said:

I think the issue is if US had not given Zelensky hopes that it could join NATO, Ukraine might have more actively pursued neutrality and avoided the war.

The question is, is this war unavoidable? Or whatever zelensky did to pacify Putin would only kick the can down the road?  Of cos, once the shooting starts, no choice.  All in.  But how did we get into that situation?

I think Neville chamberlain's peace in our time declaration has been abused many times.  While it is true aggression should never be appeased, it is not to say war should be encouraged cos diplomacy is a form of appeasement.

I think you are right, NATO's hint Ukraine could join, supported by US, led them down a bolder path.

Yes, otherwise the can would be kicked down the road, even probably far enough to out-live Putin.

[inlinesix]

40 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

They should go big on drones. 1000 degree eyesight also no issues. 

Got Drone that can fight J22/F35/SU57?

[Sturtles]

4 hours ago, noobcarbuyer said:

Just in case anyone wonders why five missiles launched by China fell into Japan’s exclusive economic zone.

Nothing to do with navigation errors or shitty missiles etc. It's just simple geopolitics. 

This area has not been properly defined between Tokyo/Beijing/Taipei, hence neither side recognised each other’s line of control.

Could be due to the unresolved Senkaku islands up north.

 

[Jamesc]

President Xi looked what my MIL cooked today.

Obviously she supports Pelosi.

Please send a missile she way.

[Jamesc]

If anyone wonders why five missiles launched by China fell into Japan’s exclusive economic zone.

Its not geopolitics lah.

Its physics.

 

[Beanoyip]

Am I the only person who doesn’t give a shit about this whole fiasco?