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Supersonic
On 10/16/2024 at 6:19 PM, macrosszero said:

FPDA runs till 18th October so……

Oh...still running ...

No wonder😅

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Hypersonic
On 10/17/2024 at 10:46 AM, macrosszero said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/16/politics/us-strikes-iran-backed-houthis-yemen/index.html
 

I wonder what the rationale is for using strategic stealth bombers to bomb non-state actors that aren’t likely to have extensive radar and anti-aircraft capabilities?

bunker busters are pretty heavy. So more economical to use a bomber platform.

 

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On 10/17/2024 at 10:46 AM, macrosszero said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/16/politics/us-strikes-iran-backed-houthis-yemen/index.html
 

I wonder what the rationale is for using strategic stealth bombers to bomb non-state actors that aren’t likely to have extensive radar and anti-aircraft capabilities?

Its a volatile area and anything can happen. It is better to be safe than sorry.

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Twincharged
On 10/17/2024 at 10:46 AM, macrosszero said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/16/politics/us-strikes-iran-backed-houthis-yemen/index.html
 

I wonder what the rationale is for using strategic stealth bombers to bomb non-state actors that aren’t likely to have extensive radar and anti-aircraft capabilities?

apart from operational abilities of B2s.

maybe also a bit of signalling to the iranians not to FAFO? And to isreal that they are not alone, US will help if they patient dont just go melt Tehran.

im sure behind the bigger scenes there are busy people trying to calm things down while preserving everyones macho faces. And the houthis are just seen as bloody nuisance useful idiots that dont know when to STFU. (Saudis sure celebrating...)

 

sometimes i think the US is also like the gate. what if they just say: "go ahead... do it, i dont care."

 

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Saw this in a Facebook post. Surprised that for this scenario, the Malaysian digital cam did a better job than the Aussie's own camou in their own turf.D04E6030-AB57-4840-A584-E481C9AC2BDF_1_201_a.thumb.jpeg.81daab10d84d32986bc9787e4139c2ba.jpeg

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Turbocharged
On 10/21/2024 at 8:24 PM, Tohto said:

Really Boleh decision... buying almost 30 yrs old fighter plane.  

Good for us. 

 

Purchase of Kuwaiti Hornet fighter jets - is it worth it?

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/malaysia-fa18-hornet-figher-jets-kuwait-air-force-4687511

Yeah sure.
 

At some point of time they need to realise their primary adversary isn’t Singapore and that there’s much more to lose in SCS than be obsessed on us. And they already have F/A-18D so they can manage a basic level of presence instead of sending trainers off East Malaysia against PLAAF first line long range fighters.
 

At least they would have more than the 8 Hornets that they already have

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Twincharged
On 10/18/2024 at 1:29 AM, Davidklt said:

Saw this in a Facebook post. Surprised that for this scenario, the Malaysian digital cam did a better job than the Aussie's own camou in their own turf.D04E6030-AB57-4840-A584-E481C9AC2BDF_1_201_a.thumb.jpeg.81daab10d84d32986bc9787e4139c2ba.jpeg

I think the aussies have other tropical set.

If go to the out back type environment,  the Malaysian one would stick out.

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On 10/21/2024 at 9:13 PM, macrosszero said:

Yeah sure.
 

At some point of time they need to realise their primary adversary isn’t Singapore and that there’s much more to lose in SCS than be obsessed on us. And they already have F/A-18D so they can manage a basic level of presence instead of sending trainers off East Malaysia against PLAAF first line long range fighters.
 

At least they would have more than the 8 Hornets that they already have

Maybe with some missing parts fir their Hornets.

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Twincharged
On 10/21/2024 at 9:13 PM, macrosszero said:

Yeah sure.
 

At some point of time they need to realise their primary adversary isn’t Singapore and that there’s much more to lose in SCS than be obsessed on us. And they already have F/A-18D so they can manage a basic level of presence instead of sending trainers off East Malaysia against PLAAF first line long range fighters.
 

At least they would have more than the 8 Hornets that they already have

 

https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/a-week-after-port-call-in-penang-kd-selangor-deployed-to-shadow-chinese-coast-guard-vessel/

I think even more than us, they need to stop being obsessed with the US (and general west) and middle east events. Start to realise their backyard is at stake. Otherwise Anwar will be the next Duterte.

Even Indonesia go for F15 & Rafael liao. The decision to go explore Su57 is definitely political posturing. 

https://turdef.com/article/malaysia-considers-acquiring-russian-su-57-jets

 

 

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On 10/21/2024 at 11:08 PM, Tohto said:

Maybe with some missing parts fir their Hornets.

Lust time was missing engine...now maybe ignition switch...sama sama...😁

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On 10/21/2024 at 8:24 PM, Tohto said:

Really Boleh decision... buying almost 30 yrs old fighter plane.  

Good for us. 

 

Purchase of Kuwaiti Hornet fighter jets - is it worth it?

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/malaysia-fa18-hornet-figher-jets-kuwait-air-force-4687511

The question is..how many are they buying ?

Actually, I think its a good move for them. It allows them to augment their aircraft numbers on a familiar and still capable platform, at a fraction of the cost. The Kuwait Air Force has the Super Hornets on order, so they might just let go of the older ones for a nominal costing.

The previous Hornets were bought without the source codes for attack capabilities. They only realise this after the purchase.

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Hypersonic
On 10/21/2024 at 8:24 PM, Tohto said:

Really Boleh decision... buying almost 30 yrs old fighter plane.  

Good for us. 

 

Purchase of Kuwaiti Hornet fighter jets - is it worth it?

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/malaysia-fa18-hornet-figher-jets-kuwait-air-force-4687511

The cost of 5th gen fighters is exorbitant lah. There's only 1 supplier realistically which is USA. A few F35s already cost us 1+ billion?
Russia can't even supply their own air force. Buy what SU-57? 
And the potential adversary is china. 

Even Europe doesn't have it's own fighter program anymore. Other then the ageing 4th Gen eurofighter, mirages and the swedish plane. 

 

 

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On 10/22/2024 at 1:15 PM, Davidklt said:

The previous Hornets were bought without the source codes for attack capabilities. They only realise this after the purchase.

Still need US approval before Kuwait can go USfightermart resale 🤣.  If last time cannot for MAF,  now maybe also cannot unless things have changed. 

No one's knows how true what Mahathir said was though. 

 

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On 10/22/2024 at 1:25 PM, Playtime said:

Still need US approval before they go USfightermart resale 🤣.  If last time cannot,  now maybe also cannot unless things have changed. 

No one's knows how true what Mahathir said was though. 

 

geo-politics have changed. Strong china now, almost 100% will get approved. 

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