Instead of four-day work weeks, maybe we should be talking about 10-month work years

[Windwaver]

  On 5/19/2022 at 1:40 AM, 13177 said:

Good leader which can prioritises importance of tasks as well can manage well and lead difficult to find. I have worked for few companies and i see many of those managers, GM and directors, i always wonder why and how they can reached that level? 😅 Some really cmi and yet sitting so high on top.

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Many of those take ideas from others and make it theirs and they usually sacrifice those working for them to please the top.

Too bad if you're an honest fellow  

[Windwaver]

https://sbr.com.sg/hr-education/news/working-hard-not-gen-zs-and-millennials-survey

'Working hard' is not for Gen Zs and Millennials: survey

More than six in 10 workers said sacrificing personal time will raise salaries.

The majority of employees believe that reducing personal time and work-life balance will help them achieve career and financial growth but the younger generation said they are not willing to do so, according to survey results from job search website, Indeed.

In its report, Indeed said Millennials and Generation Z employees said they are less willing to work hard to advance their roles. Whilst almost half or 46% of those aged 16 to 24 sacrifice time for better wage, almost 60% of the 45 to 54 age group do so.    

Nishita Lalvani, senior manager of Indeed Southeast Asia and India, said younger workers are less confident that working hard will give them benefits that previous generations had.

Over three in five young workers or those aged 16 to 24 years old said they are looking to shift to a job that has flexibility and only 17% of those between 45 and 54 years old are doing the same.

Conversely, Indeed’s study said 69% of Generation X and Boomers said it's more difficult to achieve professional and financial goals for younger workers and mistake the youth’s frustrations for fear of working hard.

 

[mersaylee]

Let them be...it's their future and their world eventually...we have worked hard and earned our keep...keep them to ourselves...let them yolo yoyo all they want...😁

[Scion]

well never say never...

20 years ago we also transited from 5.5 days working week to 5 days 

the Saturday mornings damn redundant tbh, wasted time to travel to and fro office just for that 3 hours work 😁

but need civil/public sector to take the lead first

[Scion]

  On 6/1/2022 at 3:07 AM, Windwaver said:

https://sbr.com.sg/hr-education/news/working-hard-not-gen-zs-and-millennials-survey

'Working hard' is not for Gen Zs and Millennials: survey

More than six in 10 workers said sacrificing personal time will raise salaries.

The majority of employees believe that reducing personal time and work-life balance will help them achieve career and financial growth but the younger generation said they are not willing to do so, according to survey results from job search website, Indeed.

In its report, Indeed said Millennials and Generation Z employees said they are less willing to work hard to advance their roles. Whilst almost half or 46% of those aged 16 to 24 sacrifice time for better wage, almost 60% of the 45 to 54 age group do so.    

Nishita Lalvani, senior manager of Indeed Southeast Asia and India, said younger workers are less confident that working hard will give them benefits that previous generations had.

Over three in five young workers or those aged 16 to 24 years old said they are looking to shift to a job that has flexibility and only 17% of those between 45 and 54 years old are doing the same.

Conversely, Indeed’s study said 69% of Generation X and Boomers said it's more difficult to achieve professional and financial goals for younger workers and mistake the youth’s frustrations for fear of working hard.

 

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many youngers ones want to "one step reach sky"... become rich in the shortest time

that's why many become property, insurance agents

others go into crypto 😁

look down on boomers for working hard

[Etnt]

  On 6/1/2022 at 5:59 AM, Scion said:

 

many youngers ones want to "one step reach sky"... become rich in the shortest time

that's why many become property, insurance agents

others go into crypto 😁

look down on boomers for working hard

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until things turn to shit, then go crying to their boomer parents for help.

got safety net, everything also easy, buay soon liao, always got someone there to save them.

[13177]

  On 6/1/2022 at 5:56 AM, Scion said:

well never say never...

20 years ago we also transited from 5.5 days working week to 5 days 

the Saturday mornings damn redundant tbh, wasted time to travel to and fro office just for that 3 hours work 😁

but need civil/public sector to take the lead first

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Taking away that 0.5 day maybe still easier than taking away 1 day. So from 5 days work week to 4 days work week, not that easy to happen. Maybe need to wait another decade or so?! I think all companies now if they can accept and implement WFH work arrangment to their current work week, already consider some breakthrough liao. 4 days work week still have to wait long long.

[13177]

  On 6/1/2022 at 5:59 AM, Scion said:

 

many youngers ones want to "one step reach sky"... become rich in the shortest time

that's why many become property, insurance agents

others go into crypto 😁

look down on boomers for working hard

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Thought now youngsters want to become social media Influencer? Since Influencer income seems like quite good?

Anyway, in this era seems like working hard like boomers doesnt give success or earn big money la, it is really all about working smart?!

[Scion]

  On 6/1/2022 at 6:17 AM, 13177 said:

Thought now youngsters want to become social media Influencer? Since Influencer income seems like quite good?

Anyway, in this era seems like working hard like boomers doesnt give success or earn big money la, it is really all about working smart?!

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true...

however, there are always smart and not so smart people around

the not so smart ones, at least if they work hard, they still have chance to succeed and live comfy

worst are those not so smart and yet lazy, and still everyday dream of riches and easy life 

[13177]

  On 6/1/2022 at 6:29 AM, Scion said:

true...

however, there are always smart and not so smart people around

the not so smart ones, at least if they work hard, they still have chance to succeed and live comfy

worst are those not so smart and yet lazy, and still everyday dream of riches and easy life 

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But seems like the young generation like got many smart ones le, thats why many of them want to "one step reach sky" become rich in the shortest time. Even those who didnt become influencer and work as a pay cheque employee, they still manage to earn quite a high salary by 40s?!

[Daniu82]

From 5 days to 4 days work week most likely we have to start work earlier and end work later. Would you want it? 

[Kxbc]

  On 6/1/2022 at 7:05 AM, Daniu82 said:

From 5 days to 4 days work week most likely we have to start work earlier and end work later. Would you want it? 

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it will become 8am to 7pm. For those who have to work OT daily, they prob won't complain. 

But a daily 7pm get off work will mean get home 8pm liao, which is likely to mean no family dinner, no time to exercise. Long run might not be good.

[13177]

  On 6/1/2022 at 7:29 AM, Kxbc said:

it will become 8am to 7pm. For those who have to work OT daily, they prob won't complain. 

But a daily 7pm get off work will mean get home 8pm liao, which is likely to mean no family dinner, no time to exercise. Long run might not be good.

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Definitely a no no for me to get off work late. Work life balance is important for me, and i am not a workaholic person, not like some people their life only have work work work. Maybe this is why my boss dont like me. Too nua liao. Lol.

[13177]

  On 6/1/2022 at 7:05 AM, Daniu82 said:

From 5 days to 4 days work week most likely we have to start work earlier and end work later. Would you want it? 

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Start early is how early le?  Start work at 8am already quite common for many people esp in industrial area. For CBD usually start work time should be 8.30am to 9pm. So if CBD change to start work at 8am, maybe still not so bad. But for those who already start work at 8am, if change to start work at 7am or 7.30am like a bit too early liao.

Edited June 1, 2022 by 13177

[Daniu82]

  On 6/1/2022 at 8:06 AM, 13177 said:

Start early is how early le?  Start work at 8am already quite common for many people esp in industrial area. For CBD usually start work time should be 8.30am to 9pm. So if CBD change to start work at 8am, maybe still not so bad. But for those who already start work at 8am, if change to start work at 7am or 7.30am like a bit too early liao.

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Agreed with this. I am working in Jurong industrial and starts work at 8am. If ask me to start even earlier and ends work at 7pm then I rather don't have 4 days work week. 

[Windwaver]

  On 6/1/2022 at 6:29 AM, Scion said:

true...

however, there are always smart and not so smart people around

the not so smart ones, at least if they work hard, they still have chance to succeed and live comfy

worst are those not so smart and yet lazy, and still everyday dream of riches and easy life 

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[13177]

  On 6/1/2022 at 8:35 AM, Daniu82 said:

Agreed with this. I am working in Jurong industrial and starts work at 8am. If ask me to start even earlier and ends work at 7pm then I rather don't have 4 days work week. 

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If you already start work at 8am, if change to start work much earlier, you would not end work at 7pm la, the most end work at 6pm. Cause i assume you end work now should be before 5.30pm. Usually start early end early.

[Mustank]

Lie straight 

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