Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine

[Jamesc]

 

[Ender]

So far, South Korea has made statement of about 1500 Special force from North Korea to Russia. And with AI, they refernce at some faces to known North Korean soldiers. USA is concerned and investigating if it's true.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/ukraines-zelenskyy-seeks-strong-reaction-north-korean-involvement-war-4690876?cid=internal_sharetool_androidphone_21102024_cna

Ukraine's Zelenskyy seeks strong reaction to North Korean involvement in war

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said on Sunday (Oct 20) he was seeking a strong reaction from countries who have acknowledged that North Korea is becoming more involved in Russia's more than 2-1/2-year-old war against Ukraine.

Speaking in his nightly video address, Zelenskyy said there was ample satellite and video evidence that North Korea was sending not only equipment to Russia, but also soldiers to be prepared for deployment.

"I am grateful to those leaders and representatives of states who do not close their eyes and speak frankly about this cooperation for the sake of a larger war," he said. "We expect a normal, honest, strong reaction from our partners on this."

Zelenskyy said greater North Korean involvement could only be harmful to everyone.

"Unfortunately, instability and threats can significantly increase after North Korea becomes trained for modern warfare," he said.

"If the world remains silent now and we have to engage soldiers from North Korea on the front line in the same way we have to defend ourselves from (Iranian) Shahed drones, this will certainly benefit no one in the world and only prolong the war."

North Korea's actions, he said, meant "in effect yet another country entering the war against Ukraine".

Zelenskyy last week accused North Korea of deploying officers alongside Russia and preparing to send thousands of troops to help Moscow's war effort. South Korea's spy agency said on Friday North Korea had dispatched 1,500 special forces troops to Russia's Far East for training.

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said on Saturday he could not confirm reports that North Korea has sent troops to Russia ahead of a possible deployment, but said such a move would be concerning, if true. NATO chief Mark Rutte said on Thursday there was no evidence of Pyongyang's presence at this stage.

The involvement of North Korean regular troops to support Russia's invasion of Ukraine would be a serious escalation of the war, France and Ukraine's foreign ministers said at a joint press conference in Kyiv on Saturday.

Edited October 21 by Ender

[Kb27]

 

reminds me of this Beatles song.

 

[Ender]

What will South Korea next course of actions be? 

 

 

[Jamesc]

Russian businessman falls from window in Moscow 

 

[Jamesc]

Get U B4 I Go

I die die must drive lane !

Here I come! 

 

[Ender]

 

 

[Ender]

Mainly for intelligence gathering to know more about N Korea.

 

[Kb27]

On 10/23/2024 at 2:26 AM, Ender said:

Mainly for intelligence gathering to know more about N Korea.

 

I heard SK may plan to setup defectors welcome camp. 

Just surrender to Ukrainian soldiers and you'll find yourself in SK. 😁

[Playtime]

On 10/22/2024 at 4:40 PM, Ender said:

What will South Korea next course of actions be? 

 

 

 

 

im guessing korean arms just found a new market. Not saying it ... esp arty shells... hasnt already found its way there via third parties etc. But now can openly send sales managers there.

maybe watch for isreal... they also damn pissed off with russia/china already. but i think if isreal want to give, she probably dont give a shit what others think.. 

[Playtime]

On 10/21/2024 at 10:15 PM, Jamesc said:

 

why the russian pilots all look dam chao lau... like truck drivers. no tom cruiseki look alikes.

maybe too much vodkha every night 🤔

[Jamesc]

On 10/23/2024 at 11:08 AM, Playtime said:

why the russian pilots all look dam chao lau... like truck drivers. no tom cruiseki look alikes.

maybe too much vodkha every night 🤔

All the good looking young ones killed already.

Now all the old retired pilots called in as replacements.

Front line same. No more young recruits now dig up all the grandpas as canon folder.

[Ender]

I read that Ukraine has rained vengeance on the Russia 155th for executing 9 Ukrainian prisoners. A reflection on what the IDF might have done if the international court were ineffective.

 

 

Out For Revenge, Ukrainian Marines In Tanks And APCs Just Attacked The Russian Marines Who Executed Nine Ukrainian Prisoners

A battle for vengeance raged in the hamlet of Zelenyi Shlyakh.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/10/22/out-for-revenge-ukrainian-marines-in-tanks-and-apcs-just-attacked-the-russian-marines-who-executed-nine-ukrainian-prisoners/

 

Edited October 23 by Ender

[Ender]

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Edited October 23 by Ender

[Ender]

Again it is Russia who is escalating. Ukraine should be allowed to respnd in same manner without being called war monger or escalating.

https://apnews.com/article/north-korea-russia-troops-ukraine-b664f8c1164e9ef859b7a618ffa92140

US confirms North Korea has sent 3,000 troops to Russia for training at multiple sites

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. defense secretary said Wednesday there is evidence that North Korea has sent troops to Russia, calling it a “very, very serious issue” if they join the war in Ukraine on Moscow’s side and warning of possible consequences.

South Korea’s spy chief, meanwhile, told lawmakers that 3,000 North Korean troops are now in Russia receiving training on drones and other equipment before being deployed to battlefields in Ukraine.

“We are seeing evidence that there are North Korean troops” that have gone to Russia, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters during a visit to Rome. “What exactly they’re doing — left to be seen.”

His comments were the first public U.S. confirmation of North Korea sending troops to Russia. He added: “If they’re co-belligerents, their intention is to participate in this war on Russia’s behalf, that is a very, very serious issue, and it will have impacts not only in Europe, it will also impact things in the Indo-Pacific.”

At the White House later Wednesday, national security spokesman John Kirby said the U.S. believes that at least 3,000 North Korean soldiers traveled by ship to Vladivostok, Russia’s largest Pacific port, in early to mid-October.

“These soldiers then traveled onward to multiple Russian military training sites in eastern Russia, where they are currently undergoing training,” Kirby said. “We do not yet know whether these soldiers will enter into combat alongside the Russian military, but this is certainly a highly concerning probability.”

Kirby said they could go to western Russian and then engage in combat against Ukraine’s forces.

Austin called the troop deployment a “next step” after the North has provided Russia with arms, and said Pyongyang could face consequences for aiding Russia directly. He did not provide details, saying analysts were assessing the situation.

South Korean intelligence first publicized reports that the Russian navy had taken 1,500 North Korean special warfare troops to Russia this month, while Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said his government had intelligence that 10,000 North Korea soldiers were being prepared to join the invading Russian forces.

Russia and North Korea have denied the troop movements. They have sharply boosted their cooperation in the past two years, and in June they signed a major defense deal requiring both countries to use all available means to provide immediate military assistance if either is attacked.

South Korean officials worry that Russia may reward North Korea by giving it sophisticated weapons technologies that could boost its nuclear and missile programs that target South Korea. South Korea said Tuesday it would consider supplying weapons to Ukraine in response to the reported troop dispatch.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte on Tuesday said North Korea sending troops to Ukraine would mark a “significant escalation,” and said he asked South Korea’s president to send experts to Brussels next week to brief the military alliance.

On Wednesday, South Korean National Intelligence Service Director Cho Tae-yong told lawmakers that another 1,500 North Korean troops have entered Russia, according to lawmaker Park Sunwon, who attended Cho’s closed-door briefing.

Cho told lawmakers his agency assessed that North Korea aims to deploy a total of 10,000 troops to Russia by December, Park told reporters.

Park cited Cho as saying the 3,000 North Korean soldiers sent to Russia have been split among multiple military bases. Cho told lawmakers that NIS believes they have yet to be deployed in battle, Park said.

Also speaking jointly about the briefing, lawmaker Lee Seong Kweun said the NIS found that the Russian military is teaching those North Korean soldiers how to use military equipment such as drones.

Lee cited the NIS chief as saying Russian instructors have high opinions of the morale and physical strength of the North Korean soldiers but think they will eventually suffer heavy causalities because they lack an understanding of modern warfare. Lee, citing Cho, said Russia is recruiting a large number of interpreters.

Lee said NIS has detected signs that North Korea is relocating family members of soldiers chosen to be sent to Russia to special sites to isolate them. The NIS chief told lawmakers that North Korea hasn’t disclosed its troop dispatch to its own people.

Ukraine’s Military Intelligence Directorate head, Kyrylo Budanov, told the online military news outlet The War Zone on Tuesday that North Korean troops were to arrive to Russia’s Kursk region on Wednesday to help Russian troops fighting off a Ukrainian incursion.

Last week, South Korea’s spy agency said North Korea had sent more than 13,000 containers of artillery, missiles and other conventional arms to Russia since August 2023 to replenish its dwindling weapons stockpiles.

Reports that the North is sending troops to Russia stoked security jitters in South Korea. It has shipped humanitarian and financial support to Ukraine, but it has so far avoided directly supplying arms in line with its policy of not supplying weapons to countries actively engaged in conflicts.

North Korea has 1.2 million troops, one of the largest standing armies in the world, but it hasn’t fought in large-scale conflicts since the 1950-53 Korean War. Experts question how much North Korean troops would help Russia, citing a shortage of battle experiences.

Experts say North Korea wants Russia’s economic support and its help to modernize the North’s outdated conventional weapons systems as well as its high-tech weapons technology transfers.

Following a meeting in London with his German counterpart Boris Pistorius, U.K. Defense Secretary John Healey said it looks “highly likely” that North Korean troops have been deployed to Russia. Pistorius said it underscores the challenges of dealing with international conflicts that are “getting more and more closer to each other and linked to each other.”

 

[Lala81]

On 10/24/2024 at 2:25 AM, Ender said:

Again it is Russia who is escalating. Ukraine should be allowed to respnd in same manner without being called war monger or escalating.

https://apnews.com/article/north-korea-russia-troops-ukraine-b664f8c1164e9ef859b7a618ffa92140

US confirms North Korea has sent 3,000 troops to Russia for training at multiple sites

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. defense secretary said Wednesday there is evidence that North Korea has sent troops to Russia, calling it a “very, very serious issue” if they join the war in Ukraine on Moscow’s side and warning of possible consequences.

South Korea’s spy chief, meanwhile, told lawmakers that 3,000 North Korean troops are now in Russia receiving training on drones and other equipment before being deployed to battlefields in Ukraine.

“We are seeing evidence that there are North Korean troops” that have gone to Russia, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters during a visit to Rome. “What exactly they’re doing — left to be seen.”

His comments were the first public U.S. confirmation of North Korea sending troops to Russia. He added: “If they’re co-belligerents, their intention is to participate in this war on Russia’s behalf, that is a very, very serious issue, and it will have impacts not only in Europe, it will also impact things in the Indo-Pacific.”

At the White House later Wednesday, national security spokesman John Kirby said the U.S. believes that at least 3,000 North Korean soldiers traveled by ship to Vladivostok, Russia’s largest Pacific port, in early to mid-October.

“These soldiers then traveled onward to multiple Russian military training sites in eastern Russia, where they are currently undergoing training,” Kirby said. “We do not yet know whether these soldiers will enter into combat alongside the Russian military, but this is certainly a highly concerning probability.”

Kirby said they could go to western Russian and then engage in combat against Ukraine’s forces.

Austin called the troop deployment a “next step” after the North has provided Russia with arms, and said Pyongyang could face consequences for aiding Russia directly. He did not provide details, saying analysts were assessing the situation.

South Korean intelligence first publicized reports that the Russian navy had taken 1,500 North Korean special warfare troops to Russia this month, while Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said his government had intelligence that 10,000 North Korea soldiers were being prepared to join the invading Russian forces.

Russia and North Korea have denied the troop movements. They have sharply boosted their cooperation in the past two years, and in June they signed a major defense deal requiring both countries to use all available means to provide immediate military assistance if either is attacked.

South Korean officials worry that Russia may reward North Korea by giving it sophisticated weapons technologies that could boost its nuclear and missile programs that target South Korea. South Korea said Tuesday it would consider supplying weapons to Ukraine in response to the reported troop dispatch.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte on Tuesday said North Korea sending troops to Ukraine would mark a “significant escalation,” and said he asked South Korea’s president to send experts to Brussels next week to brief the military alliance.

On Wednesday, South Korean National Intelligence Service Director Cho Tae-yong told lawmakers that another 1,500 North Korean troops have entered Russia, according to lawmaker Park Sunwon, who attended Cho’s closed-door briefing.

Cho told lawmakers his agency assessed that North Korea aims to deploy a total of 10,000 troops to Russia by December, Park told reporters.

Park cited Cho as saying the 3,000 North Korean soldiers sent to Russia have been split among multiple military bases. Cho told lawmakers that NIS believes they have yet to be deployed in battle, Park said.

Also speaking jointly about the briefing, lawmaker Lee Seong Kweun said the NIS found that the Russian military is teaching those North Korean soldiers how to use military equipment such as drones.

Lee cited the NIS chief as saying Russian instructors have high opinions of the morale and physical strength of the North Korean soldiers but think they will eventually suffer heavy causalities because they lack an understanding of modern warfare. Lee, citing Cho, said Russia is recruiting a large number of interpreters.

Lee said NIS has detected signs that North Korea is relocating family members of soldiers chosen to be sent to Russia to special sites to isolate them. The NIS chief told lawmakers that North Korea hasn’t disclosed its troop dispatch to its own people.

Ukraine’s Military Intelligence Directorate head, Kyrylo Budanov, told the online military news outlet The War Zone on Tuesday that North Korean troops were to arrive to Russia’s Kursk region on Wednesday to help Russian troops fighting off a Ukrainian incursion.

Last week, South Korea’s spy agency said North Korea had sent more than 13,000 containers of artillery, missiles and other conventional arms to Russia since August 2023 to replenish its dwindling weapons stockpiles.

Reports that the North is sending troops to Russia stoked security jitters in South Korea. It has shipped humanitarian and financial support to Ukraine, but it has so far avoided directly supplying arms in line with its policy of not supplying weapons to countries actively engaged in conflicts.

North Korea has 1.2 million troops, one of the largest standing armies in the world, but it hasn’t fought in large-scale conflicts since the 1950-53 Korean War. Experts question how much North Korean troops would help Russia, citing a shortage of battle experiences.

Experts say North Korea wants Russia’s economic support and its help to modernize the North’s outdated conventional weapons systems as well as its high-tech weapons technology transfers.

Following a meeting in London with his German counterpart Boris Pistorius, U.K. Defense Secretary John Healey said it looks “highly likely” that North Korean troops have been deployed to Russia. Pistorius said it underscores the challenges of dealing with international conflicts that are “getting more and more closer to each other and linked to each other.”

 

North Korea got famine issit. Send some unimportant people off to be cannon fodder to reduce rations.

 

[Ender]

On 10/24/2024 at 11:25 AM, Lala81 said:

North Korea got famine issit. Send some unimportant people off to be cannon fodder to reduce rations.

 

I read from the South Korea media, there is another group of 100 over special force from North Korea. Supposedly the elite ones.  Not those 3000 soldiers.

Ukraine intelligence says one item of exchange is Nuclear tech. 

[Lala81]

On 10/24/2024 at 11:48 AM, Ender said:

I read from the South Korea media, there is another group of 100 over special force from North Korea. Supposedly the elite ones.  Not those 3000 soldiers.

Ukraine intelligence says one item of exchange is Nuclear tech. 

The elite one wont be cannon fodder. The regular infantry will be cannon fodder lol.