Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine

[Ender]

Appeasing Putin is the reason why. Weakness provokes Putin (McCain said that). Has the Biden Administration just learnt that? coz they seems to be ignoring Putin's concern lately.

 

 

[Kb27]

German tanks are backed in Kursk. How ironic.

 

 

[Jamesc]

Russia fake videos of defending Kursk!

I bet Putin is fooled!

If he finds out that Gerasimov will be out the door.

I mean out the window! 

 

[Jamesc]

Russian news showing where the Russian reinforcement are coming from.

There coordinates has been entered into Himars!

This is the big sign!

And this is the roundabout they are at!

[Playtime]

On 8/10/2024 at 12:02 PM, Ct3833 said:

Trucks meh? i thought use  aircon private coaches 😄

It was funny when they started. Cos not enough drivers vocation. 

1 inf company typically need 4 small buses. Imagine say 630am must go out.

6am,  2 bus from Ah Seng Bus Co come..:" Ah sir I cannot wait cannot wait,  later going fetch factory worker,  MOVE OUT NOW!!!"

7am, 2 bus from Ah Lian Transport Co come... :" Sorry lah go complain lor, I must send students first. "

Evening RTU repeat with again different co.. kenna coach type big bus :"KNN OC you ask everyone clean up their boots and uniform! Limpeh later how to fetch people all muddy seats!!!"

🤣🤣🤣

 

 

[Jamesc]

Russia has proudly announced they have 

destroyed 25 Ukraine drones in Kursk.

Russia lost 1,000 men but now Ukraine have 25 less drones!

The Russian spokesman did not say if the drones

were suicide drones! 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Jamesc

[Jamesc]

Russia has announced that Ukraine SMO in Kursk

has been a completed failure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not one Russian family has announced even one toilet

missing!

 

[Ender]

Too early to say if that invading Russia would yield positive results. As of now, expect the advancement to slow down as more Russia reinforcement has arrived. Su34 are also used to bomb the Ukrainian troop and Ukraine has yet to use F16.  Since more russian force has arrive with Arty and FAB bombers, I feel Ukraine will need air support from now on to maintain advancement.

 

https://12ft.io/https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/invading-russia-was-zelenskys-most-surprising-and-risky-decision-yet-6nbnfr7sn

Invading Russia is Zelensky’s riskiest decision yet

 

Crack troops are being used for a risky counterpunch to Putin that astonished the world — and the fingerprints of Ukraine’s president are all over it

 

Ukraine’s incursion into Russian territory in the Kursk region last week took Moscow by surprise. It took Kyiv’s western supporters, even in Washington, by surprise as well.

When it began on Tuesday it looked like another display of noisy military bravado by one of the anti-Putin militia groups. By Thursday it was clear that Kyiv itself was trying to land a strategic counterpunch against Russia.

President Zelensky’s personal fingerprints are all over it. It’s been an open secret in Kyiv for many months that the president was pressing his military chiefs to launch a summer offensive.

Given Ukraine’s manpower and resources problems, they were hesitant. But Zelensky is desperate to reverse the narrative that Ukraine is losing its war. Successes in the Black Sea and against Russian forces in Crimea don’t get the world’s attention when his country’s army is being pushed slowly but relentlessly out of more territory in eastern Ukraine.

President Zelensky is desperate to reverse the narrative that Ukraine is losing the war.

It’s certainly bold: Moscow hasn’t seen a metre of its own territory invaded by anybody since 1941. The images coming out of Kursk will shock the Russian public and the effect may be difficult for the Kremlin to manage.

It will also make some western leaders queasy as items of Nato ground equipment are now being used inside Russia — another threshold crossed. If Ukrainian leaders had asked for western permission in advance they wouldn’t have got it, so they went ahead anyway.

And the plan is risky, as Moscow has no choice but to do whatever it will take to snuff out this incursion.

Only the 1950 US Inchon landings during the Korean War offer a counterpunch strategy that was quite as risky. But whereas Inchon was designed to turn a whole offensive around — getting in behind the enemy with more than a corps of US and allied forces — this Kursk counterpunch can achieve only
limited objectives.

In addition to making its political point to Moscow and the rest of the world, Ukrainian chiefs will be hoping this attack has the effect of drawing high-quality Russian forces away from other fronts. That includes Russia’s “second invasion” against Ukraine in Vovchansk, 90 miles to the southeast, but more importantly from its ongoing Donbas offensive around the critical Chasiv Yar and on the road to Pokrovsk, where the Ukrainian army is clearly struggling.

At a maximum, Ukrainian forces around Kursk might hope to extend their reach as far as occupying the nuclear power plant — a quid pro quo for Russia’s destructive occupation of Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia plant in 2022. But all these objectives will depend on how long, and in what way, the Ukrainians hold on inside the Kursk pocket.

The indications so far are that Kyiv is serious. This is no light infantry raid — go in, go hard, go home, within 72 hours. Forces seen operating inside the pocket indicate that significant elements of Ukraine’s 22nd and 88th mechanised brigades and its 80th Air Assault Brigade are on the Russian side of the border along with units from other brigades. These are experienced forces which probably amount to between 6,000 and 10,000 troops.

Their operation was preceded by an impressive electronic warfare assault that blinded Russian border defences and blunted their drone power. The equipment confirmed to be operating in this incursion includes US Stryker armoured fighting vehicles and German Marder armoured infantry vehicles. American M2 Bradleys — the stars of the war this year — are plausibly claimed by the Kremlin to be involved. Even more eye-catching, they have entered Russian territory with a significant number of engineering vehicles, with mine-clearance equipment, Himars multiple rocket launchers, long-range mortars and ground-based air defence units.

The Ukrainian army evidently intends to stand and fight in the pocket it has created and may yet be reinforced.

Russia’s northern group along the border would normally amount to around 50,000 men, but most of them have been concentrated towards Belgorod to feed into Russia’s stalled Vovchansk offensive.

They have been slow in redeploying westwards towards Kursk and have reportedly run into Ukrainian minefields blocking their route. By Saturday, the fighting on the eastern side of the pocket was fierce and the Russian air force was flying intense — and very hazardous — combat air support sorties around and within it. Still enjoying the benefit of surprise, bordering on astonishment, Ukrainian forces seem to have won the opening rounds of this battle.

But sheer numbers will eventually tell in the fighting to come, and the continued existence of this incursion inside Russian territory will be simply intolerable to President Putin.

Kyiv is evidently prepared to risk valuable soldiers and equipment to make some sort of stand here. Zelensky’s critics will argue that this is a misuse both of the lives of the troops and the heavy metal that Ukraine desperately needs further south in the Donbas.

Unlike the Inchon landings in Korea, this counterpunch cannot turn the war around. Instead, its military success will be measured by how dearly the Ukrainians can make Moscow pay for the eventual recovery of their territory. If the struggle is long and the price is high, Ukrainian forces may feel a disproportionate benefit elsewhere.

Its political success will depend on how it plays on Moscow’s psychology; whether it creates some genuine doubt within Putin’s circle that the war really is worth its ever-increasing cost. The Kremlin’s initial reaction is to pass this attack off as only a “provocation”; a “terrorist attack”. But even to Russia’s state-controlled media, this looks like straightforward war.

Political leaders, often with no military experience, have to take big strategic decisions and military chiefs do their best to make them work. When Zelensky, the comedian turned politician, appeared on a Kyiv street just hours into the 2022 Russian invasion to declare that he was going nowhere and Ukraine would fight, he took the biggest strategic decision of his life. This week he took the second biggest — and probably the more risky.

Michael Clarke is visiting professor in defence studies at King’s College London and distinguished fellow at the Royal United Services Institute

GENYA SAVILOV/AFP/GETTY IMAGES

 

Zelensky is trying to find a way to halt or reverse that dynamic. This strategic military choice is very much his style: bold and risky.

 

[Ct3833]

On 8/11/2024 at 1:16 PM, Jamesc said:

Russia has announced that Ukraine SMO in Kursk

has been a completed failure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not one Russian family has announced even one toilet

missing!

 

Ukraine has done their calculation, it is why they are producing millions of drones, imagine each drone in exchange for 1 russian soldier's life ， go imagine the number of soliders the drones can take on 😃

[Jamesc]

On 8/11/2024 at 4:21 PM, Ct3833 said:

Ukraine has done their calculation, it is why they are producing millions of drones, imagine each drone in exchange for 1 russian soldier's life ， go imagine the number of soliders the drones can take on 😃

Russia doing better than Ukraine.

Poor Ukraine lost 25 drones already

and Russian only lost 1,000 men.

Now no need to pay the men but Ukraine lost

25 x US$500.

Ukraine will go bankrupt at this rate!

[Jamesc]

Russia is winning! 

 

[Jamesc]

Russia has run out of tanks and so now using motorcycles.

As we have seen those pesky Ukrainian drones keep blowing up the motorcycles.

They should confiscate these and send them to Russia! 

 

[Jamesc]

Ukraine loses 3 drones while Russia only loses 1 tank.

I don't think Ukraine can afford these kind of losses for much longer! 

 

[Atonchia]

On 8/10/2024 at 9:12 AM, Playtime said:

Saf still uses trucks heavily for transport. Hope planners are watching this 😬 

Must have air superiority 

 

On 8/10/2024 at 2:59 AM, Ender said:

 

Possibly up to 770 casualties in this convoy attack. And it's was multiple missiles strike. Guess really could be Himar as mentioned by the pro Russians channels. 

Some trucks were burnt. 

Some looked intact but still have dead soldiers, even the tents looked without shrapnel holes 

So how these soldiers were killed?

By the bomb shock wave?

[Sosaria]

On 8/11/2024 at 4:08 PM, yishunite said:

Dunno if I saw it here or somewhere else... ppl making meme about T34 defending Kursk in 1943 // T34 defending Kursk in 2024 🤣

But don't forget it's also ironic that Kursk in '43 was Hitler's last great gamble on the eastern front, and it failed. 

[Volvobrick]

On 8/11/2024 at 5:38 PM, Atonchia said:

Must have air superiority 

 

Some trucks were burnt. 

Some looked intact but still have dead soldiers, even the tents looked without shrapnel holes 

So how these soldiers were killed?

By the bomb shock wave?

Tiny Tungsten ball bearings. Small holes in the canvas not visible in video I guess. 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Volvobrick

[Sosaria]

On 8/11/2024 at 5:58 PM, Volvobrick said:

Tiny Tungsten ball bearings. Small holes in the canvas not visible in video I guess. 

Saw a video of one of these cluster munition detonation on a street, just a puff of light smoke and the leaves of the trees stirred like in a breeze probably from the ball bearings, but nothing spectacular like explosion or flash or objects on fire.

[Playtime]

On 8/11/2024 at 5:38 PM, Atonchia said:

Must have air superiority 

 

Some trucks were burnt. 

Some looked intact but still have dead soldiers, even the tents looked without shrapnel holes 

So how these soldiers were killed?

By the bomb shock wave?

One clue is see veh tyres.

If the vehicles outside look ok, but tyres somehow all flat. Good chance air burst. The balls pass through the tyres.