Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine

[Ender]

Decisive 'words'.

 

Some said the Putin might have preferred Biden winning the election over Trump. 

 

 

[Jamesc]

China, India, Saudi, Hungary are supporters of Russia

On 6/5/2024 at 1:15 AM, Ender said:

 

Singapore sent representative to Ukraine's Peace Summit in Switzerland.  China, India, Saudi, China, Hungary not attending. 

 

 

 

[Jamesc]

After 2.5 years of war in Ukraine and USA giving permission for Ukraine to strike inside Russia

Putin and his men know they cannot win the war.

Putin blames US and Europe for supporting Ukraine and he correctly thinks

if the US and Europe did not support Ukraine he would have already won.

So the latest news from Russia is knowing they will lose and that is unacceptable

they will consider using nuclear weapons against Europe. 

Edited June 5, 2024 by Jamesc

[Ct3833]

On 6/5/2024 at 11:43 PM, Jamesc said:

After 2.5 years of war in Ukraine and USA giving permission for Ukraine to strike inside Russia

Putin and his men know they cannot win the war.

Putin blames US and Europe for supporting Ukraine and he correctly thinks

if the US and Europe did not support Ukraine he would have already won.

So the latest news from Russia is knowing they will lose and that is unacceptable

they will consider using nuclear weapons against Europe. 

Putin has no balls to say that ,  you dont flame ok.🤣

[Jamesc]

China is not a friend of Ukraine.

Singapore and Philippines are friends of Ukraine.

[Kb27]

On 6/5/2024 at 1:23 AM, Ender said:

Decisive 'words'.

 

Some said the Putin might have preferred Biden winning the election over Trump. 

 

 

there's no guarantee with russia. it's like making a promise with the devil.

when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons to russia, there's a promise of its security, but you know what happens.

russia only understand strength, NATO has to be so heavily armed that russia don't even think about it.

It starts with Ukraine. Give it all the best weapons with no restrictions on its use. Ukraine is the West buffer zone.

Soon NATO will be sending troops into Ukraine, possibly starting with France. Still scared of WW3 ? It only ends with russia pulling back from all of Ukraine. As long as putin is there, he will continue to send meat until it's finished. He won't dare to send a nuke, he knows the consequences.

[Jamesc]

On 6/5/2024 at 11:51 PM, Ct3833 said:

Putin has no balls to say that ,  you dont flame ok.🤣

Russia is once again waving around its nuclear weapons. Last week, Vladimir Putin warned NATO countries against allowing Ukraine to use western munitions to strike Russia.

The Russian leader warned of “serious consequences” and said that Ukraine’s allies should be aware of the “small territory” and “dense population” of many European countries.

Moscow has also taken actions recently to underline its threats, with Russian troops conducting nuclear drills near the border with Ukraine.

[Ender]

That's is why I am no expert in in politics and geo politics. I just read, react and report. How politician behave to me is alien to me. This Mike Johnson was mostly the man who terik the aids to Ukraine, causing many Ukranian lives and lands. NOw he has more balls than Biden, and want to do more for Ukraine.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 5, 2024 by Ender

[Ender]

This administration is a bunch of loud mouth who over promise and under delivers.. Chicken out when Ukraine does too much damages in Russia.

 

 

[inlinesix]

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/iPsMGYDqFRX4Bx13iwUwIw
普京回应“俄乌冲突何时结束”

“据央视新闻客户端消息，俄罗斯总统普京当地时间6月5日表示，俄罗斯也可以向世界其他地区提供远程武器，这些地区可以使用俄罗斯的武器对那些向乌克兰提供武器的国家发起敏感的打击。”
According to the CCTV News client, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on June 5 local time that Russia can also provide long-range weapons to other parts of the world, which can use Russian weapons to launch sensitive strikes against countries that provide weapons to Ukraine.

[Kb27]

On 6/6/2024 at 12:38 AM, Jamesc said:

Russia is once again waving around its nuclear weapons. Last week, Vladimir Putin warned NATO countries against allowing Ukraine to use western munitions to strike Russia.

The Russian leader warned of “serious consequences” and said that Ukraine’s allies should be aware of the “small territory” and “dense population” of many European countries.

Moscow has also taken actions recently to underline its threats, with Russian troops conducting nuclear drills near the border with Ukraine.

now putin has threatened to provide long range weapons to other countries for use to attack the West, besides the usual nuclear sabre rattling. 😁

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-ukraine-e192904652221b29efdc88d0af23114e

so which country wants to attack the West ?

[Kb27]

watch this, honest, down-to-earth American

 

 

[Jamesc]

Putin is in a hole.

If he stops digging he is dead.

[Ender]

Putin is the only one that is literally saying they will use nuke. But Russian propaganda are saying it is the west that is escalating nuclear war coz they are provoking Putin. Really what era liao, aggressor can still play victim by saying they force his hands. What the west did is to level the playing field for Ukriane when they allow Ukriane to strike inside Russia on legit targets. Yet Putin can play victim when he can't play dirty. Even then, right now Ukriane is still one hand tied when they can't respond to the khinzal cruised missile at Russia soil.

What the west needs is real decisive leadership with strong will. Sadly we don't see it the strongest nation in NATO. If any, Biden hesitancy benefits Putin in the last few months.

[Ct3833]

On 6/6/2024 at 12:01 PM, Kb27 said:

now putin has threatened to provide long range weapons to other countries for use to attack the West, besides the usual nuclear sabre rattling. 😁

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-ukraine-e192904652221b29efdc88d0af23114e

so which country wants to attack the West ?

See which country has the balls to fire them lor. The way i see it, Ukraine has no chooce but to keep fighting until they drive out russian, or until putin dies. If putin is allowed to take any additional piece of soil from Ukraine, there is no guarantee  that he will not repeat the same to Ukraine or any other neighbouring countries again.

Edited June 6, 2024 by Ct3833

[Sosaria]

On 6/6/2024 at 12:01 PM, Kb27 said:

now putin has threatened to provide long range weapons to other countries for use to attack the West, besides the usual nuclear sabre rattling. 😁

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-ukraine-e192904652221b29efdc88d0af23114e

so which country wants to attack the West ?

Russia itself is short of weapons at the rate the war is raging on, to the point it has to source from, of all countries, north korea, which supplies them with copies of soviet weapons  

 

[Voodooman]

So many experts here predicting the Russians won't use nukes when pushed to a corner.   My go to geopolitics professor however disagrees. 

Out of curiosity, I asked Meta AI and it gave me a pretty smart answer. Just sharing. 😃

Experts' views on the likelihood of Russia deploying nuclear weapons if attacked by NATO vary, but most agree that the possibility cannot be ruled out entirely. Some experts believe that Russia's military doctrine, which includes the concept of "escalate to de-escalate," suggests that they might use nuclear weapons to deter or respond to a conventional attack. Others argue that Russia's nuclear strategy is designed to avoid direct conflict with NATO, and that they would likely exhaust all other options before resorting to nuclear weapons.

Some estimates suggest:

- Low to moderate probability (20-40%): Russia might use nuclear weapons if they perceive an existential threat or if their military is severely depleted.
- Moderate to high probability (40-60%): Russia might use nuclear weapons if they face a significant conventional defeat or if NATO's actions are seen as a direct threat to Russia's sovereignty.

It's important to note that these estimates are based on various assumptions and that the actual likelihood of Russia deploying nuclear weapons is impossible to predict with certainty. The situation remains a concern, and diplomatic efforts to reduce tensions and prevent miscalculations are essential.

Edited June 6, 2024 by Voodooman

[Ender]

On 6/6/2024 at 8:33 PM, Voodooman said:

So many experts here predicting the Russians won't use nukes when pushed to a corner.   My go to geopolitics professor however disagrees. 

Out of curiosity, I asked Meta AI and it gave me a pretty smart answer. Just sharing. 😃

Experts' views on the likelihood of Russia deploying nuclear weapons if attacked by NATO vary, but most agree that the possibility cannot be ruled out entirely. Some experts believe that Russia's military doctrine, which includes the concept of "escalate to de-escalate," suggests that they might use nuclear weapons to deter or respond to a conventional attack. Others argue that Russia's nuclear strategy is designed to avoid direct conflict with NATO, and that they would likely exhaust all other options before resorting to nuclear weapons.

Some estimates suggest:

- Low to moderate probability (20-40%): Russia might use nuclear weapons if they perceive an existential threat or if their military is severely depleted.
- Moderate to high probability (40-60%): Russia might use nuclear weapons if they face a significant conventional defeat or if NATO's actions are seen as a direct threat to Russia's sovereignty.

It's important to note that these estimates are based on various assumptions and that the actual likelihood of Russia deploying nuclear weapons is impossible to predict with certainty. The situation remains a concern, and diplomatic efforts to reduce tensions and prevent miscalculations are essential.

Come to geopolitics, you and @Sturtles are the experts.  I was once deemed the Ah Q here, literally.